MIT shooting cause this week hasn't sucked enough

Okay i'm getting mass replies...I made it sound wrong, its not like I am not sympathetic...

My only disagreement was with someone telling people to fuck off(in a rude way I might add) just because something happened close to him. If every time I felt fear I told people to fuck off, I would be banned by now. This is the internet, have your expectations right.

Yeah, some outlets think guy who I saw getting released is actual suspect while other are reporting that the suspect in custody is either dead or wounded.

Two local stations:

http://livewire.wcvb.com/Event/117th_Running_of_Boston_Marathon

http://www1.whdh.com/video/7newslive

This thread started out as a bummer and then just got worse. So much hate for all the wrong reasons.

It's okay, but I feel I did not tell people to "fuck off," nor do I believe it was rude.

My use of expletives is because of passion, not anger. I hate seeing people be so fervent about being morally "right" in these kinds of arguments, and was asking for both sides to calm themselves and shut up (lack of "fuck" this time).

Edit: Let's take the focus away from this now, and bring it back to what matters - whether the police, and civilians, will be okay.

NBC News is reporting that explosive material and pressure cookers were recovered at the scene in Watertown. (items that were used in the Boston marathon bombing)

This could be incorrect, but they seem pretty confident in their source. Plus, locals appear to be confirming this, as well.

News is coming a little fast at this point. So, maybe we should slow down a tad on updates like this.

Yup, bombs found. NYT says that when they got in shootout with the police they lit a bomb and threw it at the officers, but it was too heavy, it exploded, one guy charged the police while the second guy fled, that is when the got the first suspect in custody.

Are you watching on TV or a stream? If a stream you have a link?

And yeah I'm just getting super confused at this point. So much info coming in and a lot of it is probably false.

I posted two streaming links to local news stations earlier in the thread. The police scanner stream I was listening to just crashed though. Probably too much traffic.

@kishinfoulux:Theres a live stream here http://www.wbur.org/listen/live

Also a lot of info on those 2 twitter accounts of reporters on site:

https://twitter.com/sethmnookin

https://twitter.com/MichaelSkolnik

I am not proclaiming any moral dominance but why can you tell people to shut up just because something happened around you? In GB i'm used to people arguing these things, yet for no particular reason this time its taboo. Its like you want to censor the internet because its close to you, if you can't deal with people discussing this then don't come online. No disrespect meant. People are well aware that people have died, that doesn't mean we should not have rational conversations about it.

@fengshuigod: Yeah, looks like some conflicting reports on that. Which, well, isn't surprising for local news. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see. After that gunfight though, I'd be surprised if neither suspect was dead or injured.

Take this shit somewhere else. All of you.

Shamelessly pasted from EatedIt on this Reddit http://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/1cnwms/mods_removed_thread_live_updates_of_boston/

Police scanner feeds

• tunein Police scanner feed here (most reliable)
• mp3 Police scanner feed here
• broadcastify Police scanner feed here
• Cambridge/Watertown Police scanner feed here
• Middlesex Police scanner feed here

Audio news feeds (Boston)

• Listen to WBZ News Radio 1030

Video News Feeds

• Watch local WHDH live here
• Watch local WCVB live here
• Watch MSNBC live here
• Watch CNN live here
• Watch FOX news live here
• Watch AlJazeera English live here

News feeds

• New photos of suspects
• Google News real-time feed
• BostonSituation.org Google Doc (see comment by /u/speedbreezehere)
• CNN liveblog

Informative articles

• NYTimes: Explosives Detonated in Massachusetts Standoff

Twitter feeds of on-site people

• [Live Collection of Watertown twitter feeds
• [Live Collection of Cambridge/Boston twitter feeds
• Live Collection of Watertown/MIT posts
• https://twitter.com/sethmnookin
• https://twitter.com/MichaelSkolnik
• https://twitter.com/AKitz
• https://twitter.com/SeanKellyTV

Maps of locations

• Detailed, live-updated map of incident (thanks, /u/shoguante)
• Watertown, MA

Recordings of events

• Video of shooting in front of house
• Video of emergency response on Mass Ave Memorial Drive, Harvard
• Photo of bullets holes inside house
• Photo of Boston SWAT jumping off armored vehicle on Arsenal Street

Local news feed. http://www1.whdh.com/video/7newslive/

Police Scanner. http://tunein.com/radio/Boston-Police-Fire-and-EMS-Scanner-s146109/

This whole thing is absolutely nuts. If you're following the news, my suggestion would be to turn off the TV and getting on Twitter and/or Reddit. The major news networks are absurdly behind. CNN still says they don't know if Watertown is connected to MIT or the Boston Marathon. It's fairly evident that they're all connected. One bombing suspect (the guy in the black hat) seems to have been killed with the white hat guy still on loose and an active manhunt is ongoing for him.

There's going to be a news conference in Watertown soon.

I'm watching and checking a few things. Some CNN, Huffington Post, and a few others. No Twitter, though, as that's just madness.

Word seems to be that Suspect One is dead, Suspect Two is being chased down, and both are the marathon bombers.

Based on local Boston news channel.

Police said they are setting up a perimeter, area locked down, they are gonna wait for daylight, and do a house by house search.

That Seth Mnookin guy is now on CNN being interviewed.

They also said that the naked guy and another guy in custody were one in the same. Sounds like some other info, but being withheld. I guess they want to make sure it's legit.

Bust out the noose.

Here is another scanner http://tunein.com/radio/Boston-Police-Fire-and-EMS-Scanner-s146109/

I think it's reasonable to follow sources like CNN instead. Twitter and Reddit are just mass speculation and false reporting. Major news networks may be "behind", but they're at least not ahead of themselves or spreading endless misinformation. No one but a nearby resident directly effected by this has any reason for second by second rumor posting.

I'm relatively young so I gotta ask, has it always been like this in the US? Guns here are freaking rare, when someone gets shot, which seldom happens, it's more shocking that the shooter had a weapon than the fact than a person got shot (I'm exaggerating), but it sounds like it's some kind of norm in the US that normal everyday people get shot to death... has this been a part of US culture for long?

Anyway, I hope this new shooting doesn't end badly.

No, Reddit has been right all night, CNN has said lots of stuff that is outright wrong and full of speculation.

Wow thanks for all that Feng. And to be fair to the proper new sites, they are definitely behind but are trying to verify things and not spread rumors like Twitter is.

Quoting myself because.

Reddit has access to the police scanners. Officers on the scanners just said that they're going to wait for daylight to continue their search for the white hat guy.

At best they are behind and I can respect that, but some (mostly cable news stations) are filling dead air time with speculation and have reported things throughout the night that have since been proven false.

fuck my Uni network most of that shit is blocked... didn't this thread begin like four hours ago? How is this still happening?

Yes, shootings happen daily, but rarely are things this bad or receive this much media attention.

That depends on what you consider the official position of Reddit, but whatever. I know some people like that kind of thing. I just think it's understandable for news outlets to be reticent to jump to unconfirmed conclusions.

Being behind to wait for confirmed reports is one thing, filling air time with speculation because you have no new info and reporting conflicting stories or reporting things which are later proven wrong is another. CNN was doing absolutely laughable stuff earlier. I turned them off, doubt they have gotten better.

CNN should be taking notes from the local news in Boston, they seem to actually be waiting to make sure the information they have is true before releasing it.

I was literally about to post this. WCVB5 has been fairly dead on all night.

Gah, I have to go to class in three hours. Guess I'll have to function on no sleep tonight. There is no way I will be able to sleep without seeing the outcome.

Cops are waiting for sunrise and disarming bombs thrown by the suspects.

It depends, but generally, no. This is an outlier. Big explosive attacks aren't very common, and big shootouts like the one seen tonight are not common around the nation. It's a big country though; so, it varies a lot across the nation. In some areas, it's unlikely to see many guns, and in some other places, it's a little less surprising. Though, heavy weaponry actually used in a crime is still rare. What's going on in Boston right now is extremely rare.

I live in Texas, a state known for its gun ownership, but even here, you don't see anything like this often. It's pretty unreal. You may see handguns used for some personal crimes, but this kind of heavy weaponry or explosives stuff is just ridiculous. I know it's getting attention right now, but it's really not as common as it may appear.

Right now, they're reporting that police have the area locked down and they will be going door to door in Watertown.

They are also saying that a controlled detonation by the bomb squad will be occurring soon.

These guys had automatic weapons, which are illegal. Last time someone engaged police like this (that I can remember) was the Hollywood shootouts in 97.

Crowd sourced map of the area and points of interest: https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=200082141349599835237.0004daaf434ba5147dce8&msa=0&iwloc=A

Don't forget Dorner, that shit was nuts as well.

The police have announced they'll be going door to door, so there's a chance you'll be following this madness during your class.

I feel you man, I'm not stoked to face my classes tomorrow haha.

Man this shit is scary. I live around the mile mark from the finish line of the marathon (college dorm, not rich lol) and I know people who live/lived/have family in Watertown :( Fortunately everyone I know is ok but this shit is messed up. Apparently the police are going door to door to catch the last guy now?

A home is lit up with spotlights, cops think suspect tripped motion sensor and locked himself in a hosue, looks like we might not have to wait until sunrise.

EDIT: Boston commissioner tweets that suspect 1 is dead.

Yeah, it's pretty nuts. Though, to my knowledge, automatic firearms are legal to some extent, just highly regulated(and varies state to state). Still, I'm guessing these guys probably owned illegal firearms, as I don't believe the firearms they probably used are legal in Massachusetts. Wouldn't be too surprising that people illegally making explosives might also have purchased illegal guns as well. Still crazy.

I understand why they would wait until day, but I feel like that's just giving the guy time to escape. They seem so close.

Also listening to the scanners is sort of chilling. Also sucks that suspect 1 is dead. That's too easy for him. Hopefully they take the other alive.

Depends. Something on this scale (grenades, automatic weapons, bombings) are rare, especially in the parts of the cities they occurred in. It really depends on where you live. Most places are safe, and I for example only know 1 person with a gun (hunting rifle, for hunting obviously), and murders are rare/never occur. In other places, such like the South Side of Chicago where I'm from, statistically suffer/have suffered more deaths than US soldiers in Afghanistan/Iraq have (500 something in a year) in bad neighborhoods with gangs and such. But based on your description of how guns are wherever you live, it's certainly easier to get a gun here/it's less unheard of than wherever you are. Guns actually being used against other people are rare though.

Basically what I'm trying to say is that my perception of foreigners' perceptions about guns in America is that shit pops off all time time, and that basically nowhere is safe, and that's not true at all. I have never felt personally in danger in my life. The stuff that I'm guessing you guys are seeing that leads you to this perception, like gangster movies and news stories like this, are rare or dramatized or only occur in certain parts of the country. As I said before something on this scale, like a shootout and grenades and multiple bombs, has been up to this point unheard of.

Yeah, listening in on the scanner is pretty eerie. I hope they can get this fucker, and he doesn't off himself like the coward he is.

Interesting. I saw that. Hopefully they can get the second so he can face justice.