Arizona rules because of this

 http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/news/articles/2010/04/14/20100414immigration0414.html

erm yay?

I don't support illegal immigration, but I feel compassion towards the people that resort to it. Most of these people just want their families to have better lives. Too bad nobody tells them the economy here is probably worse off than their home land's. 

As a random tidbit.
 
When I was at Fort Knox for Cavalry Scout training, we had a Mexican gentlemen that went into the Army to gain citizenship. I don't know the details, but he failed some U.S. citizenship qualification standard, so the government said if he joined the Army he can be an American.

These laws are bittersweet, they are meant to protect people more from drug and weapon smugglers and the cartel on the border which is great. At the same time though it makes it harder for families that just want better lives which I respect.

good for arizona

+5 Renegade

"Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breath free, or fine them 500 bucks for existing. One of those two."

stupid republicans... fucking it up for people who want to actually live in america...

This is pretty sad, that you list this as a reason Arizona rocks.
Now in California, we have this man as our governor.

" @Bucketdeth: Thank you. "

" Sigh, poor immigrants when will they get a break. "

" stupid republicans... fucking it up for people who want to actually live in america... "

I'm embarrassed to be an Arizonan right now.  
 
I'm also half Mexican so If I get pulled over for no reason when this law comes into effect I'll be even more pissed off. Thanks to racial profiling I've already gotten pulled over once this year for no legitimate reason, the cop openly admitted that because I was Mexican and because I had a duffel bag in my back seat, he wanted to check If I had any drugs. I didn't do anything because it was my first time ever getting pulled over, so I was nervous (and it was scary.) Now this shit is gonna legitimize that behavior. Thanks Arizona! 

You would be pretty angry too if it was 100 degrees outside everyday.

This law is disgusting. How could anyone want this?

" I'm embarrassed to be an Arizonan right now.   I'm also half Mexican so If I get pulled over for no reason when this law comes into effect I'll be even more pissed off. Thanks to racial profiling I've already gotten pulled over once this year for no legitimate reason, the cop openly admitted that because I was Mexican and because I had a duffel bag in my back seat, he wanted to check If I had any drugs. I didn't do anything because it was my first time ever getting pulled over, so I was nervous (and it was scary.) Now this shit is gonna legitimize that behavior. Thanks Arizona!  "

" This law is disgusting. How could anyone want this? "

" I'm embarrassed to be an Arizonan right now.   I'm also half Mexican so If I get pulled over for no reason when this law comes into effect I'll be even more pissed off. Thanks to racial profiling I've already gotten pulled over once this year for no legitimate reason, the cop openly admitted that because I was Mexican and because I had a duffel bag in my back seat, he wanted to check If I had any drugs. I didn't do anything because it was my first time ever getting pulled over, so I was nervous (and it was scary.) Now this shit is gonna legitimize that behavior. Thanks Arizona!  "

HOW THE FUCK DO ANY OF YOU SEE ANY GOOD IN THIS LAW? IT IS BOGGLING MY FUCKING MIND RIGHT NOW, NEARLY AS MUCH AS ARIZONA ITSELF.

" HOW THE FUCK DO ANY OF YOU SEE ANY GOOD IN THIS LAW? IT IS BOGGLING MY FUCKING MIND RIGHT NOW, NEARLY AS MUCH AS ARIZONA ITSELF. "

" @Ariketh said:

" @Mr_Faraday said:

" Sigh, poor immigrants when will they get a break. "

...Ummm, they have been getting a break. Now it is time for the law.
 
The only possible problem I see with this is if they bypass due process. I would hate to see legal Americans being shipped out. Otherwise, I don't see a real problem with this. I mean, they are breaking the law...

Fuuuuckkk...what a stupid argument  My guess is that you would oppose slaves trying to escape the South in 1803 amirite? I mean by law, they couldn't run away. I'm assuming you would want due process for those who would drink alcohol in the 1920's, since it was illegal? If it was illegal to NOT go to church on Sunday, would you advocate punishment for them?  Obviously, arguing morality from law is reserved for the insane. So that makes me wonder, why do you have your particular standpoint on "illegals"? "

Yay ignorance?

" Also, by due process, I mean doing a check to see if these people are legal/Americans or not. Nothing more. "

" @Ariketh said:

" Also, by due process, I mean doing a check to see if these people are legal/Americans or not. Nothing more. "

What does "doing a check" constitute? A background check? Or questioning every tan person you see, asking to see their papers, and taking them to jail if they can't reproduce them? This law promotes and encourages profiling. It is amoral and unjust. Illegal immigration is a problem, but to fix it by pulling over every Mexican looking person on the grounds that they look a certain way is insane. It's a witch hunt. It is akin to what happened in Salem in the 17th century and the Japanese in the 20th. Fuck Arizona and their fascist law. Can't believe some of the same people who support this law are the ones who call Obama a socialist. Christ all-fucking-mighty. "

Scared people making bad decisions.

Woo! /sarcasm
Fuck Arizona.

" @bhhawks78: Explain to me what this implies, bhhawks: " The Arizona bill would require anyone whom police suspect of being in the country illegally to produce 'an alien registration document.'" "

" @mikeeegeee said:

" @Ariketh said:

" Also, by due process, I mean doing a check to see if these people are legal/Americans or not. Nothing more. "

What does "doing a check" constitute? A background check? Or questioning every tan person you see, asking to see their papers, and taking them to jail if they can't reproduce them? This law promotes and encourages profiling. It is amoral and unjust. Illegal immigration is a problem, but to fix it by pulling over every Mexican looking person on the grounds that they look a certain way is insane. It's a witch hunt. It is akin to what happened in Salem in the 17th century and the Japanese in the 20th. Fuck Arizona and their fascist law. Can't believe some of the same people who support this law are the ones who call Obama a socialist. Christ all-fucking-mighty. "

You realize there are a metric shitton of illegals who don't look remotely hispanic right?  "

I can't say I'm in favor of this. I'm not sure why you'd think this makes them rule. I'd be ashamed if I lived in Arizona.

More Politically Motivated Racial Profiling, exactly what America needs right now.  Good one Republicans.  God.  /shakes head in disbelief.
 
What I love is how so many rich/upper middle class white people in AZ are happy to have Mexicans working for them paid in low sums of cash, often with full knowledge that they're illegal immigrants but rarely seem to support the idea that these people are allowed to legitimize themselves as eventual American citizens.  Seems George Carlin was right, it's called the American Dream because you have to be asleep to believe it.

" More Politically Motivated Racial Profiling, exactly what America needs right now.  Good one Republicans.  God.  /shakes head in disbelief. "

" @bhhawks78 said:

" @mikeeegeee said:

" @Ariketh said:

" Also, by due process, I mean doing a check to see if these people are legal/Americans or not. Nothing more. "

What does "doing a check" constitute? A background check? Or questioning every tan person you see, asking to see their papers, and taking them to jail if they can't reproduce them? This law promotes and encourages profiling. It is amoral and unjust. Illegal immigration is a problem, but to fix it by pulling over every Mexican looking person on the grounds that they look a certain way is insane. It's a witch hunt. It is akin to what happened in Salem in the 17th century and the Japanese in the 20th. Fuck Arizona and their fascist law. Can't believe some of the same people who support this law are the ones who call Obama a socialist. Christ all-fucking-mighty. "

You realize there are a metric shitton of illegals who don't look remotely hispanic right?  "

Exactly. This is not about racial profiling. It is about Americans wanting their jobs back. The media is simply trying to stir you up. It is sorta their job...We are in an economic crisis, and I could see this being a possible solution. I am not saying it is the best course of action, but even Obama acknowledged that he has not been handling the illegal immigrants problem very well. I like Obama and think he is doing a fine job (though it is hard to do worse than Bush), but this is an issue that has slipped under the radar for too long. "Doing a check" means basically what you just said - except America is a little more high tech than you might think. A police officer can put your ID into a computer in their car and pull up your records. "

" @bhhawks78: Ya know, I get it. I really wanted this country to be a safer place, so the government decided it was okay to wire tap our phones. Voila. Safer. The ends justify the means, don't they? "

" @mikeeegeee said:

" @bhhawks78: Ya know, I get it. I really wanted this country to be a safer place, so the government decided it was okay to wire tap our phones. Voila. Safer. The ends justify the means, don't they? "

Hell no, illegals and the economy have NOTHING to do with wire taps and safety, stop pulling bullshit arguments from nowhere.  Here it's my turn if you're playing the race card here you must think pedophiles should be allowed to rape children.  "

Whether this leads to racial profiling or not, I don't get where some people are thinking this somehow legalizes the act.  The law is meant to deport illegal immigrants, regardless of their race or nation of origin.  It just happens that Arizona is on the border with Mexico, and a lot of Mexicans cross the border illegally through that state.  And frankly, despite the tone and possible effectiveness or lack thereof, I have no problem with Arizona's lawmakers doing this.  They're making at least some form of formal effort to combat illegal immigration, which the federal government has done absolutely jack shit about.
 
All I hear from Washington on the matter is a lot of people saying "Shame on you" without actually providing anything constructive, like,  you know, workable alternatives.

"I'm embarrassed to be an Arizonan right now.   I'm also half Mexican so If I get pulled over for no reason when this law comes into effect I'll be even more pissed off. Thanks to racial profiling I've already gotten pulled over once this year for no legitimate reason, the cop openly admitted that because I was Mexican and because I had a duffel bag in my back seat, he wanted to check If I had any drugs. I didn't do anything because it was my first time ever getting pulled over, so I was nervous (and it was scary.) Now this shit is gonna legitimize that behavior. Thanks Arizona!  "

" @bhhawks78 said:

" @mikeeegeee said:

" @bhhawks78: Ya know, I get it. I really wanted this country to be a safer place, so the government decided it was okay to wire tap our phones. Voila. Safer. The ends justify the means, don't they? "

Hell no, illegals and the economy have NOTHING to do with wire taps and safety, stop pulling bullshit arguments from nowhere.  Here it's my turn if you're playing the race card here you must think pedophiles should be allowed to rape children.  "

I recognize that the anecdote is unrelated. But the parallels of infringements on personal liberties are not. "

" @bhhawks78: So the ends don't justify the means in this case? Because if you're good on that, I'm good on that, too. "

Arizona: Home of Joe Arpaio. 
 
Nuff said.