#1 Posted by Wuddel (2109 posts) -

So a new Syndicate is upon us. A unique blend of top-down view tactics game and (light) business simulation game, made into generic FPS with "super innovative" bullet time. The gamer in me mourns and weeps. If make it into a FPS at least twist it. Nowadays with online there are so many possibilities. Like adding a fake stock market, generating values for bounties etc. *sigh*

#2 Posted by temmink (50 posts) -

FPS could work if they really focus on the co-op aspect. Chances are they won't and it will be garbage, but there is a glimmer of hope there.

#3 Posted by niamahai (1394 posts) -

The only mindless thing about the new syndicate is the internet hate.

#4 Posted by Cheesebob (1257 posts) -

3/4s for the people ranting about this haven't even played Syndicate thanks to its extreme age. Also Starbreeze are making this, they hadly have a track record of making "mindless FPSs" do they?

#5 Edited by Wuddel (2109 posts) -

@Cheesebob said:

3/4s for the people ranting about this haven't even played Syndicate thanks to its extreme age. Also Starbreeze are making this, they hadly have a track record of making "mindless FPSs" do they?

Well, I played it. I still want to visit the world. But the fact remains. In the original, you were playing the corporation (or its CEO or something). That inherently gave you more possibilities than playing one of their frontline grunts. FPS and Syndicate can totally work. Just not without all the stuff that made the original great and expanding on it a online gaming world.

#6 Posted by jetsetwillie (857 posts) -

so an game that is from the first person perspective is just a 'mindless shooter' then is it. fuck the internet is gettimg more stupid by the day. i need a break from it i think.

#7 Edited by BraveToaster (12588 posts) -
@jetsetwillie said:

so an game that is from the first person perspective is just a 'mindless shooter' then is it. fuck the internet is gettimg more stupid by the day. i need a break from it i think.

The way you typed your post is ironic. I do agree with you about mindless shooters, though.
#8 Posted by AlexW00d (6548 posts) -

@jetsetwillie: You can hardly talk about people being stupid when you can't even spell.

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#9 Posted by Nocall (360 posts) -

I heard they're making Theme Hospital 2. 
 
You play a renegade doctor who must run around a town healing infected citizens with your medi-gun. The whole thing's played from a first-person perspective.

#10 Posted by SomeJerk (3498 posts) -

As somebody who was around for Syndicate 1 and even bought the dang thing for both PC and Amiga (PC version suuuuuuucked).. I am okay with this as long as they keep the OG Syndicate everything. I'd rather seen the other classic Hired Guns get remade, four player co-op would make perfect sense for that one.

#11 Edited by CptBedlam (4463 posts) -

@SomeJerk said:

As somebody who was around for Syndicate 1 and even bought the dang thing for both PC and Amiga (PC version suuuuuuucked)..

I don't know how shitty your PC was back then but the PC version was clearly the best version of the game. The resolution on Amiga was 320x240 whereas on PC it was 640x480.

@SomeJerk said:

I am okay with this as long as they keep the OG Syndicate everything. I'd rather seen the other classic Hired Guns get remade, four player co-op would make perfect sense for that one.

Keep what? And Hired Guns a classic? Hired Guns was a pathetic attempt at making a 3D Jagged Alliance.

#12 Posted by SomeJerk (3498 posts) -

@CptBedlam said:

@SomeJerk said:

As somebody who was around for Syndicate 1 and even bought the dang thing for both PC and Amiga (PC version suuuuuuucked)..

I don't know how shitty your PC was back then but the PC version was clearly the best version of the game. The resolution on Amiga was 320x240 whereas on PC it was 640x480.

@SomeJerk said:

I am okay with this as long as they keep the OG Syndicate everything. I'd rather seen the other classic Hired Guns get remade, four player co-op would make perfect sense for that one.

Keep what? And Hired Guns a classic? Hired Guns was a pathetic attempt at making a 3D Jagged Alliance.

No, Hired Guns was released a year before Jagged Alliance which was great but never captured what HG delivered: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr0tczfK4-A first person view, seeing and controlling all four at once, some amazing sights later in the game, not to mention the full 3D world and the sci-fi horror enemies. My PC didn't have any awesome soundcard in it so the music was bloops and bleeps while my 1987 Amiga 500 had the full on mod music enabled by default. Naturally I'm biased when I got all that in a too cheap box in 87.

#13 Posted by dagas (3036 posts) -

Just because it's an FPS doesn't mean it's mindless. I doubt it's going to be like CoD.

#14 Posted by CptBedlam (4463 posts) -

@SomeJerk said:

@CptBedlam said:

@SomeJerk said:

As somebody who was around for Syndicate 1 and even bought the dang thing for both PC and Amiga (PC version suuuuuuucked)..

I don't know how shitty your PC was back then but the PC version was clearly the best version of the game. The resolution on Amiga was 320x240 whereas on PC it was 640x480.

@SomeJerk said:

I am okay with this as long as they keep the OG Syndicate everything. I'd rather seen the other classic Hired Guns get remade, four player co-op would make perfect sense for that one.

Keep what? And Hired Guns a classic? Hired Guns was a pathetic attempt at making a 3D Jagged Alliance.

No, Hired Guns was released a year before Jagged Alliance which was great but never captured what HG delivered: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr0tczfK4-A first person view, seeing and controlling all four at once, some amazing sights later in the game, not to mention the full 3D world and the sci-fi horror enemies. My PC didn't have any awesome soundcard in it so the music was bloops and bleeps while my 1987 Amiga 500 had the full on mod music enabled by default. Naturally I'm biased when I got all that in a too cheap box in 87.

Okay, so the old Hired Guns was a different game altogether then. You can't even compare that to JA (JA is much more complex, let alone the infinitely better all-time classic JA2). The newer "Hired Guns" however was a lame 3D game: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GS3VlKMFeeo

#15 Posted by Napalm (9020 posts) -

Bunch'a salty motherfuckers in here.

#16 Posted by EuanDewar (5120 posts) -

STAAARBREEEZE

They made a good Riddick game for crissake.

#17 Edited by ectoplasma (988 posts) -

Syndicate is one of the games I have the fondest memories of, while, funnily, only ever playing the demo and never really knowing what the game was about. My cousin and me just specialized on blowing all the buildings up :). Since you seem to have an acquired taste I want to nudge you to this remake of xcom, if you dont know about it: http://www.xenonauts.com/

#18 Posted by Jeust (10975 posts) -

I wanted a sequel to Syndicate with the old gameplay. Like someone said the FPS market is overcrowded, and it looks hard for the game to distinguish itself there.  
 
I won't get this.

#19 Posted by Jack268 (3387 posts) -

It's made by Starbreeze. I don't think it will be mindless, but I can understand people being disappointed after waiting for a sequel this long.

#20 Posted by MordeaniisChaos (5730 posts) -

From what I scanned of the article, you can hack people. Or something. Doesn't sound very mindless. In fact, I think it's more mindful to be first person. The most in-depth games are often first person. It's also Starbreeze so there is a decent chance it'll be awesome. CoD is a mindless shooter. Doesn't mean everything else is too.

#21 Posted by MEATBALL (3723 posts) -

Yes, the market is flooded with First Person Shooters, no that doesn't mean they're all mindless. It's perfectly reasonable to be disappointed in this as a direction for the franchise's revival, however let's not jump to conclusions about the quality of the game itself.

#22 Posted by TekZero (2705 posts) -
We can still hope for a team based tactical shooter.  A cyberpunk Ghost Recon if you will. 
 
At least make this new game at least a little like the original game. 
#23 Posted by DeF (5025 posts) -

hello prejudice, how are you today?

#24 Posted by Vinny_Says (5729 posts) -

Because Johhny Walmart wants to play a game like they made in 1993....
 
Don't be ridiculous, I'm sure they want to sell at least more than 20 copies of this game.

#25 Posted by mosdl (3387 posts) -

@SomeJerk said:

As somebody who was around for Syndicate 1 and even bought the dang thing for both PC and Amiga (PC version suuuuuuucked).. I am okay with this as long as they keep the OG Syndicate everything. I'd rather seen the other classic Hired Guns get remade, four player co-op would make perfect sense for that one.

PC version was fine for me.

I do hope they put it out on GOG.com though...

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#26 Posted by ZackHoagie (23 posts) -

How much of this is coming from the fact that you guys genuinely loved Syndicate compared to the fact that you don't like seeing dudes who watch UFC play videogames.