New handheld revealed: Jungle

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#1  Edited By FluxWaveZ

    
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Panasonic has very recently announced their development on a new portable gaming device called Jungle.  Apparently, this device is aimed specifically for "online gamers", so I assume that it'll be host to games that have more of a multiplayer focus than we are used to seeing on handhelds. 
 
@engadget:

The clamshell device will allegedly sport a super high-resolution display, features a full QWERTY keyboard along with what looks like a touch sensitive d-pad and button arrangement, and may run atop a custom Linux build. The Jungle will also apparently sport a mini HDMI port, a micro USB port, and a 3.5mm headphone jack.  


The first title that has been announced for it is an MMO named "Battlestar Galactica Online".
 
  
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Trailer for Battlestar Galactica Online: 
 
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#2  Edited By august

Ngage 2.0.

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#3  Edited By ajamafalous

Interesting.

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#4  Edited By edtwo

who is gonna play a mmo on a handheld?

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#5  Edited By KaosAngel

...is this one of those jokes?

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#7  Edited By Scooper

I can't think of anything else but a room filled with suits when I see the slogan "Welcome to the Jungle".

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#8  Edited By TaliciaDragonsong

Horrible music, but who knows where this leads to.

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#9  Edited By blair

It's dumb but new ideas are always good for the market, even when they appear bad.  I want to see some Jungle Quick Looks, hah.

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#10  Edited By lutonhatter
@august said:
" Ngage 2.0. "
3DO 2.0
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#11  Edited By vaiz

This is a bad idea.

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#12  Edited By EvilTwin

Geez, talk about a bizarre development.

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#13  Edited By Glak

This is crazy and probably a bad idea

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#14  Edited By kelbear
@FluxWaveZ: This thing is doomed from the get-go. I hope someone over there realizes this before they blow any more money on it. 
 
Marketing probably should have done some focus group testing before they finalized product design goals.  
1) MMO players need to cleanly hit keys in order to play. If the MMO were designed to reduce key dependency they'd be fine...but first you'd need your product to be a success to get developers to design around it.   
2) MMO players need a functional mouse to play. See above.  The handheld size inherently restricts the ability to cleanly hit hotkeys, and touchpads are not as good as mice and get exponentially worse the smaller they are. This product is held back by the size of human fingers. 
3) Running on Linux means this thing will have no games, or terrible support. Panasonic does not have the clout to ask developers for support, or to buy their support outright. WINE is irrelevant here, because the "Jungle" is competing as a handheld, and console gaming is expected to simply work. The threshold for bullshit work-arounds is far lower than for PC gaming. If they want to run games using Linux, then it will have to be a completely independent distro, and playing only games specifically designed to operate on it. They aren't going to be able to simply take Windows games and make them work on Linux. WINE has yet to reach "just works" status and it has far more development behind it.  
 
The reason "just works" is so important is because you need that for marketing. You can't advertise the product saying that it's really good if you fuck around with it for an hour or so to get it to work. The people willing to put up with that aren't the type of people who respond to advertising. This target audience is not part of the mass audience, and can't support a major product launch with its purchases.
 
This thing is restricted to playing games that are highly automated, and/or simple enough to run through browsers. Not something people will drop $400 on to make it a commercial success. However, hobbyists will have a ball with this because they don't mind tinkering around to get it to work.
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#15  Edited By DetectiveSpecial
@LutonHatter said:
" @august said:
" Ngage 2.0. "
3DO 2.0 "
I kind of like the 3DO. 
This thing......not so much.
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#16  Edited By raiz265

looks stupid 
also i think battlestar galactica is awful 
 
 
3DS hooray!

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#17  Edited By rjayb89

I am known to jungle.

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#18  Edited By Dan_CiTi

Does it play Jungler? 

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#19  Edited By Hamz

With the PSP in this weird stagnant phase and the 3DS basically looking like an overpriced DSi now may not be such a bad time for a third entry into the handheld market. 

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#20  Edited By Vorbis

I read that as Jungler, now I'm just disappointed.

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#21  Edited By FluxWaveZ
@Hamz said:
" the 3DS basically looking like an overpriced DSi "
Wut.
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#22  Edited By Romination
@LutonHatter said:
" @august said:
" Ngage 2.0. "
3DO 2.0 "
The Phantom 2.0
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#23  Edited By luce
@ajamafalous said:
" Interesting. "



 
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#24  Edited By ajamafalous
@luce said:
" @ajamafalous said:
" Interesting. "



 
"
Thankfully I have quite the beard on my chin and can call upon it for situations such as this.
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#25  Edited By falconer
@Vorbis said:
" I read that as Jungler, now I'm just disappointed. "
Same.
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#26  Edited By CptBedlam

The only thing that I want to know about this whole issue ... did the news surface in time for tomorrow's bombcast?

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#27  Edited By FluxWaveZ
@CptBedlam said:
" The only thing that I want to know about this whole issue ... did the news surface in time for tomorrow's bombcast? "
Haha, I'd like to know that too.
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#28  Edited By DoctorWelch
@EdTwo said:
" who is gonna play a mmo on a handheld? "
Ummm, ME!!! (im being sarcastic)
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#29  Edited By WickedCestus

I think that not having any sort of analog stick really hurts it in this day and age. Doesn't seem to offer anything new. 
 
Does anyone really want to buy another handheld when the 3DS is right around the corner?

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#30  Edited By JauntyHat
@Hamz said:
"With the PSP in this weird stagnant phase and the 3DS basically looking like an overpriced DSi now may not be such a bad time for a third entry into the handheld market.  "

Come on Hamz do you REALLY think that the handheld market has room for three consoles? The 3DS may be pricey but it's still going to sell like hotcakes.
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#31  Edited By falconer
@CptBedlam: No, it's recorded on Monday's and this information was just released.
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#32  Edited By JJWeatherman

I hate to be so pessimistic, but I'm gonna go ahead and call a giant failure for this. Just doesn't seem like a good idea.

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#33  Edited By MistaSparkle

But...when has this EVER worked? By that I mean a portable device by anybody other than Sony, Microsoft, or Nintendo. Even some of them can't do it right.

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#34  Edited By HitmanAgent47

Risky, I don't think this handheld will get alot of 3rd party support.

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#35  Edited By thatfrood

hahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...!

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#36  Edited By buzz_clik
@KaosAngel said:
" ...is this one of those jokes? "
It will be eventually.
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#37  Edited By ch3burashka

This is absolutely fucking crazy. I can't wait to hear what my various podcasts have to say about this, besides the obvious. 
 
What the hell is Panasonic even thinking? 

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#38  Edited By FunExplosions

I know it's 2010... but I can't help but fully expect this thing to put out some shitty PSP-ish graphics.

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#39  Edited By Hamz
@JauntyHat said:

" @Hamz said:

"With the PSP in this weird stagnant phase and the 3DS basically looking like an overpriced DSi now may not be such a bad time for a third entry into the handheld market.  "
Come on Hamz do you REALLY think that the handheld market has room for three consoles? The 3DS may be pricey but it's still going to sell like hotcakes. "
We have the Wii, 360 and PS3 and the PC / Mac for primary gaming platforms. I don't see how a third would hurt especially given that the PSP Go is still around $250 and the 3DS is going to sport a hefty $300 price tag. A third product if priced cheaper than the latter two could have a chance. Sure it'll be snubbed a little as the 'cheap man's PSP/DS' style product by the mainstream consumer base. But there's gotta be a handheld market out there for people not willing to pay the current prices being asked by Nintendo and Sony. 
 
And yes I do imagine the 3DS will sell like hotcakes. If it didn't I'd be surprised. Still doesn't make that price tag any easier to digest though...
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#40  Edited By Jeffsekai

Why?

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#41  Edited By omghisam

Aww, I wish there was a real Battlestar game coming out. :(

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#42  Edited By RadixNegative2

this looks god awful...

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#43  Edited By Zithe

Good luck playing a decent MMO with a microscopic keyboard and no mouse.

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#44  Edited By jack_daniels
@Hamz said:
" With the PSP in this weird stagnant phase and the 3DS basically looking like an overpriced DSi now may not be such a bad time for a third entry into the handheld market.  "
I have bought a Gameboy, Gameboy Color, Gameboy Advance, Sega Game Gear, And the DS. I never played those things much when I have a nice console and a computer around.  In other words NO MORE handhelds. Unless this handheld takes over for something else. I know the ngage failed, but damn. I want to combine all my porto gadgets into one things.
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#45  Edited By RIDEBIRD

Quite possibly the stupidest thing I've ever seen. What the hell were they thinking?

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#46  Edited By MisterChief

Is it 1992?

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#47  Edited By JauntyHat
@Hamz:
I still think the market is completely different than the Home Console. The idea is that you have a home console and then you have a handheld device. What's the market for this thing? It's not kiddy games or games that appeal to all ages like Ninteno, its not a graphical powerhouse that allows you to play home console class games on the go like the PSP, it's main goal is to sell to MMO players. This market is huge, but what MMO player wants to play on a handheld when they have their home computer/laptop that can do everything it can and better? The idea of a handheld is that you can play it on the go/anywhere. That doesnt really mesh with the MMO player imo.
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#48  Edited By jdquach

What? WHY!?!
 
Who in their right mind is going to play a MMO on a 4 inch screen without a mouse and a shitty micro keyboard!?!

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#49  Edited By zidd

This thing is probably gonna make the N-Gage seem like a good idea.

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#50  Edited By onarum

Looks like crap though.