I hate bit torrent

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#1  Edited By Cataphract1014

I am using Utorrent to download the ff14 beta since their default patcher sucks shit.  A few minutes ago, my upload was at 2.5 MB/s, and my download was at 200 KB/s.  Seriously?
 
I hate that PC developers are switching to Torrents for updates and client downloads.  I know it saves them money and server space, but most people have no idea how to properly set one up to download faster.  As well as give other people faster speeds.   Steam doesn't use torrents and they seem to download just fine.  I've downloaded a game off of steam at 5.8 MB/s.  Empire: Total war downloaded in like 25 minutes, and it was 12 GB or something.
 
As I'm typing this my upload is jumping from 1 MB/s to 3 MB/s, while my download is hovering around 800 KB/s.
 
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#2  Edited By heghmohqib

I'd be stoked to get 200 KB/s down.  But that's just me.

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#3  Edited By Stealthcake92

My internet provided has throttled all my torrent downloads, so i'm screwed if all game dev's resort to Torrents.

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#4  Edited By Rockanomics

Just because it's new fangled technology doesn't make it a bad idea. I love it when new stuff is done by torrent because otherwise your all waiting in line at a file hosting site. With torrents the more popular something is the better, you've got 1000 people helping you out instead of 1000 people ahead of you in line. 
 
Now to be fair I'm a Steamoholic so I don't really deal with it much either way but if you have to do it the old fashion way I think torrents are a perfect solution.

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#5  Edited By Cataphract1014
@Rockanomics: 
 
I'm not saying they can't be good.  I've have torrents download at 3MB/s, but the problem is a lot of people have no idea how to set them up.  Or the developers client sucks.  Blizzard has used Torrents ever since WoW came out.  Their original downloader was TERRIBLE.  I'm talking an hour to download a 10MB patch.  If I was stuck using the updater for FF14, my download capped at like 4 KB/s.
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#6  Edited By tmthomsen

You can disable P2P in Blizzards downloader which may enhance your speed if you're having problems.

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#7  Edited By dystonym

Limit your upload speed. That should help. In utorrent just go to Options > Bandwidth and it should be there. I'd limit it to like 750-1000 kb/s.

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#8  Edited By RankRabbit

Last time I downloaded a torrent it took 3 days.

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#9  Edited By meteora

There's probably more leechers than seeders or some sort of seed fluctuation on their end. Because really, its the developer that's the only one that is seeding the files. So your upload will go naturally a little bit higher, but that's just my impression. 
 
I never get upload rates higher than a megabyte.

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#10  Edited By Vinchenzo

No, you don't hate bit torrent. You hate this specific torrent. God damn...

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#11  Edited By Vodun

Dude, if your upload is super high (don't know your up limit) then you need to cap it. That thing sucks your bandwidth like crazy and will kill your download.

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#12  Edited By Cataphract1014
@Vodun: 
 
Doesn't make a difference.  Upload and download are on separate paths.  One doesn't effect the other.  I capped the upload at 1 MB/s, and it kept the download at around 700.  I turned it up to unlimited, currently at 2.9 MB/s up, and the download went to 900 KB/s.
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#13  Edited By KaosAngel

For all of Blizzard's trackers, and all my linux ones, and some others...I almost never drop below 700kb/s, my average is around 1.5 mb/s for download and a steady upload. 
 
Try opening your ports and whatnot.

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#14  Edited By pectoral

Why use torrents when there is Usenet? 

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#15  Edited By one_2nd

That's way better than my download speed..

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#16  Edited By Yummylee
@one_2nd said:
" That's way better than my download speed.. "
It's something like Bill Gates complaining his computer can't handle 15 high end PC games on max settings all running at once while downloading the latest Tera Patrick.
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@Vodun said:
" Dude, if your upload is super high (don't know your up limit) then you need to cap it. That thing sucks your bandwidth like crazy and will kill your download. "
what this guy says. cap your upload speed, and your DL speed increases. It works a charm.
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#18  Edited By one_2nd
@Abyssfull said:
" @one_2nd said:
" That's way better than my download speed.. "
It's something like Bill Gates complaining his computer can't handle 15 high end PC games on max settings all running at once while downloading the latest Tera Patrick. "
Something like that, yeah. 
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#19  Edited By Cataphract1014
@RhombusOfTerror: 
 
No it doesn't.
 
@one_2nd: 
 
I'm not complaining about the speed really, I'm complaining about the huge gap in the speed of the upload and the download.  Why is my upload constantly 3x faster than my download?
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#20  Edited By one_2nd
@Cataphract1014: Probably not enough seeds. 
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#21  Edited By oysteinBrenne

what are you guys talking about utorrent is pretty decent for me  
take  maby 25-90 min to dowload a 1.5 g file 

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#22  Edited By Buscemi

My upload has never been over 100kbps and my download is mostly around 800-900kbps. It's enough.

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#23  Edited By Feanor

You are bitching about 900 kbs when you have a ratio like that? The torrent is working very well for you, so stop bitching. When the ratio is that imbalanced you will always have a bigger upload that download. If you don't want your upload that high then you can lower it in the options.

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#24  Edited By Vodun
@Cataphract1014:  Then you have too many connections going on your upload. If there are enough people connected to put your upload that high, there should be enough to get your down up as well (unless it's a really new torrent with just the one original seeder).
 
I'm fairly sure uTorrent has some comprehensive tutorials on how to balance your connectivity to get the maximum out. If all else fails there's the bitch way out and completely kill all up-connections.
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#25  Edited By Jeust

You probably haven't the uTorrent properly configured. So your hate is justified.

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Bit Torrent hates you.

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#27  Edited By Cataphract1014
@Jeust: 
 
When you install Utorrent, it checks ports and tells you if they are closed.  I got all the ones that it needs opened.   My download speeds are fine, its just annoying how much faster I upload if I have it uncapped.  Even if I do have it capped, it makes the download even slower.
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#28  Edited By Jeust
@Cataphract1014 said:
" @Jeust:   When you install Utorrent, it checks ports and tells you if they are closed.  I got all the ones that it needs opened.   My download speeds are fine, its just annoying how much faster I upload if I have it uncapped.  Even if I do have it capped, it makes the download even slower. "
Yep. You should also limit the number of connections to your machine and the number of downloads and uploads, as it will all eat your bandwidth. 
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#29  Edited By HitmanAgent47

Your lucky to get 2-3mb, on a good day I might get 400kb.

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#30  Edited By ekajarmstro

Stop complaining! My internet maxes out at 128 kb/s down and 32 kb/s up, no matter where I download from.
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#31  Edited By Cwaff
@HeghmohQib said:
" I'd be stoked to get 200 KB/s down.  But that's just me. "
My max down is 120kb/s... for anything including direct downloads. *tear in eye*