Fuck this "Indie" shit

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#1  Edited By muttjones

Slap Indie on the front of any genre and it becomes like it was but slightly "alternative".  
 
What's with this fucking obsession of things being indie? How is some band such as Interpol "indie" when they're highly popular in not just an alternative sense but a mainstream sense as well? Indie means nothing.  
 
People put on skinny jeans or pick up a guitar and suddenly they're indie. No. It doesn't work that way.   

Big corporations are selling this indie thing back to us in terms of fashion and music because they noticed the trend of people moving away from RnB and rap music. So suddenly they take up the styles and "fuck corporations" attitude of that once small enclosed subculture and BAM, suddenly everything is indie. It is not a legitimate subculture. It's some guy in a suit noticing that The Strokes are pretty popular and so changed their company tactics to market that New York hipster style. Now every one that isn't into Rihanna or T-Pain gets a big fat indie sticker slapped on their forehead and suburban white kids turn their heads away from facebook for a second because they're interest has been peaked. 
 
I even buy into this whole "indie" thing with the some of the music and the dress and what ever. I just hate how people deny that it is totally a mainstream created thing these days. 
 
If everyone is indie, then isn't no one indie?
 
/rant    

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#2  Edited By pwnasaurus

your so indie with your rant about corporations, are you wearing skinny jeans?

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#3  Edited By SpiralStairs

I don't care what anyone says, Pavement was and still is the greatest indie band of all time.
 
Nobody can contest this claim. Slanted and Enchanted is a masterpiece.

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#4  Edited By Qdor

If you're not indie, FUCK YOU! *queue punch in the face*

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#5  Edited By SethPhotopoulos
@Qdor said:
" If you're not indie, FUCK YOU! *queue punch in the face* "
This
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@pwnasaurus said:
" your so indie with your rant about corporations, are you wearing skinny jeans? "
OWNED.
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#7  Edited By MiamiRedHawks
@SpiralStairs:  what about The Pixies?
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#8  Edited By vidiot

Hold on. 
Are you suggesting that guys in suits take advantage of cultural labels to better advertise their products? Thus diluting the original foundation of what was once a low-key, not mainstream label?  

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#9  Edited By BlastProcessing
@muttjones:
>Nolan North avatar
Sorry, you can't be taken seriously.
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#10  Edited By muttjones
@pwnasaurus: You may have missed my point. I'm bad mouthing the types of people who say "fuck corporations! I'm indie as fuck!" and then go down to Urban Outfitters or whatever and pick up that shirt they always wanted for the last 10 minutes all the while thinking "wow look how indie I am!". 
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#11  Edited By muttjones
@vidiot: Sounds pretty obvious doesn't it. Not to millions of people who think they're so independent they're untouchable. They walk around with they're smug faces on thinking they're the best because they're off doing they're own thing. 
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#12  Edited By sodiumCyclops

I can see your point, but these days 'indie' is more considered a sound or look rather than something actually being alternative to the main stream.

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#13  Edited By muttjones
@BlastProcessing: What have you got against Nolan North?
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#15  Edited By bonbolapti

Too bad the indie concept is being overshadowed by the 'indie' image, M I Rite?

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#16  Edited By muttjones
@sodiumCyclops: But the title means nothing. No one can sound independent nor can they look it when everyone dresses the same. It's a logical fallacy.
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#17  Edited By Levio

WHAT IS INDIE!?  Because it sure isn't "independent"!

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#18  Edited By Rxanadu
@BlastProcessing said:
" @muttjones: >Nolan North avatar Sorry, you can't be taken seriously. "
Good God.  He IS everywhere!
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#19  Edited By tallTuck94

 

 
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#20  Edited By LiquidS
@pwnasaurus said:

"your so indie with your rant about corporations, are you wearing skinny jeans? "


HAHA 
 
EDIT* It is the same with a lot of genres of music. If there is money to be made it will be corrupted because we let it be.
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#21  Edited By Aronman789

all i know about indie is that most of their music sucks, otherwise i know absolutely nothing.

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#22  Edited By xyzygy

Indie means independent. When a very popular band releases an album through a publisher that is independent, or even if they release the album on their own, that is what indie means. It doesn't matter if it's your friends next door or freaking Green Day. An example of this is Radiohead's "In Rainbows". When they first released the album over the internet, it was simply from their site with no publisher involved. That is technically considered indie. Although they signed the album with XL later on, In Rainbows was technically an indie album because they weren't relying on a huge company like Capitol or EMI. And even then, In Rainbows was XL's first release.
 
On the other hand, indie can also be a style of music as well. In that case you're simply describing the type of music and not the roots and fanbase of it. The reason that type of music became to be known as indie was through the surge of garage bands who had that garage-style sound, and then struggled to get signed to a large label. Since they had to settle for smaller labels or even release it through their own efforts, that type of music is called indie.

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#23  Edited By artofwar420

You've said it, it is the sickness called the poser. "Indie" is msntrm, that is the way of things. Something trendy becomes, over time, popular. That is the way of fashion, music, etc. 
 
But, there will always be artists that do things because they love it, not because it's cool.

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#24  Edited By Pinworm45

Indie is the new Goth, complete with the painfully unaware hypocrisy.

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#25  Edited By sociald1077

Same thing happened to Punk. Its sad, but inevitable when it comes to making money.

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#26  Edited By Pinworm45

Also I forgot to include  
 
YOU'RE SO INDIE THAT INDIE IS TOO MAINSTREAM FOR YOU

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#27  Edited By vaiz

Indie is like 'emo', in that it's been totally perverted from what it originally meant. Not that I'm saying emo is any better, it's just a similar issue. Indie means independent. If you are having your game or music or movie (et al) put out by a major publisher, you're not indie.

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#28  Edited By HypoXenophobia

"Underground labels know that I don't trust you. You're only independent till you're major"

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#29  Edited By iam3green

i agree, indie now is kind of mainstream of saying this band is good. it is more of a hipster type of thing to do, tight pants, tight everything, sunglasses, vegan.

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#30  Edited By muttjones
@xyzygy: I thought the roots of it was more in The Smiths fans making bands that sound like them and then struggled to make it in the early 2000s. But just because one sound largely made up of independent bands exists doesn't mean that that is the indie sound. A band signed to a major label could sound like the garage rock bands and they wouldn't be called indie ever (or perhaps they would be). The point is is that there cannot be a sound that means Independent for all it means is apart from the mainstream, something that seems to grow more and more as the mainstream becomes further focused on one demographic.
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#31  Edited By SpiralStairs
@MiamiRedHawks said:
" @SpiralStairs:  what about The Pixies? "
Surfer Rosa and Doolittle are great albums as well. 
 
Steve Albini is also an awesome man not only for producing Surfer Rosa but because Big Black is another great band.
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#32  Edited By HitmanAgent47

Agreed, fight the power.

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#33  Edited By JoeyIA

X-TR3M3 INDIE!!!!!!!11!!1!!1!

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#34  Edited By 71Ranchero

I would like indie music to go away. I would also like indie games to stop getting so much unwarranted hype.

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#35  Edited By Icemael

I don't know about music and fashion, but when it comes to video games, I find that "indie" is generally replaceable with "talentless" (when referring to the developers) and "crap" (when referring to the games).

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#36  Edited By Bruce
@muttjones:  
 
I can't help it man. It's just where I fit in. Lol.
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#37  Edited By BraveToaster

We should make our own thing....
 
Giantbomb, it isn't a trend. It's a way of life, Duder.

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#38  Edited By YoThatLimp

Oh hipsters, i can;t wait until this trend is over. 

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#39  Edited By Druminator

This irks me.

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#40  Edited By gunslingerNZ
@Metalideth: What trend do you want it to be replaced with? Seriously there's always got to be something for sheeple to obsess over and indie is no more obnoxious than emo, goth, punk, grunge and other musical/cultural trends of the past.
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#41  Edited By GrandpaJelly

psst It's indie to not be hip, just like it's hip to not be cool. Cool=hip.

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#42  Edited By Lemoncookie01

 You called?
 You called?
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#43  Edited By YoThatLimp
@gunslingerNZ said:
" @Metalideth: What trend do you want it to be replaced with? Seriously there's always got to be something for sheeple to obsess over and indie is no more obnoxious than emo, goth, punk, grunge and other musical/cultural trends of the past. "
Yeah, I guess. I long for a world where people can listen to music and not dress like tards. If your over 16 and still have the need to dress to your "Scene" you should "DIAF".
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#44  Edited By Devil240Z

I dont follow popular anything. If something is good I rock it. but I dont have a radio or cable tv so im kind of out of the loop. 

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#45  Edited By Levio

Giant Bomb is so indie.

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#46  Edited By ch3burashka
@SethPhotopoulos said:
" @Qdor said:
" If you're not indie, FUCK YOU! *queue punch in the face* "
This "
No, this
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#47  Edited By Anund
@HypoXenophobia said:

" "Underground labels know that I don't trust you. You're only independent till you're major" "

Funny, this discussion made me think of Immortal Technique as well! 
 
  
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#48  Edited By Ryax

this is so stupid

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#49  Edited By AhmadMetallic
@sodiumCyclops said:
" I can see your point, but these days 'indie' is more considered a sound or look rather than something actually being alternative to the main stream. "
/thread ?
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#50  Edited By dfsvegas
@muttjones: To me, indie means not haven't creativity constrained by things like focus groups and other people who have no business making creative decisions.