Why are the Russians always the bad guys? Even in non american-made titles like vanquish, the russians are always the evil opposing force.
Yet united states is no different they are just as aggressive and more greedy but never get this view in a game.
Why are there no games where the americans are bad guys?
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Because AMERICA FUCK YEAH
Honestly though, I think it is basically a matter of America still being one of the world's main superpowers, many developers don't consider American villains "relevant".
I'm guessing we'll have another shitstorm if we can shoot americans.
Their tolerance being between nowhere and nothing.
So lets go back to killing germans/asians/russians/whole slew of other races/stereotypes.
" Because AMERICA FUCK YEAH "FUCK YEAH!
You want to relate to the hero and what better way than the classy American hero blasting some foreign countries baddies?
" I'm guessing we'll have another shitstorm if we can shoot americans. Their tolerance being between nowhere and nothing.So lets go back to killing germans/asians/russians/whole slew of other races/stereotypes. "but that just proves hypocrites
There is shitstorm when its Americans but any other country its okay.
If any thing these other countries have more balls than America.
In America they would complain so much about how its just like with killing in mw2 of civilians and then Taliban in medal of honor.
So America grow a pair.
" Because the US represents a large portion of the people buying the game. My guess is that developers are afraid that no one in the states will buy it because they don't like being painted as the bad guy. But what do I know. "Depends if a big game like call of duty did it sales would not be hurt at all i dont think any one would care.
Modern Warfare 2, to an extent.
Avatar, the game.
As for why, well its because the largest market is the United States and many games are made by American developers. Just like how a Japanese developer would make their game Japanese.
Canadian developers still make games more American though.
" Cause however made us the bad guys, we'd call terrorists. "This is pretty much it. America won't allow something like that.
We're kinda stupid like that.
Because bad guys don't stand for liberty and freedom and football, big titties, hamburgers, monster trucks, and all that shit.
"I'm guessing we'll have another shitstorm if we can shoot americans. Their tolerance being between nowhere and nothing.So lets go back to killing germans/asians/russians/whole slew of other races/stereotypes. "
Yup.
You shoot plenty of Americans in Red Dead Redemption, GTA, MW2, Saints Row, Mafia, Fallout 1, 2, and 3, etc. You have no argument." @TaliciaDragonsong said:
" I'm guessing we'll have another shitstorm if we can shoot americans. Their tolerance being between nowhere and nothing.So lets go back to killing germans/asians/russians/whole slew of other races/stereotypes. "but that just proves hypocrites There is shitstorm when its Americans but any other country its okay. If any thing these other countries have more balls than America. In America they would complain so much about how its just like with killing in mw2 of civilians and then Taliban in medal of honor. So America grow a pair. "
A lot of politically charged stories feature Americans as villains in games (most Splinter Cell games have AT LEAST one bad American).
Because without America all of Europe would be speaking German, South Korea would not exist, and Saddam Hussein would still be in power. What has Russia done for the world other than spread communism?
" Because without America all of Europe would be speaking German, South Korea would not exist, and Saddam Hussein would still be in power. What has Russia done for the world other than spread communism? "NO, It's because of The Soviet Union Europe isn't speaking german right now.
" @ShadowofIntent said:Boo-yah!" Because without America all of Europe would be speaking German, South Korea would not exist, and Saddam Hussein would still be in power. What has Russia done for the world other than spread communism? "NO, It's because of The Soviet Union Europe isn't speaking german right now. "
Anyway look at that whole fiasco with MOH, that's why... developers don't want that negative press and headache in the biggest game market. Not to mention all those soccer moms complaining find it perfectly acceptable to kill Russians, Germans, Native Americans, Koreans and Mexicans but it's not ok when it's Americans.. heh.
" @ShadowofIntent said:I think the US schools almost only focus on their contribution in WW2 so they think they almost single handedly won the war." Because without America all of Europe would be speaking German, South Korea would not exist, and Saddam Hussein would still be in power. What has Russia done for the world other than spread communism? "NO, It's because of The Soviet Union Europe isn't speaking german right now. "
Yup, it's brainwashing, more or less. Which is insane." @TheSeductiveMoose said:
" @ShadowofIntent said:I think the US schools almost only focus on their contribution in WW2 so they think they almost single handedly won the war. "" Because without America all of Europe would be speaking German, South Korea would not exist, and Saddam Hussein would still be in power. What has Russia done for the world other than spread communism? "NO, It's because of The Soviet Union Europe isn't speaking german right now. "
I think it's bullshit that we're always the good guys. I'd like to see a game that showcases our true colors. The entire country isn't bad but most of the Top Men are conniving.
" @TheSeductiveMoose said:You're right on the money. Even in my school, which is pretty liberal, we were really only taught about American accomplishments in WW2. I basically had to do my own research to get the whole story." @ShadowofIntent said:I think the US schools almost only focus on their contribution in WW2 so they think they almost single handedly won the war. "" Because without America all of Europe would be speaking German, South Korea would not exist, and Saddam Hussein would still be in power. What has Russia done for the world other than spread communism? "NO, It's because of The Soviet Union Europe isn't speaking german right now. "
I hope you understand that the Russians gave the most to stop nazi Germany, secondly South Korea was a UN led battle with the US spear heading, thirdly you do realise that US ousted Saddam and then put him back into power right? Right??? I won't deny the US did alot for the world, but I think you should read up on your stuff dude." Because without America all of Europe would be speaking German, South Korea would not exist, and Saddam Hussein would still be in power. What has Russia done for the world other than spread communism? "
Well, most games that put America in a negative light target cultural stuff over military, because then its intellectual instead of gratuitous, anti-american violence in the eyes of the american public
Almost forgot, if you played Mercs 2: World in Flames, you can totally side with China and fight the UN forces, which is basically the American army
The US is the biggest market. That's what sells the most copies. And that the end of that. If no one or like 1% of people who buys games in the US now bought games now and 90% of all game sales happened in Russia you'd always have the Russians as the good guys and have someone else as the bad guys.
Just going off the top of my head for games I own:
Dead Rising and Dead Rising 2: kill hella American zombies and psychopaths, and also fight the American military in the first one.
Left 4 Dead and Left 4 Dead 2: kill hella American zombies.
Modern Warfare 2: the Americans are secretly the bad guys.
Civilization 5: you can fight George Washington and the American army.
Grand Theft Auto 1, III, Vice City, San Andreas, IV: the "bad guys" are American.
" @ShadowofIntent said:" Because without America all of Europe would be speaking German, South Korea would not exist, and Saddam Hussein would still be in power. What has Russia done for the world other than spread communism? "NO, It's because of The Soviet Union Europe isn't speaking german right now. "
NO, it's because of the efforts of the United States of America and the Soviet Union that Europe isn't speaking German. Learn your history. France was done, Britain had no more forces to fight back a full scale war. Germany would have regrouped their forces from Western Europe and took the Soviet Union head on in full strenght. Americans and Russians working together, forcing Germany to fight a war on two fronts led to the downfall of Germany. I hate it when someone gives all the credit to just one of these countries. They both deserve credit.
CoD4 makes Americans look like cocky idiots (which they are (I am American)).
I wish more games took the risk to exaggerate America's flaws satirically, like Dead Rising1/2 and CoD4. It's original, and sheaths off some slack from other countries that get it up the ass from some Tom Clancy inspired developers.
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