@bargainben said:
@yesiamaduck said:
We're getting to the stage where everyone grew up with video games as 'the norm' and as a result it breeds more hardcore gamers meaning the will always be a demand for big experiences . A fact the press completely neglected whilst forecasting doom.
it didnt turn out true in Japan, and being on the tech edge as they are people often look to that society for paradigms that could happen in the west years down the line. Japan not caring about consoles anymore is probably something to take note of in the future. Its easy to say "I told you so" in hindsight but Im sure many of the same people saying that now thought the iPad and Wii would fail. People only acknowledge the fights they win. PS5 and the next xbox, in 10 years or so, probably will be in some dire straights. Nintendo will probably be entirely mobile by then. The forecast wasn't wrong, it was just early.
Japan's console market is in trouble because Japanese companies stopped making games for the Japanese market. The western market is what they have focused their energy towards. Also, the cost of making big games has risen to the point that a game that only sells in Japan will be unprofitable, so games have to have western or global appeal.
Personally I don't like where the consoles are headed. There seems to be fewer and fewer new ideas being attempted because of the rising costs of making console games. It takes over 600 people multiple years to make an Assassin's Creed or GTA game now. That kind of investment means it's going to stick to the formulas of past installments. But also, with that many people working on a game it has to be difficult to make a meaningful change.
I feel like in the PS2 era studios had between 20 and 50 employees working on a game. We got a lot of interesting games, but we also got a lot of financial failures.
Console market in Japan is the way it it's due to most people going handheld. Even more so than in the past. The idea that they stopped focusing on their own market is going too far in my opinion. Sure there're some games focused on the international market but most are very Japanese games. Many great titles have been Japan only lately. Ni no Kuni took forever to be localised, same for Xenoblade and Last Story. Fatal Frame people have no idea what's going to happen. Dragon Quest X never did, Yakuza has been largely ignored. That's not to mentioned the types of games that are usually never localised such as visual novels. if anything they are simply not been localised.
So with people going handheld, stagnated economy and rising costs of the consoles many companies are focusing on 3DS/Vita/Mobile. There's been plenty of good games released for Vita and 3DS that haven't come out outside of Japan yet such as Monster Hunter 4, Youkai Watch, Youkai Watch 2 etc And when they do it takes forever (Bravely Default, Animal Crossing, Tomodachi Collection, Rune factory 4 etc)
To cut it short, market changed and 3DS is where Japanese gaming is (at the moment). That said, there'll be plenty of good games for consoles. This gen is still in its infancy.
I don't have many complaints but maybe it's because my tastes have mostly been satisfied and because I don't need to wait for localisations. Not everything is doing well obviously but that's always true. I miss some things too.
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