#1 Posted by nintendoeats (5975 posts) -

I noticed that there was no topic about the new James Bond film, and I thought that there should be. Well, I saw it yesterday. And it's really good. If you like James Bond then you should see it. He goes to cool places, shoots bad guys and drives a beautiful Aston Martin. Most importantly, the plot is 100% comprehensible. Hooah.

#2 Edited by Video_Game_King (36272 posts) -

B...but we weren't having a conversation previously. HOW DO YOU START TOPICS IN SUCH TRANSITIONAL STATES!?

#3 Posted by SomeDeliCook (2341 posts) -

@Video_Game_King said:

B...but we weren't having a conversation previously. HOW DO YOU START TOPICS LIKE IN SUCH TRANSITIONAL STATES!?

I am starting to hate threads that start with "So"

#4 Posted by Clonedzero (4200 posts) -

yeah, i really liked it. and im not a huge bond fan. i find bond to be an annoying character.

#5 Posted by 1momosauky (211 posts) -

What does that even mean? How is he annoying

#6 Posted by mbdoeden (189 posts) -

@nintendoeats said:

I noticed that there was no topic about the new James Bond film, and I thought that there should be. Well, I saw it yesterday. And it's really good. If you like James Bond then you should see it. He goes to cool places, shoots bad guys and drives a beautiful Aston Martin. Most importantly, the plot is 100% comprehensible. Hooah.

Perfect.

#7 Posted by Grimhild (723 posts) -

What's all this I hear about Home Alone gags in it? Does he use a carpet of Micro Machines to thwart evil shadow companies embedded in certain government agencies? Because that would be pretty rad.

#8 Posted by GERALTITUDE (3429 posts) -

@Video_Game_King: Oh my god.

I have to tell you that this one time, a long time ago, I was at work and girl came up to me and said, By the way, my name is Whatever. I froze and said HOW DO YOU START TOPICS LIKE IN SUCH TRANSITIONAL STATES!? but felt bad about it right after and now she's my friends girlfriend of many years and I feel a tinge of awkwardness for me and also for her inability to start conversations properly.

I'm excited to see Skyfall. Quantum of Solace was the worst Bond movie ever.

#9 Posted by Video_Game_King (36272 posts) -

@GERALTITUDE said:

@Video_Game_King: Oh my god.

I have to tell you that this one time, a long time ago, I was at work and girl came up to me and said, By the way, my name is Whatever. I froze and said HOW DO YOU START TOPICS LIKE IN SUCH TRANSITIONAL STATES!? but felt bad about it right after and now she's my friends girlfriend of many years and I feel a tinge of awkwardness for me and also for her inability to start conversations properly.

I'm excited to see Skyfall. Quantum of Solace was the worst Bond movie ever.

Are you trying to hook me up with ?

#10 Posted by GERALTITUDE (3429 posts) -

@Video_Game_King said:

@GERALTITUDE said:

@Video_Game_King: Oh my god.

I have to tell you that this one time, a long time ago, I was at work and girl came up to me and said, By the way, my name is Whatever. I froze and said HOW DO YOU START TOPICS LIKE IN SUCH TRANSITIONAL STATES!? but felt bad about it right after and now she's my friends girlfriend of many years and I feel a tinge of awkwardness for me and also for her inability to start conversations properly.

I'm excited to see Skyfall. Quantum of Solace was the worst Bond movie ever.

Are you trying to hook me up with ?

I wish I had that much to offer. It was just a true story that was the exact mirror of what took place here. !

#11 Edited by nintendoeats (5975 posts) -

@GERALTITUDE said:

Quantum of Solace was the worst Bond movie ever.

I would go one step further and call it the...second worst movie ever, behind Public Enemies (I have my reasons).

@Grimhild said:

What's all this I hear about Home Alone gags in it? Does he use a carpet of Micro Machines to thwart evil shadow companies embedded in certain government agencies? Because that would be pretty rad.

Something like that. That stuff doesn't come in till the end, but it's pretty rad.

#12 Posted by Doctorchimp (4078 posts) -

I thought it was really bad and kind of bland the whole way through.

It just reminded me of The Dark Knight Rises, and the ending was a waste.

#13 Posted by Clonedzero (4200 posts) -

@1momosauky said:

What does that even mean? How is he annoying

well in a vast majority of bond movies he's a cocky annoying womanizing douchebag without any depth or real redeeming character traits.

#14 Posted by Animasta (14712 posts) -

@Grimhild said:

What's all this I hear about Home Alone gags in it? Does he use a carpet of Micro Machines to thwart evil shadow companies embedded in certain government agencies? Because that would be pretty rad.

the last act of the movie is basically bond (+M +this old scottish guy) holding up in an old house vs. javier bardem and his band of merry men

#15 Posted by TooWalrus (13237 posts) -

I've heard!

#16 Posted by nintendoeats (5975 posts) -

@Doctorchimp said:

It just reminded me of The Dark Knight Rises, and the ending was a waste.

That is an astute observation: the director said that Christopher Nolan was a strong influence. Whether or not that is a good thing is, I suppose, a matter of taste.

(By the way, I don't actually know anything about movies. I just live with somebody who does and some of the information seeps in.)

#17 Posted by RedCricketChase (444 posts) -

Could a fellow member of the LGBT community answer me a Skyfall question: Is the Bid Bad of this movie one of those femme guy "queers are scary" type villains? I keep reading that he seems to be leaning that way, on film criticism sites, but those folks are sometimes oversensitive. Thanks!

#18 Posted by Doctorchimp (4078 posts) -

@nintendoeats said:

@Doctorchimp said:

It just reminded me of The Dark Knight Rises, and the ending was a waste.

That is an astute observation: the director said that Christopher Nolan was a strong influence. Whether or not that is a good thing is, I suppose, a matter of taste.

(By the way, I don't actually know anything about movies. I just live with somebody who does and some of the information seeps in.)

Well the thing is The Dark Knight Rises just came out like 3 months ago so I don't think the director was intentionally biting his story template. But I just kept getting Batman flashbacks the way he fought a villain that was better than him and he was too old. Also his family manor gets blown up...

#19 Posted by Animasta (14712 posts) -

@RedCricketChase said:

Could a fellow member of the LGBT community answer me a Skyfall question: Is the Bid Bad of this movie one of those femme guy "queers are scary" type villains? I keep reading that he seems to be leaning that way, on film criticism sites, but those folks are sometimes oversensitive. Thanks!

there's one scene that's kinda iffy but bond clearly doesn't take it too seriously so I thought it was all cool. I mean other than that he spends most of his time plotting and doing generic bad guy things and or being crazy.

#20 Posted by RedCricketChase (444 posts) -

Thanks, Ani!

#21 Posted by Yanngc33 (4496 posts) -

The question is, will it resist the Twilight invasion?

#22 Posted by Animasta (14712 posts) -

@Yanngc33 said:

The question is, will it resist the Twilight invasion?

I kinda want to see this one because it'll have the vampire birth thing, that shit was fucking hilarious in the book

less hilarious is the part where that little baby gets promised to the werewolf she spurned admittedly

#23 Posted by Deadlypixels (72 posts) -

Skyfall was better than Casino Royale, but Quantum Of Solace is not the worst Bond movie ever, Octopussy is.

#24 Posted by NTM (7480 posts) -

It was a fine movie, but it's far too cliche to be superb when it comes to films in general. It's a really great Bond film though. It being cliche is its biggest problem, while there are other small ones that hinder it as well. While I didn't exactly go in expecting anything in the way of "Wow, this is going to be great!" Or "Wow, this is going to suck big time." I still came out of it a bit disappointed.

#25 Edited by NTM (7480 posts) -

@Doctorchimp said:

@nintendoeats said:

@Doctorchimp said:

It just reminded me of The Dark Knight Rises, and the ending was a waste.

That is an astute observation: the director said that Christopher Nolan was a strong influence. Whether or not that is a good thing is, I suppose, a matter of taste.

(By the way, I don't actually know anything about movies. I just live with somebody who does and some of the information seeps in.)

Well the thing is The Dark Knight Rises just came out like 3 months ago so I don't think the director was intentionally biting his story template. But I just kept getting Batman flashbacks the way he fought a villain that was better than him and he was too old. Also his family manor gets blown up...

And awkwardly, the reveal at the end was somewhat reminiscent to Robin's, when Money Penny was revealed. It was almost the same camera view and set piece.

@RedCricketChase: Not really, there's just a scene in there to make the audience laugh since he mentions sex with another man, and Bond jokes about it as well.

#26 Posted by Doctorchimp (4078 posts) -

@NTM said:

@Doctorchimp said:

@nintendoeats said:

@Doctorchimp said:

It just reminded me of The Dark Knight Rises, and the ending was a waste.

That is an astute observation: the director said that Christopher Nolan was a strong influence. Whether or not that is a good thing is, I suppose, a matter of taste.

(By the way, I don't actually know anything about movies. I just live with somebody who does and some of the information seeps in.)

Well the thing is The Dark Knight Rises just came out like 3 months ago so I don't think the director was intentionally biting his story template. But I just kept getting Batman flashbacks the way he fought a villain that was better than him and he was too old. Also his family manor gets blown up...

And awkwardly, the reveal at the end was somewhat reminiscent to Robin's, when Money Penny was revealed. It was almost the same camera view and set piece.

Well I'm not that big of a Bond fan. But I did like From Russia with Love, so while that was awkward...the real awkward part was seeing James Bond make his way all the way up to Scotland after biting that classic Ashton Martin and trying to bring this whole James Bond superspy thing back around full circle, and oh they couldn't get Sean Connery to do that Scottish groundskeeper role. It's like this build up for a cameo that never happened.

#27 Posted by John1912 (1906 posts) -

Yea, didnt think the movie was all that great. Really could have used some better character development. I dont think the absurd hype for the film helped either. Having all the old Bonds comment and shit.

#28 Posted by TrulyAlive (900 posts) -

@GERALTITUDE said:

@Video_Game_King: Oh my god.

I'm excited to see Skyfall. Quantum of Solace was the worst Bond movie ever.

What about Die Another Day? *urgh*

#29 Posted by GERALTITUDE (3429 posts) -

Hey D Another D is bad, true, but Quantum of Solace is just such a flagrant offence. It's boring and horrible at the same time.

#30 Posted by Kyelb22 (298 posts) -

@GERALTITUDE: ...I liked Die Another Day :(

Haven't seen it in years, so I don't know if it holds up to my memories of it.

#31 Posted by Inkerman (1452 posts) -

I'm one of those people that misses the old, stupid Bond. If the villain isn't completely fucking crazy it's not a Bond movie. Skyfall was better than both the last two, but not as good as some of the classics.

#32 Edited by LiquidPrince (16012 posts) -

@GERALTITUDE said:

@Video_Game_King: Quantum of Solace was the worst Bond movie ever.

Quantum is my favorite Bond movie ever. If you think it's the worst, you probably haven't seen 80% of the other Bond movies.

#33 Posted by Sooty (8082 posts) -

"By the way,"

Just made me think of Klepek's style of writing and now I just feel annoyed. Stop that. :(

#34 Posted by probablytuna (3731 posts) -

So is it quite good or really good?

#35 Posted by JasonR86 (9742 posts) -

@nintendoeats:

There was a topic when it came out but I'm too lazy to find it.

As for the movie, I liked it but I have serious problems with it. The last act sucks. The home alone bit was irritating but the entire set up and pay off of the 'showdown' was stupid as shit. It made the bad guys look like bumbling idiots and James Bond look like the terminator. I also realize they were going for a throwback feel with the movie so my next few issues may not be issues for some people because they are basically issues with old Bond movies. But the double entendre was so fucking obnoxious. The over the top villain was obnoxious. The villain feeling up Bond was oddly old fashioned and just fucking weird. And there was more I just don't remember it right now.

That said, it was a good movie. I really like Daniel Craig as Bond. This movie was much more interesting then Quantum of Solace was but was no where near as good as Casino Royale. I also can't understand why people are fucking losing their shit over the movie. It was fine. A fun, entertaining, popcorn film. But it does not deserve the extraordinary praise it is getting.

#36 Edited by NTM (7480 posts) -

@Doctorchimp said:

@NTM said:

@Doctorchimp said:

@nintendoeats said:

@Doctorchimp said:

It just reminded me of The Dark Knight Rises, and the ending was a waste.

That is an astute observation: the director said that Christopher Nolan was a strong influence. Whether or not that is a good thing is, I suppose, a matter of taste.

(By the way, I don't actually know anything about movies. I just live with somebody who does and some of the information seeps in.)

Well the thing is The Dark Knight Rises just came out like 3 months ago so I don't think the director was intentionally biting his story template. But I just kept getting Batman flashbacks the way he fought a villain that was better than him and he was too old. Also his family manor gets blown up...

And awkwardly, the reveal at the end was somewhat reminiscent to Robin's, when Money Penny was revealed. It was almost the same camera view and set piece.

Well I'm not that big of a Bond fan. But I did like From Russia with Love, so while that was awkward...the real awkward part was seeing James Bond make his way all the way up to Scotland after biting that classic Ashton Martin and trying to bring this whole James Bond superspy thing back around full circle, and oh they couldn't get Sean Connery to do that Scottish groundskeeper role. It's like this build up for a cameo that never happened.

When you say you're not that big of a fan, do you mean you don't know who Money Penny is? Oh, and Sean Connery was supposed to make a cameo, but he didn't. I imagine that was going to be his role if so, and yes, the only reason I knew of that Aston Martin part was because I had read Roger Ebert's review beforehand, although I should have just guessed it was from one of the earlier films.

I like Bond a lot, but when I see the films it's mostly a longing for something better; there are some good ones, but overall I wish for something new, and this was pretty much it, but I was left disappointed because it didn't do everything right to me. I should mention that I pretty much like all the games minus a few (Goldeneye: Rogue Agent, although I did like it for a time, and I didn't like Agent Under Fire; I never played Tomorrow Never Dies, From Russia With Love, Bloodstone (although I'd like to) or the most recent Bond game, Legends).

#37 Posted by Doctorchimp (4078 posts) -

@NTM: No, I know she's the secretary. But I didn't know she was that big of a deal. Like I didn't realize she was in the all the old bonds. I just knew she was the secretary in From Russia.

Haha, I didn't even know Connery was supposed to have a cameo. It just felt so obvious to me when the groundskeeper showed up. But yeah Moneypenny didn't seem that big of a deal, but I did know about the Ashton Martin DB5 being the sort of classic Bond car.

#38 Posted by GetEveryone (4455 posts) -

@nintendoeats said:

@GERALTITUDE said:

Quantum of Solace was the worst Bond movie ever.

I would go one step further and call it the...second worst movie ever, behind Public Enemies (I have my reasons).

I think the issue with Quantum is that they tried to re-purpose the franchise in the same mold as Bourne, all the while tying up a story started in the previous movie.

Watched back to back with Casino Royale it works a lot better. It's something of a denouement to the plot lines established there, and works better as part of the same movie (rather than a sequel or stand-alone experience).

#39 Posted by TheSouthernDandy (3906 posts) -

@RedCricketChase said:

Could a fellow member of the LGBT community answer me a Skyfall question: Is the Bid Bad of this movie one of those femme guy "queers are scary" type villains? I keep reading that he seems to be leaning that way, on film criticism sites, but those folks are sometimes oversensitive. Thanks!

Well, I'm not a member of that community but I don't see why he should be offensive to anyone who is or isn't part of that community. He's flamboyant but they don't play that up as the reason he's bad. There's a scene where he tries to get under Bonds skin but I saw it as him playing on the fact that Bonds always after the ladies and using that to disarm him. And Bond just throws it right back which was pretty great.

Of course like i said, I'm not part of that community so I could be completely wrong.

#40 Posted by StrainedEyes (1326 posts) -

@GERALTITUDE said:

I'm excited to see Skyfall. Quantum of Solace was the worst Bond movie ever.

Uhh. That honor clearly goes to the piece of shit that is Die Another Day. Quantum was fine.

#41 Edited by Seppli (10251 posts) -

Seen it yesterday. Liked the opening action scene & animated intro. The rest was way too predictable and common to grip me. Too dry. Bloodless, both in the violence and sexiness department. Most of it was quite beautifully shot, as an upside - but also painfully dull.

I grew up with the Roger Moore Bond movies being on TV all the time, so Bond has to be silly and totally over-the-top for me. Unless I get a comically cliché supervillan building a moon fortress and stocking it with the finest earthly whores money and indoctrination can buy, it's just not my kind of Bond movie.

So yeah - Moonraker over Casino Royale for me. Thank you very much.

#42 Edited by Ghostiet (5289 posts) -

I loved it. Especially since it works as the anti-thesis of a modern action film that the Bourne series created - which mostly consists of tracing phones. I really loved the fact that high-end technology isn't up for shit and everyone succeeds only after going for the simplest solutions.

It only misses a few gadgets to be pure Bond, seriously. Craig was finally good, mixing a sociopath with that bit of Connery's chauvinism. Bardem's a great, cackling Bond villain. The action is fucking crazy enough. I like it. Especially after Quantum of Solace, one of the shittiest Bonds made.

#43 Edited by NTM (7480 posts) -

@Doctorchimp said:

@NTM: No, I know she's the secretary. But I didn't know she was that big of a deal. Like I didn't realize she was in the all the old bonds. I just knew she was the secretary in From Russia.

Haha, I didn't even know Connery was supposed to have a cameo. It just felt so obvious to me when the groundskeeper showed up. But yeah Moneypenny didn't seem that big of a deal, but I did know about the Ashton Martin DB5 being the sort of classic Bond car.

Well, don't worry, I haven't seen anyone else mention the similarity, although it's there, and I'm not sure if anyone considers her a big deal. She has been in a lot of Bond films; she's one of the recurring characters just like Q, though I believe less so. I haven't seen all the Bond films; most of them I've only seen in small fragments when it comes to the earlier ones, but I guess I know Bond well enough to know these somewhat smaller details. I think the characters change though 'cause a lot of the time (I think) the character's played by a different actress, which may mean in the canon it's a different person. If whatever I just said is untrue, and someone reads this, you can correct me, 'cause I'm not entirely sure.

#44 Posted by GERALTITUDE (3429 posts) -

you

See above: also, D Another D has the scene where Brosnan drives his super fast land-speed-breaking car over a cliff and onto frozen waters, but then uses a parachute and the hood of the car engine to para-surf to safety. Yeah! That scene is exactly why DAD is shit, but is still better than QOS.