Swedish government blocks wikileaks.org DNS due to US pressure

  
Wow. The DNS for wikileaks.org just got taken down. What a blatant act of censorship by Sweden and by the United States government! And I voted for Barack Obama thinking he was a DEMOCRAT. What a shame, turns out the Democratic Party is as disgustingly fascist as the Republican Party. The political left needs a reverse spectrum version of the Tea Party movement, imo. 
 
Oh well, fortunately wikileaks is hosted in 507 locations. Have fun trying to censor it, fascist pigs: http://wikileaks.ch/mirrors.html. All this goes to show is that the US government and its allies really are the dystopian, authoritarian Big Brothers we always thought they were. It's a shame really, I was so happy when Obama got elected over McCain, but he turned out to be a conservative behind a progressive mask. 
 
On the bright side, I'm sure I'm not the first person to be disillusioned by a fake democracy. Everyone who lived through the Vietnam war debacle probably felt the same way as I do now.
 
Edit: Apparently the DNS is down because of a DDOS attack, not because of the service provider. I immediately assumed the guilt of Sweden and of the US government because they've been so verbally opposed to the leaks and subsequently to freedom of information. But think about it... exactly who would want to bring down the wikileaks DNS? I'd speculate that it isn't just some cyber-vandal.

Fucking moderates ;(
 
EDIT: The OP is a big meanie, who scared me needlessly ;(

Pussies.

I'm Swedish, and I honestly couldn't give less fucks about that pretentious cunt Julian Assange and whether he gets what he wants or not. This was expected, either way. 
 
 
@TheSeductiveMoose said:

" Fucking moderates ;( "

" Fucking moderates ;( "

" I'm Swedish, and I couldn't honestly give less fucks about that pretentious cunt Julian Assange and whether he gets what he wants or not. This was expected, either way. "

" Fucking moderates ;( "

" I'm Swedish, and I couldn't honestly give less fucks about that pretentious cunt Julian Assange and whether he gets what he wants or not. This was expected, either way. "

Now if only the USA would put as much effort into finding Osama Bin Laden as they are investing in this WikiLeaks fiasco.

Foreign politics is confusing...

" Foreign politics is confusing... "

You're grossly misinformed. The DNS server for wikileaks.org hosted in Sweden is currently under attack by a denial-of-service (DDOS) attack and their server administrators are looking in to how to remedy the situation. The US did not pressure them to shut down the servers, nor are they shut down.

" Now if only the USA would put as much effort into finding Osama Bin Laden as they are investing in this WikiLeaks fiasco. "

" You're grossly misinformed. The DNS server for wikileaks.org hosted in Sweden is currently under attack by a denial-of-service (DDOS) attack and their server administrators are looking in to how to remedy the situation. The US did not pressure them to shut down the servers, nor are they shut down. "

Huh, I too can not go to the site...

" @Hamz said:

" Now if only the USA would put as much effort into finding Osama Bin Laden as they are investing in this WikiLeaks fiasco. "

We're too busy killing Afghan freedom fighters to bother actually hunting down the man we supposedly went into Afghanistan 9 years ago to catch.
 
@benjaebe said:

" You're grossly misinformed. The DNS server for wikileaks.org hosted in Sweden is currently under attack by a denial-of-service (DDOS) attack and their server administrators are looking in to how to remedy the situation. The US did not pressure them to shut down the servers, nor are they shut down. "

Meh, just like Julian Assange actually committed rape. I'll eat my words if the DNS server comes back up, I guess. "

US Government says its dangerous to the world!!! Yet not one single fucking death linked to these leaks has happened. 
Wasting time and money yet AGAIN censoring something they cant censor. Retards.

I couldn't care less about the embassy memos that were leaked(some were kind of funny to me), but the strategic locations leak is a fuckup by Wikileaks. That's going too far. It's not free speech at that point, you're handing people targets...

It's only DNS... You can still connect to it using the IP by entering the address in your address bar. Ala 213.251.145.96

" You're grossly misinformed. The DNS server for wikileaks.org hosted in Sweden is currently under attack by a denial-of-service (DDOS) attack and their server administrators are looking in to how to remedy the situation. The US did not pressure them to shut down the servers, nor are they shut down. "

" @Bones8677 said:

" Foreign politics is confusing... "

All politics are confusing. "

Also, I'm pretty sure the server is Swiss, not Swedish. Basing this off the fact that he recently moved his site to a Swiss provider.

" I couldn't care less about the embassy memos that were leaked(some were kind of funny to me), but the strategic locations leak is a fuckup by Wikileaks. That's going too far. It's not free speech at that point, you're handing people targets... "

Where was your outrage during the Bush presidency? You know, the one who was actually a fascist? 
All this WikiLeaks drama is doing is putting the atrocities committed during the Bush presidency on the shoulders of our current administration. 
I'm all for transparency, but take a step back and think about who benefits from this. This is not altruism.

" @Synaptic said:

" I couldn't care less about the embassy memos that were leaked(some were kind of funny to me), but the strategic locations leak is a fuckup by Wikileaks. That's going too far. It's not free speech at that point, you're handing people targets... "

Do you have any proof of this? "

link

EDIT: I want to clarify my position. They have a right to say and do whatever they want, which includes releasing information they receive. But this was a bad decision by them.

Love me some conspiracy theories! Yeah! Fuck the government! Never mind the fact that without the government, you'd have fucking nothing. God, I love the smell of self-righteous, uninformed fury in the morning.

" Love me some conspiracy theories! Yeah! Fuck the government! Never mind the fact that without the government, you'd have fucking nothing. God, I love the smell of self-righteous, uninformed fury in the morning. "

"   
 And I voted for Barack Obama thinking he was a DEMOCRAT. What a shame, turns out the Democratic Party is as disgustingly fascist as the Republican Party. The political left needs a reverse spectrum version of the Tea Party movement, imo. 
 
was so happy when Obama got elected over McCain, but he turned out to be a conservative behind a progressive mask.

" Also, I'm pretty sure the server is Swiss, not Swedish. Basing this off the fact that he recently moved his site to a Swiss provider. "

The fact that Obama's administration is trying to silence WikiLeaks does not, in any way, make him a conservative in disguise. "

" Where was your outrage during the Bush presidency? You know, the one who was actually a fascist? 
All this WikiLeaks drama is doing is putting the atrocities committed during the Bush presidency on the shoulders of our current administration. 
I'm all for transparency, but take a step back and think about who benefits from this. This is not altruism. "

Once the RFP response is in, we should be prepared to
raise the FX2 at every high level contact with Brazil. There
has been a perception that USG support is weak that needs to
be countered. The most effective way of doing so would be to
have President Obama make a strong statement advocating the
Super Hornet to President Lula at the earliest opportunity.

" @jmrwacko said:

"   
 And I voted for Barack Obama thinking he was a DEMOCRAT. What a shame, turns out the Democratic Party is as disgustingly fascist as the Republican Party. The political left needs a reverse spectrum version of the Tea Party movement, imo. 
 
was so happy when Obama got elected over McCain, but he turned out to be a conservative behind a progressive mask.

No offense, but these are statements of ignorance. There's nothing "Conservative" or "Republican" about censoring things or withhold information, and people are foolish to think otherwise. That's a problem with the government as a whole (if indeed it is a problem worth seriously addressing), not any one political party. The fact that Obama's administration is trying to silence WikiLeaks does not, in any way, make him a conservative in disguise. "

Agreed. Being an American means supporting free speech, even if it doesn't agree with your views. Not an American in the national sense, but as an ideal. At least that's what I was brought up believing.

@jmrwacko said:

" @Suicidal_SNiper said:

" Also, I'm pretty sure the server is Swiss, not Swedish. Basing this off the fact that he recently moved his site to a Swiss provider. "

Really? I had read that he was speculating moving the site to a Swiss provider but didn't, and I just went to the wikipedia article and there's a linked article there claiming wikileaks is now being hosted in France. I'm not entirely sure now where the DNS is hosted >.> "

" @HandsomeDead said:

" @Synaptic said:

" I couldn't care less about the embassy memos that were leaked(some were kind of funny to me), but the strategic locations leak is a fuckup by Wikileaks. That's going too far. It's not free speech at that point, you're handing people targets... "

Do you have any proof of this? "

The leak? It's on the BBC.

link

EDIT: I want to clarify my position. They have a right to say and do whatever they want, which includes releasing information they receive. But this was a bad decision by them.

"

" @Synaptic said:

" @HandsomeDead said:

" @Synaptic said:

" I couldn't care less about the embassy memos that were leaked(some were kind of funny to me), but the strategic locations leak is a fuckup by Wikileaks. That's going too far. It's not free speech at that point, you're handing people targets... "

Do you have any proof of this? "

The leak? It's on the BBC.

link

EDIT: I want to clarify my position. They have a right to say and do whatever they want, which includes releasing information they receive. But this was a bad decision by them.

"

So you're basically just buying into the fearmongering that's going on. "

Do I think it's definitely going to result in an attack? Hell no. But why make it easier?

On a different note, that article was actually really interesting to me. I had no idea a cobalt mine could be considered vital to national security.

 
@Sargus said:

The fact that Obama's administration is trying to silence WikiLeaks does not, in any way, make him a conservative in disguise. "

Maybe not, but his current handling of the Bush tax cut extensions is. I tend to lump conservatives in with police states and fascism. Maybe I'm slightly over-generalizing. "

Maybe not, but his current handling of the Bush tax cut extensions is. I tend to lump conservatives in with police states and fascism. Maybe I'm slightly over-generalizing.
 

OH Joy another one of these threads....

" @jmrwacko said:

 
@Sargus said:

The fact that Obama's administration is trying to silence WikiLeaks does not, in any way, make him a conservative in disguise. "

Maybe not, but his current handling of the Bush tax cut extensions is. I tend to lump conservatives in with police states and fascism. Maybe I'm slightly over-generalizing. "

Oh, no fucking shit, huh? "

It's been pretty civil so far.

" @fallaciousPsychologist said:

" @Bones8677 said:

" Foreign politics is confusing... "

All politics are confusing. "

Well at least American politics tends to be entertaining. :-) "

" @jmrwacko:  If you were old enough to vote for Obama, you were old enough to know what was going on during the Bush administration.  And, if you're pissed about Obama selling airplanes to Brazil, I would recommend you read up on Reagan and Oliver North. "

" @Bones8677 said:

" @jmrwacko said:

 
@Sargus said:

The fact that Obama's administration is trying to silence WikiLeaks does not, in any way, make him a conservative in disguise. "

Maybe not, but his current handling of the Bush tax cut extensions is. I tend to lump conservatives in with police states and fascism. Maybe I'm slightly over-generalizing. "

Oh, no fucking shit, huh? "

The disillusionment I'm experiencing is that Obama was supposed to be the leftist candidate of change, except after he got voted into office we ended up getting a half-assed recovery bill, a dumbed down health care bill with no public option (grrrrrrr), and now we have the entire administration arguing down what is essentially a leak that promotes government openness, threatening to charge people with treason and the death penalty who should be praised for their valor in leaking information to a watchdog group. Conservative, fascist, whatever you want to call it, it's just that the man doesn't live up to what he purported to be during the presidential elections. You may criticize me by saying that campaign promises always go broken and I should have expected to be disappointed, but at the time I voted for Obama I was 18 and incredibly impressionable - I believed his bullshit, and look at what's happening now. Soooo infuriating.  Alright, I'm going to do some español work, take this thread with a grain of salt. "

i say let all the documents come out. i get a kick out of reading certain parts of the wires such as my favorite calling the russian president the Robin to Putin's Batman. fucking classic. 
 
it just further proves all politicians are back talking shit heads. let it all come out.  
i hope we get all the memos from lobbyists to political figures such as our president/congress/etc...present and past ones. that would really please me.  
 
alls we need in this country is a spark to piss people off enough to force a reconciliation of the way things work. both parties should be dissolved and that kind of politics involving parties outlawed.  
our forefathers despised the idea of party politics... yet here we are.

" @fallaciousPsychologist said:

" @Bones8677 said:

" Foreign politics is confusing... "

All politics are confusing. "

Well at least American politics tends to be entertaining. :-) "

" @Suicidal_SNiper said:

" Also, I'm pretty sure the server is Swiss, not Swedish. Basing this off the fact that he recently moved his site to a Swiss provider. "

Really? I had read that he was speculating moving the site to a Swiss provider but didn't, and I just went to the wikipedia article and there's a linked article there claiming wikileaks is now being hosted in France. I'm not entirely sure now where the DNS is hosted >.> "

I think this is one of those situations where we won't know the facts for a while, if ever. "  

From this BBC article posted on December 3rd: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11907641

EveryDNS.net said it had terminated services because Wikileaks.org had come under massive cyber attacks.

But Wikileaks has already reappeared using a Swiss web address.

If you Google Wikileaks, you still get Wikileaks. 
 
Thank you, Google.

"I'm a Republican who voted for Obama,  "

" @Bones8677 said:

" @fallaciousPsychologist said:

" @Bones8677 said:

" Foreign politics is confusing... "

All politics are confusing. "

Well at least American politics tends to be entertaining. :-) "

could not agree more lol "

The file is out already, there is just a password on it. Even if every one of the wikileaks mirrors got taken down they could just announce the password and millions of people would open up the other 250,000 files yet to be released. There is nothing the government can do now short of shutting off the web, which they have the power to do, but would annihilate them way worse than these leaks ever could.

Is anyone actually surprised?  This guy is gonna be dead within a year

I could get behind wikileaks when they released that video of an American attack helicopter killing an arab photographer, several Iraqi civilians, and a few childern.  But I don't see point in releasing the diplomatic cables besides proving everyone's assumptions of America's arrogant foreign policy.  Its more annoying than righteous.  
 
Julian Assange seems like a real douche bag.

" I could get behind wikileaks when they released that video of an American attack helicopter killing an arab photographer, several Iraqi civilians, and a few childern.  But I don't see point in releasing the diplomatic cables besides proving everyone's assumptions of America's arrogant foreign policy.  Its more annoying than righteous.    Julian Assange seems like a real douche bag. "