When did Ryan Davis and Jeff Gerstmann begin to be so pesimistic?

I'm pretty sure it's Brad Nicholson doing the live blog, but don't quote me on that.

Jeff seems to be pretty excited about Assassin's Creed's multiplayer.
 
I'm not surprised that they're not interested the 3D stuff. Almost nobody in the press is legitimately excited about 3D.

   I remember actually being really pissed at Ryan Davis and still am because of the TANG movies. I got really tired of his constant ranting about how bad the movies were, just ALWAYS blabbering about how bad this movie is. And at some point i just got really frustrated because he never said any good things. He had turned into a irrittating critic who could only critisise things...

Jeff isn't even watching the conference. He's on the show floor playing CoD black ops helicopter combat, so I don't know where you got these "quotes" from him about Ridge Racer and Killzone 3. He hasn't tweeted about them, which is where he would post such comments.
 
As for Ryan, he's Giant Bomb's resident dick. And every site needs a dick. It provides both humour and helps provide a pessimistic opinion to counter more optimistic ones. Just think of it as an alternate opinion.

So they should pretend to be super psyched for 3d like mainsteam media? 3d is cool, but its nowhere near what people want out of it. Maybe the transition from 2d to 3d needs to take more time, because most of the time, i focus more in my head about "is this 3d? its just kinda weird looking and my eyes dont know where to focus". Its awkward, and gaming doesnt necessarily need it.  Jeff and Ryan are scoffing at all the developers rushing in to this "hot thing" and trying to cash in, while in reality 3d home tvs are quite a way off from being mainstream. Remeber the wii? It didnt need to be hd because less then 40% of the userbase had Hdtvs

I think that in the world of 3D taking over you need to vent your rage. 
 
With current technology it seems like a major waste of time and space on the discs to duplicate an image and force people to wear glasses that cause a major headache and lowers the quality of the game when viewed from a certain direction. 

Well 3D and motion controls have questionable track records so I can see why they would be doubtful as to how well this stuff will work. Jeff was fairly positive about kinect on the live stream last night. Also I think Nicholson is doing the blogs.

  taswell   
Still need to play a game, but holy shit. The 3DS fucking WORKS. Advantage Nintendo! 

" I'm pretty sure it's Brad Nicholson doing the live blog, but don't quote me on that. "

They're just realistic....

"3D is still lame, and doesn't add value.  Therefore the Giantbomb crew, who are intelligent, see this and are understandably pessimistic about it. "

Remember Jeff's description of Ryan going into E3:
 
""Ryan is an asshole."
 
@MasterEmil said:

" Also good movies like Max Payne and Hitman, well not top movies but medium he just shot down for nothing!? "

" Frrawrst no they should pretend, but atleast try to be objective about it instead of just saying f*** that straight away."

Changed a lot over the past 2 years? 
Isn't that about the age of Giantbomb? lol 
 
I agree with you to an extent. Jeff and Ryan can be pessimistic about a lot of games. But they are also stoked about a lot of games, they never ignore a game because they aren't excited about it, and they are not afraid to call shit...shit.  
 
Giantbomb isn't about being objective, it's about watching these dudes play video games (and get into hijinks) while they tell us their honest impressions and opinions. 
I'd rather know that Ryan, Jeff, and the rest of the crew don't know a lot about halo, that way when I read their review of a halo game, I know where they are coming from.

So you're mad at Ryan didn't say anything good about the horrible movies he was watching on TANG, and you're mad at Jeff for giving his honest opinion?

Really? Objective about 3D? Every post would be like "Well hey guys I guess we'll just have to wait and see." Objective blogging would be boring as hell.

Hate to break it to you, but all the TANG movies were pretty awful. That's kinda the point of the series.

Ryan is a dick, well known fact. But they're on the ball here.

All TANG movies were bad, endo story. 
  
I would much rather have Jeff and Ryan be pessimistic, then have them jumping up and down over something that they haven't been able to personally test in an environment NOT run by Sony. I'm still waiting on people to tell me what 3D adds to a video game or movie,  a lot of the video game stuff is pipe dreams/wishful thinking. I think a lot of the pessimism just stems from everything getting this 3D treatment whether they need it or not, a lot of console games don't even run in full 720P and framerates. This could be just me but I'd rather have full HD (720P) and 60FPS over 3D effects.

Sounds like you're a firm believer of the future of 3D.  Jeff has expressed his disinterest with the technology and sounds willing to accept it should it become more user-friendly and consumer-friendly (no glasses, lower cost).  For now, it sounds like a way to get people to get extra money for barely any effort in changing the way gaming is now.  Adding more visual depth to games isn't enough to impress our seasoned veteran.

" MysteriousBob, as i said maybe that was the point, to rant every gamme movie he could. "

Ryan has been "pessimistic" or as I prefer to describe him "cautiously judicious" since, well, forever.  I think Jeff is still positive.  I listened to yesterday's Bombcast and he was positive about the potential he saw in the train-wreck that was the Microsoft Kinect press conference.  I don't know how you can describe him as pessimistic when he still tries to find the good in something like the device following its laughably bad unveiling.     

" I'm pretty sure it's Brad Nicholson doing the live blog, but don't quote me on that. "

How dare Ryan talk negatively about the quality works of uwe boll

Historically 3D and motion control don't have very good track records. I can understand their skepticism.  
 
Still, if they don't like it they don't like it. Everyone's got their opinions. 

Jeff wasnt even AT the sony press conference, he was on the show floor playing Call Of Duty Black Ops, and then Portal 2
 
As usual, uninformed statements are awesome!

I see nothing wrong with the truth. 

3D is great, the problem is no one can afford the tech needed to use it. 
 
Also Max Payne and Hitman were NOT good movies.

" Also good movies like Max Payne and Hitman, well not top movies but medium he just shot down for nothing!?  "

Is this suppose to be some sort of fag post? because I'm not buying it.

They are right though, 3D is just a ridiculous thing to try and sell more TVs and things, do people actually want it? Generally no.

i don't mind the pessimism but it bugs me when they gang up on brad 
 
pretty sure he meant the ability to fast travel to wherever you've already been is the next logical step, not that the act of warping from a campfire was logical....