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#1 Edited by Mikemcn (6942 posts) -

I've followed Ryan Davis on many a strange and disturbing music journey, from his love of Kreayshawn to Chippy non-stop and beyond. But on the most recent bombcast he pledged his honest appreciation for the works of one "Riff-Raff". Being a boring white college student from the northeast, I had no idea who that was so I looked him up and discovered who he was.

I've listened to plenty of white rappers before but listening to this guy made me realize he was truly something, Unique? I honestly don't find myself bothered by his music, I wasn't offended like Ryan was with Brokencyde (Although, everyone should be offended by brokencyde, its just terrible.) I just couldn't understand the purpose of it. His lyrics were sound kind of like the babbling of the insane, he dresses in a way I don't understand and his fellow rappers are equally strange.Maybe he is having fun like Ryan says, maybe he's just out of his god damn mind.

I can't believe Ryan when he says he un-ironically enjoys listening to his guy, MTV tattoos and all. Is there something i'm missing, is it a big joke? Why does he have 40,000 likes on facebook? Is anyone else as confused as I am about this guy?

#2 Edited by Humanity (8729 posts) -

I assume some people are attracted to the ridiculous persona and stay for the music. There were plenty of times when I ended up liking songs a lot because I enjoyed the music videos for them - have I heard just the songs I probably wouldn't have given them a second listen. I guess it's the same thing with Riff Raff. IF no one saw any of the videos and heard just the songs then it's a lot of incoherent babbling set to mediocre beats.

#3 Edited by Cheesebob (1230 posts) -

Why do people like Lil' B and Lil' Wayne? There is no accounting for taste

#4 Posted by Mikemcn (6942 posts) -

@humanity said:

I assume some people are attracted to the ridiculous persona and stay for the music. There were plenty of times when I ended up liking songs a lot because I enjoyed the music videos for them - have I heard just the songs I probably wouldn't have given them a second listen. I guess it's the same thing with Riff Raff. IF no one saw any of the videos and heard just the songs then it's a lot of incoherent babbling set to mediocre beats.

The videos are pretty entertaining. But if you pay attention to the actual song behind the video, it turns into, what I imagine, a stroke sounds like.

#5 Posted by Demoskinos (14524 posts) -

RAP GAME WHITE GRIMACE SON.

#6 Posted by Humanity (8729 posts) -

@mikemcn: Like I said, people like the persona and almost incidentally stay for the music.

As a side note I doubt Ryan does anything unironically ever, so no worries.

#7 Posted by Ben_H (3296 posts) -

RAP GAME WHITE GRIMACE SON.

RAP GAME KING TUT

#8 Edited by Barrabas (325 posts) -

I'm not sure Riff Raff gets Riff Raff. Either that or he gets it too much.

#9 Posted by MarkM (288 posts) -

Can I please show you something awesome?

#10 Edited by BaneFireLord (2908 posts) -

@mikemcn said:

I wasn't offended like Ryan was with Brokencyde (Although, everyone should be offended by brokencyde, its just terrible.)

So I had completely forgotten about Ryan mentioning Brokencyde until you brought it up here. I just listened to three seconds of their song Freaxxx and literally am feeling somewhat nauseous.

#11 Posted by MarkM (288 posts) -

CANADIAN LUNCH MONEY.

#12 Edited by Little_Socrates (5675 posts) -

One, Ryan said he was close to enjoying Riff Raff unironically.

Two, there's no such thing as "enjoying something ironically," there's just not having the confidence to like what you like.

Three, he's not a TERRIBLE rapper, he's got lots of recognizable friends, and his beats don't sound like everyone else's. His lyrics are nonsensical, but he sounds like he's having fun, which helps a lot. It's the same reason I can kind of get into 2 Chainz and Big Sean, too; they don't have GREAT lyrics or anything, but they're being them and having fun doing it, and I can get behind that.

Four, the James Franco character in Spring Breakers is basically Riff Raff, and he's incredible.

EDIT: FIVE. HE HAS AN ALBUM NAMED RIFF RAFF LIVE: TRIBUTE TO AC/DC AND IT INCLUDES COVERS OF THUNDERSTRUCK, SHOT DOWN IN FLAMES, AND LET THERE BE ROCK. THIS ALBUM IS ON SPOTIFY.

#13 Posted by posh (457 posts) -

you've probably already heard orion's belt, but i genuinely think that's a really good song. kitty pryde does a lot for it but riff raff's verse is solid. sure his persona helps and he's clearly a funny guy but i don't think his rapping is bad by any means. he reminds me of a white danny brown flow-wise, probably a bit faster. do you listen to much hip-hop generally? there isn't really any hip-hop i don't like unless it's just boring. i think lil b has really well produced material and actively enjoy a lot of lil wayne's music, but mostly i listen to beastie boys, frank ocean, el-p, M.I.A., mf doom and ghostface killah as far as hip-hop and rap goes.

#14 Posted by Milkman (16486 posts) -

It's not about his music. It's about the persona. I don't actively listen to his music but his personality and ridiculous antics are endlessly entertaining.

#15 Posted by Demoskinos (14524 posts) -

@posh: "Your girlfriend's vagina smells like bumblebee tuna" is one of the single funniest lines an any rap don't ever. Orion's Belt is so amazing. I like Michelle Obama too.

#16 Posted by EuanDewar (4693 posts) -

DIAMONDS ON MY BINDER, FOURTH GRADE I WAS IMMACULATE

#17 Edited by EvilNiGHTS (1093 posts) -

It's the persona. Vocal delivering and writing aren't great, but he's enjoying himself and doesn't take himself overly seriously at all. I've seen people dislike the music of Andrew WK but give him a pass because he obviously loves what he's doing. This isn't so different.

#18 Edited by Colourful_Hippie (4328 posts) -

@markm said:

Can I please show you something awesome?

I was about to say "right on, OP", but as soon as I saw the guy pop up in here I immediately understood Ryan's reasoning.

#19 Posted by laserbolts (5310 posts) -

Maybe Ryan just has shitty taste.

#21 Posted by Little_Socrates (5675 posts) -

@little_socrates said:

One, Ryan said he was close to enjoying Riff Raff unironically.

Two, there's no such thing as "enjoying something ironically," there's just not having the confidence to like what you like.

This is my favorite post because god damn is it ever true. I don't get why it's so hard to just say, "Hey, I like this thing that some other people might not like or see as something that should be made fun of!"

Right on, Polly, right on.

#22 Posted by Dalai (6980 posts) -

@laserbolts said:

Maybe Ryan just has shitty taste.

The shittiest of taste.

#23 Posted by ZombieSpace (286 posts) -

Riff Raff is amazing.

#24 Posted by Linkster7 (1009 posts) -

I think should rather talk about this Riff Raff instead. He's astounding

#25 Posted by SeanCoughing (261 posts) -

@markm: Well i'm sold on his persona at least, the "fragile like a panda egg" part had me laughing pretty hard. Ryan said something about him wearing a throwback Denver Nuggets jersey, is he a fan of them or NBA as a whole?

#26 Edited by Andorski (5179 posts) -

This Riff Raff individual is just a good troll, right?

#27 Posted by Everyones_A_Critic (6285 posts) -

It's just like Lil' B, it's ignant stupid music that shouldn't be taken seriously. Riff Raff is in a rap group with Andy Milonakis for fucks' sake, the man is a joke and he's made a damn good living off of being so.

#28 Posted by Ben_H (3296 posts) -

@andorski said:

This Riff Raff individual is just a good troll, right?

From my understanding, yes.

#29 Posted by GreggD (4475 posts) -

It's the persona. Vocal delivering and writing aren't great, but he's enjoying himself and doesn't take himself overly seriously at all. I've seen people dislike the music of Andrew WK but give him a pass because he obviously loves what he's doing. This isn't so different.

Lemme tell you something. Ain't nothing wrong with Andrew W.K.

#30 Edited by jediknight00719 (138 posts) -

I actually found out about riff raff first from the music and then stayed for the persona. This was the first song i heard about because i follow the producer Harry Fraud.

I remember listening to an interview of his saying he doesn't like being in the studio. But somehow he has been associated with some big acts. He is signed under Diplo's label, Mad Decent. Regardless of the persona which is fun, he does put out good music from time to time.

#31 Posted by EvilNiGHTS (1093 posts) -

@greggd said:

@evilnights said:

It's the persona. Vocal delivering and writing aren't great, but he's enjoying himself and doesn't take himself overly seriously at all. I've seen people dislike the music of Andrew WK but give him a pass because he obviously loves what he's doing. This isn't so different.

Lemme tell you something. Ain't nothing wrong with Andrew W.K.

Certainly not from my point of view, but when he broke onto the scene in 2001 he was utterly polarising.

#32 Posted by Nev (539 posts) -

I'd never heard of the dude until Ryan and Jeff began talking about him. To be honest, he scares the ever-living shit out of me.

#33 Edited by Vinny_Says (5681 posts) -

One time he did a song with Action Bronson and it worked. That's the only time I've understood or appreciated anything he's done.

#34 Posted by TooWalrus (13132 posts) -

Ryan un-ironically adores black velvet paintings. Love the guy to death, but his taste seems to be the polar opposite of mine on just about every topic.

#35 Edited by ShaggE (6300 posts) -

I haven't heard him, but from what I can tell, it's a similar deal to Die Antwoord: Weird, mediocre rap that's elevated to legend status just by being completely batshit insane and hilariously entertaining.

#36 Posted by GreggD (4475 posts) -

@greggd said:

@evilnights said:

It's the persona. Vocal delivering and writing aren't great, but he's enjoying himself and doesn't take himself overly seriously at all. I've seen people dislike the music of Andrew WK but give him a pass because he obviously loves what he's doing. This isn't so different.

Lemme tell you something. Ain't nothing wrong with Andrew W.K.

Certainly not from my point of view, but when he broke onto the scene in 2001 he was utterly polarising.

Definitely. His most recent work is very mature, though. Basically everything off of 55 Cadillac and Mother of Mankind are my favorite of his songs. Oh, and Never Let Down, from The Wolf is so damn good. He really is amazing on piano.

#37 Posted by Sackmanjones (4650 posts) -

Wow, I went to check out brokencyde and good fucking lord is that music a pile of garbage. China even cares how shitty that music is.

As for Riff Raff, I don't really listen to rap but I can definitely see the reasoning of he's just having fun and I say hey go for it pal

#38 Edited by Demoskinos (14524 posts) -

@sackmanjones: Brokencyde is really the only "band" and I use that term loosely that I would every really scratch my head why anyone liked. Even if I don't like something I'm usually pretty open to understanding why or how someone could like something but that music is just straight up trash.

#39 Posted by ThePickle (4153 posts) -

He's not that bad. Not hard to get.

#41 Posted by development (2003 posts) -

It's hilarious. It's a guy taking his personality and exaggerating it to the extreme.

For shit's sake, one of his hit videos is him laying on the ground while a girl puts Pringles on him:

#42 Posted by JayEH (516 posts) -

You don't get Riff Raff, he gets you.

#43 Posted by audioBusting (1467 posts) -

I've never listened to any of his music, but his Twitter feed is pretty entertaining.

#44 Posted by Ravenlight (8040 posts) -

Okay, so he's basically taking the piss out of hip-hop culture while cross-dressing?

#45 Posted by Omega (828 posts) -

When I saw in the description of the last bombcast that "Jeff loves Riff Raff" I was super excited because I thought they were going to be talking about the Rocky Horror Picture Show. I had never heard of the rapper. I was super disappointed when I listened to it. But it was still a good episode.

#46 Posted by JayDee (439 posts) -

he's self aware and that's what makes it enjoyable. riff raff knows how ridiculous he is, while most rappers don't realize how ridiculous they are or can be.

#47 Edited by Sackmanjones (4650 posts) -

@demoskinos: definitely know what you're saying, everyone has different tastes and that's cool. I'm not a big fan of country or rap but I can respect those artists and see why people enjoy their music However, I can't think of a single person I know that would be remotely interested in what Brokencyde are doing. The bombast was the first place I've heard of them and I hope it's the last place I do

#48 Edited by RenegadeDoppelganger (406 posts) -

@jediknight00719 said:

I actually found out about riff raff first from the music and then stayed for the persona. This was the first song i heard about because i follow the producer Harry Fraud.

I remember listening to an interview of his saying he doesn't like being in the studio. But somehow he has been associated with some big acts. He is signed under Diplo's label, Mad Decent. Regardless of the persona which is fun, he does put out good music from time to time.

Yeah I think it was this video that did it for me. I remember watching Dirt Nasty and Andy Milonakis hang out with this guy in some random youtube videos from last year and he just seemed like a total joker, never really taking himself or anything else seriously. I think Ryan and Jeff mentioned that is one of the reason they really like Riff Raff. There are rappers today who are overly serious about their persona and they're obsessed with ensuring everyone knows how 'real' they are. Much like Odd Future, Riff is part of a new wave of hip hop that rejects that whole self-serious attitude. It's really refreshing to see dudes genuinely enjoying themselves and having fun with their music instead or feeling like someone is getting in your face about how hard they are. Sure he's a weird dude with poor impulse control and a serious undiagnosed case of ADHD but he's fascinating and rap needs more weird outlandish characters.

#49 Posted by Jams (2959 posts) -

I must be getting old. I don't know who any of these chucklefucks are and I really don't want to.

#50 Edited by RenegadeDoppelganger (406 posts) -

Riff Raff is amazing.

This is incredible. I had not seen this before. Thank you.