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#1 Edited by johnnytoxic (3 posts) -
#2 Edited by Sinusoidal (1643 posts) -

It is petty. I like them where they are. I'm sure there will be third party controllers laid out like Xbox controllers available. Buy one of those.

#3 Edited by WalkerD (462 posts) -

What the fuck? I'd like to leave my post at just that, but you can't be serious. You're starting a petition based off of a an unconfirmed picture of a prototype controller over the placement of sticks that have been in the same place for over a decade.

#4 Posted by egg (1469 posts) -

I know petitions are useless, but I'm just trying to gauge how many people are actually put off by the analogue stick position on Sony's controllers.

Would be interesting to find out how many frustrated others are out there. I wanted to buy a PS4; it seems petty but the controller would very much put me off purchasing.

https://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/sony-computer-entertainment-potential-buyers-want-a-controller-with-analogue-sticks-in-the-same-position-as-the-360-s-pad

Whether or not you are wrong, not everyone agrees with you. So all the petition would accomplishment is making you happy at the expense of others.

You are looking at it the wrong way. What you should be petitioning Sony for is the option to use any controller. Delete that petition and make a new one, this time for a proper cause.

#5 Edited by DaMisterChief (628 posts) -

WE MUST CHANGE THE CONTROLLER BECAUSE why not.

One word Madcatz

#6 Posted by PenguinDust (12551 posts) -

3rd parties make Xbox-like controllers for the PS3, they'll make them for the PS4 eventually. Don't get your panties in a bunch.

Also, online petitions are dumb.

#7 Edited by Winternet (8025 posts) -

Yes, let's sign a petition to change a controller that does not exist yet.

#8 Posted by Ghostiet (5289 posts) -

@winternet said:

Yes, let's sign a petition to change a controller that does not exist yet.

This. Not to mention the fact that there are people who are okay with the DS stick layout.

#9 Posted by Teoball (628 posts) -

I really like the PS3 controller better than the 360 one. Switching to the D-Pad whenever a menu pops up feels totally natural too.

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#12 Edited by Hunter5024 (5805 posts) -

Some unnecessary hostility in this thread. I prefer the PS3's placement of the analog stick. One thing I've noticed when I use my 360 controller is that because my thumb hits the stick at an angle, whenever I move forward my character is always tilted slightly to the side. On the ps3 my thumb rests on the analog stick at a right angle, so it doesn't matter. The analog placement literally doesn't matter at all to me however, they're both obviously designed to be accessible without trouble.

#13 Posted by BBQBram (2257 posts) -

Oh yeah the PS3 sticks are awful. Too loose, too small, archaic position of the left stick, akward grip texture and they're not even concave.

#14 Posted by Chibithor (574 posts) -

What I don't get is that isn't the 360 controller's right analog stick in a similar position? If you can comfortably use it with your right hand I don't see what the problem is with doing the same with the left. Symmetry and all, right? And if it's not comfortable then copying that layout seems like a half-assed solution.

That said, I have no problem with how they're positioned on the PS3.

#15 Posted by ReCkLeSs_X (460 posts) -

It's all about preference. There are plenty of people that prefer the sticks this way.

#16 Edited by Bourbon_Warrior (4523 posts) -

This is what I used when I had a PS3, hated the Dualshock 3. The base design of the DS3 is based on a 18 year old controller now, where the D Pad was the main point of controlling, now it is for menu options apart from fighting games and Arcade side scrollers.

#17 Edited by Atwa (622 posts) -

@reckless_x said:

It's all about preference. There are plenty of people that prefer the sticks this way.

I am not sure, most people are just so used to the dualshock that they say that. Your fingers rest on the dpad/face button slot by default and yes you can get used to moving it down, but it feels way more natural I think for most people to have the stick placed as on the 360 controller. The right analog stick isn't used as much as the left which makes it OK for being down there.

@chibithor: You don't use the right stick as much, its only for camera while the left is always for movement.

#18 Posted by Bourbon_Warrior (4523 posts) -

@atwa: What are you talking about the right stick is the "shoot dudes" stick!

#19 Posted by alternate (2715 posts) -

I know petitions are useless

#20 Posted by Wraxend (567 posts) -

Is there a counter petition to this petition? I'd sign that.

#21 Posted by ReCkLeSs_X (460 posts) -

@atwa said:

@reckless_x said:

It's all about preference. There are plenty of people that prefer the sticks this way.

I am not sure, most people are just so used to the dualshock that they say that. Your fingers rest on the dpad/face button slot by default and yes you can get used to moving it down, but it feels way more natural I think for most people to have the stick placed as on the 360 controller. The right analog stick isn't used as much as the left which makes it OK for being down there.

@chibithor: You don't use the right stick as much, its only for camera while the left is always for movement.

But just as you can say this, there are people out there that can use the same mentality against the 360 controller. I'm honestly in the middle on this whole discussion as I enjoy using both controllers. It's just silly to consider one side wrong and the other side infallible.

If you're against this layout, why not just go Xbox?

#22 Posted by EVO (3919 posts) -

@bourbon_warrior said:

The base design of the DS3 is based on a 18 year old controller now, where the D Pad was the main point of controlling, now it is for menu options apart from fighting games and Arcade side scrollers.

Does it really make a difference? I mean, what about first person shooters? You're main point of controlling is both the analogue sticks, so why does nobody give a shit about the right stick placement?

#23 Posted by Chibithor (574 posts) -

@atwa said:

@chibithor: You don't use the right stick as much, its only for camera while the left is always for movement.

Not always. For someone who primarily plays shooters that argument doesn't make a lot of sense, same for someone who mostly plays fighters or other games where they prefer using the d-pad.

It's just a matter of preference and getting used to it. Most who play games on an Xbox I'd assume are comfortable using the right analog stick as much as the left in FPS games, and PS3 owners are used to the left analog stick being where it is.

In any case I think they have more to lose than gain by changing the layout.

#24 Posted by egg (1469 posts) -

@atwa said:

@reckless_x said:

It's all about preference. There are plenty of people that prefer the sticks this way.

I am not sure, most people are just so used to the dualshock that they say that.

Xbox 360 controller fans have got to be the most hypocritical people on the planet. xD

And what's more, you guys actually have a third party controller that offers what you want from the official controller. I didn't even know about the third party controller. So you already have what you need, and you're still complaining. You guys don't realize how lucky you are.

#25 Edited by TooWalrus (13235 posts) -

That's weird, because I definitely do not want them to change the Dualshock.

#27 Posted by Spoonman671 (4693 posts) -

Or you could just play with the sticks in the correct positions.

#28 Posted by Ramone (2975 posts) -

This is stupid, you are stupid. The Playstation controller and the Xbox 360 controller are different but equally good, deal with it.

#29 Posted by ArtisanBreads (3882 posts) -

I also prefer offset sticks ala the Xbox pad but some people prefer this and I doubt they change it.

The Xbox pad is basically perfect to me besides the D-Pad.

#30 Posted by Droop (1910 posts) -

Are you fucking kidding?

#31 Posted by Bucketdeth (8023 posts) -

I am so used to the Dual Shock at this point, any change will take some getting used to. Thought the leaked picture of the prototype controller actually looked really comfortable, and the analog positions are in the same place they have always been, which is fine.

#32 Posted by Nilazz (613 posts) -

WTF?

#33 Posted by StrikeALight (1114 posts) -

Ugh.

It begins.

#34 Posted by Pr1mus (3951 posts) -

I had to open the thread to see how much of a waste of time it would be to open it.

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#35 Posted by agentboolen (1809 posts) -

@johnnytoxic: I own a PS2, got a Gamecube a few years later, then bought a Xbox 360 when it first came out and 4 years later also bought a PS3. Why am I saying this because the 4 years of owning the Xbox 360 with out owning the PS3 I always felt the XBox 360's controller just wasn't as comfortable as the PS2's was. For me I like the analogs where they are on PS systems, for me the directional buttons are much more usable where they are on the PS3 controller. Have you ever tried to use the directional buttons on the Xbox 360 controller alone say in a 2d plateformer? There just not in a good position because of the move of the Left analog stick. I also think the Xbox 360's controller is too thick, doesn't let any air flow through your hands which for me makes that controller a more sweaty controller. The only thing about the PS3 controller I don't like is how every shooter game defaults the gun controls to the RB and LB button's instead of the triggers!! I actually don't mind the PS3's triggers I just found it strange that they don't get more use, its like Sony hates them. For me the DuelShock3 controller is actually a more comfortable controller then the Xbox 360's, and I have put more hours into the Xbox 360's controller then the PS3's controller, If I could use the PS3's controller on the Xbox 360 with out buying some ridiculously expensive attachment I would.

#36 Edited by Blu3V3nom07 (4233 posts) -

Why don't you just design a controller and use that?

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#37 Edited by Demoskinos (15010 posts) -

Yeah,good luck with this.

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#38 Posted by Turtlebird95 (2481 posts) -

Uh... no. I kinda like the controller.

#39 Posted by Blu3V3nom07 (4233 posts) -
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#40 Posted by jimmyfenix (3858 posts) -

hhahahahahahahah

#41 Posted by jimmyfenix (3858 posts) -

hhahahahahahahah

#42 Posted by Blu3V3nom07 (4233 posts) -

hhahahahahahahah

I couldn't find a shorter one. So, mm.

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#43 Posted by PillClinton (3291 posts) -

I've never had a problem with the Dualshock's stick layout in well over a decade of use, and I also very much like the 360 pad and use it as my only controller for PC. I have big-ass hands, too, and the stick layout has really never been an issue for me, although the general small size of the Dualshock has. I do hope they make it a bit bigger. Pinky hang is a problem.

#44 Posted by Cold_Wolven (2259 posts) -

A petition for sensible triggers would be more reasonable, I still wouldn't sign it however because petitions.

#45 Edited by cloudnineboya (828 posts) -

no! i hate xbox stick position but like^ said we do need better triggers,and bigger in genral

#46 Posted by DonPixel (2585 posts) -

Lame, no thanks. Get fun with a kinect 720 always on console.

#47 Posted by BlatantNinja23 (930 posts) -

@penguindust: the problem is that those 3rd party controllers don't have sixaxis so they don't work with everygame.

#48 Posted by EXTomar (4839 posts) -

I never understood why a player would want their sticks in either configuration over the other configuration.

#49 Posted by Grimluck343 (1149 posts) -

I really can't stand trying to use the sticks on the dual shock. And those triggers are fucking awful.

#50 Posted by JZ (2125 posts) -

I hate the 360 controller layout and having the stick up high.