Wiki-Leaks do you support it?

Information being open is good but not the way that wikileaks is doing it. Informants names should not be released and some gov intel should stay secret.

Fuck yea I do!

For the record, if the government didn't have so much dirty laundry, we wouldn't need Wikileaks.

What the hell is Wikileaks? Poor OP.

" @Chaser324 said:

" Sadly, I must abstain from voting.  As an employee of a government contractor, I'm strictly forbidden from accessing, viewing, or discussing Wiki-Leaks or any its content. "

Yeah, they sent that notice out at my company, too. Fortunately there wasn't anything forbidding voting in a poll about it. ;-) "

If it's a matter of national security, I can understand information being kept secret and I'm fine with that. 

But the documents that were just recently leaked have absolutely nothing to do with national security and at best that was a flimsy excuse to try and cover up information they didn't want anyone to see.  In those cases, I absolutely believe in the freedom of information, especially if the higher ups in the country are behaving like this.

On one hand, I do think a lot of the leaked information is useless and barely more than international politics but at the same time, I don't think Interpol would have framed him for rape were the information simply that, and there is a lot of important stuff in these leaks. I haven't had much time to look them over but what little I have seen, particularly the stuff surrounding Hilary Clinton, is pretty terrifying stuff.

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" Didn't you just make the exact same thread on Screened? "

What difference does it make if he did? "

You sound like you're trying to start something. Alls I'm doing is asking. "

Not trying to start anything. I thought you were giving the OP shit. My apologies. "

Swede here, we used to host the damn wikileaks server.
 
Guess my stance.

Most of the information that was leaked doesn't really concern the public. It bothers me in the sense that quite literally anyone can read it, including enemies of the US.

I don't know all that much about the leak, but isn't it endangering a lot of lives with the information that's getting out? Fair enough if it's just political opinions on world leaders and such, but I wouldn't be surprised if the guy who leaked it was swiftly assassinated.

I actually like it. After the George W. Bush era of blatant lies and trickery to the public, it's good that someone decided to just say "Ya know what, here's everything. Plain and Simple.".

" I don't know all that much about the leak, but isn't it endangering a lot of lives with the information that's getting out? Fair enough if it's just political opinions on world leaders and such, but I wouldn't be surprised if the guy who leaked it was swiftly assassinated. "

I understand the importance of transparency, and I understand the role of the media in that same sense. I feel that if the government is publicly responsible for its actions, the voting public holds more power.
But........where the fuck was this concern about "transparency" during the eight years that Bush was selling our government departments to corporate interest? Where was WikiLeaks (and the public interest in it) while Dick Cheney was openly violating the Geneva convention. This information was around, yet there was little to do about it.
Now it's revealed that we collect data on foreign diplomats (no shit, by the way - what did you think we do? Make them tea and chat?) and the entire media goes bitchcakes.
 

" I actually like it. After the George W. Bush era of blatant lies and trickery to the public, it's good that someone decided to just say "Ya know what, here's everything. Plain and Simple.". "

" I understand the importance of transparency, and I understand the role of the media in that same sense. I feel that if the government is publicly responsible for its actions, the voting public holds more power.
But........where the fuck was this concern about "transparency" during the eight years that Bush was selling our government departments to corporate interest? Where was WikiLeaks (and the public interest in it) while Dick Cheney was openly violating the Geneva convention. This information was around, yet there was little to do about it. Now it's revealed that we collect data on foreign diplomats (no shit, by the way - what did you think we do? Make them tea and chat?) and the entire media goes bitchcakes.   "

It's great and all the "will endanger lives" bullshit is just america's hilarious way to diminish it.

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" Didn't you just make the exact same thread on Screened? "

What difference does it make if he did? "

You sound like you're trying to start something. Alls I'm doing is asking. "

Not trying to start anything. I thought you were giving the OP shit. My apologies. "

Oh daayyyuummm, he is totally tryin' to start up something with ya, son! Do something 'bout this foo' knock his teeth out! And you ma boy, Axxol this foo' tryin' to be hatin' on this here OP, teach him a lesson and knock him out and teach him some lovin' and respectin'. "

Where's the I don't give a fuck option?

As a general rule, whatever Bill O'Reilly and Sarah Palin think I generally choose the opposite stance.   

I find it hilarious that some people just think it's too much useless stuff. Literally getting a look at world changing material and they want it abbreviated.

I still haven't made a decision one way or another. One thing I do know is it makes room for a lot of conspiracy theories. I wonder if Patrick Stewart and Mel Gibson are involved.

Good intentions, and all that, but the reckless disclosure of information that only serves to undermine my country's ability to operate diplomatically is not something I make a habit of supporting.
 
Thus, my vote for B.

I am less than convinced about wiki leaks.  
 
The last time they had a world changing megaton of information, they announced a release date for it, waited, and then eventually released the information. As far as I can tell, nothing happened. If the information they released was as earth shattering as it supposedly was, surely I would have noticed its effect without even looking for it. And now it looks like we are in the same boat again. Wiki leaks has some crazy info, which is life changing for everyone, but they'll wait a while and announce it later. It all seems very strange. 
 
Wiki leaks' objective and their behavior does not seem to coincide.  
So for anyone else out there, did I just miss all of the changes that occurred after the first bomb they dropped? Is there any explanation for why they wait to release such important information?

" @RsistncE:   Then why didn't they just release the serious ones? Why do I need to know all this useless crap? "

" i FUCKING LOVE WIKILEAKS!!!!"                                        "

completely and wholeheartedly support this and any other info that is released from wiki links as long as it doesn't endanger our troops out there.

I dunno.

B.  
  
Anyone who can't see how this could be (and probably is) used to endanger the U.S. is ignorant. I idolize all of you who think you are edgy and hope to be just like you someday. 

@NekuSakuraba said:

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" @Toxin066 said:

" Didn't you just make the exact same thread on Screened? "

What difference does it make if he did? "

You sound like you're trying to start something. Alls I'm doing is asking. "

Not trying to start anything. I thought you were giving the OP shit. My apologies. "

Oh daayyyuummm, he is totally tryin' to start up something with ya, son! Do something 'bout this foo' knock his teeth out! And you ma boy, Axxol this foo' tryin' to be hatin' on this here OP, teach him a lesson and knock him out and teach him some lovin' and respectin'. "

see kids, this is a prime example of someone trying to hard,  
 
 
remember to always show that whatever you are doing is easy, because trying to hard can cause social mistakes like the one above, 
 
 
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I am an American and I do not support WikiLeaks.
 
The information they gather is classified for a reason.  The public doesn't and shouldn't need to know everything the government does.  if the public knew of all the international security threats that go on everyday, there would be mass unnecessary panic.  The leaks also compromise military and other foreign operations just for the sake of stirring shit up.

Secrets are meant to protect the government from its own population.  

Well I'm Swedish and we're all about liberty here, the Wikileaks servers are based here in Sweden
 
So C is my answer

American and opposed.  In a perfect world, all information would be available about all countries.  In the real world, the country that has the fewest of their secrets all over the internet has an advantage, all else being held equal.  Do you think that country is more like Sweden or like China?

Hell yeah, I love seeing the people in power sweat like pigs right now. The fact that they are, just makes everything worse for them, and I love it.

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Cool. "

Am i the only one that feels that this wiki leaks issue  is only a bad remake of "mean girls"

i like the potential wikileaks has to expose the nasty things that governments and corporations get up to. i'm sure the potential is there to compromise governments'/businesses'/individuals' security in some pretty bad ways, but i am not aware of that happening just yet.

" Am i the only one that feels that this wiki leaks issue  is only a bad remake of "mean girls" "

i get what they're trying to do and i think they have nothing but good intentions but to be honest i think that sometimes the public doesn't need to know everything and may even be safer for not knowing it. The release of this sort of information just seems to spread panic and conspiracies even tho all the things released by Wiki-Leaks have been going on for years and years without anyone knowing about it.