I love it to death, its only a beta and it works faster then Vista, the new start bar is my favorite, it doesnt have dreamscene though, im sure it will when its released to market, the only thing I hate it the desktop bar being of the right and not the left! But games are amazing they play like they did on XP! I wish they would beta the 64bit verison! Hopefully MS will make own a Home and Pro edition instead of 6 different ones! MS may have there act together on this one! Hasnt froze once, reminds me of how well XP SP2 works.
By the way, to anyone who might have complaints about Windows 7 (and I'm sure there will be plenty), try sending feedback through the proper means unlike many people. Microsoft does read and consider the feedback from their betas. It was released today to subscribers of the MSDN and TechNet services and tomorrow will be when the general public gets access.
"To be honest I think their is a open beta this week... or that could have been a dream..."
its supposed to start sometime tomorrow :)"
Yi-PEE FUCKING YAY!"
It's a Windows 7 beta... No reason to be so happy. Have you ever seen a Windows beta? Like the Vista one for example? Absolute crap.. it will only be of your interest only if you are way into computer engineering.
I was amazed to read about this in the paper today. I was under the impression they should still be working on making Vista somewhat decent. I still use xp and havent felt any need to change up.
Can anyone describe what Windows 7 will do that xp or vista won't?
I've downloaded the 64bit ISO straight from Microsoft through links which now don't work. I will install it now quickly, then hover around the Windows 7 homepage for the access to the keys to appear. This is funtastic! :D
If this is a beta, presumably it's full-featured, couldn't somebody just use this beta as their default OS and not bother paying to upgrade Vista? What do you lose by permanantly using this beta? Can you remove it easily?
"If this is a beta, presumably it's full-featured, couldn't somebody just use this beta as their default OS and not bother paying to upgrade Vista? What do you lose by permanantly using this beta? Can you remove it easily?"
The beta expires on August 1. I don't see how one would remove an OS without reformatting unless you're doing an upgrade or it was installed to another partition/VM, which in both cases the current OS doesn't need to support the removal.
im loving the speed of it but im so used to my desktop tweaks that i find the use of a taskbar awkward. a little bit of time and im sure i will love it. nothing can replace rocketdock for me though
I think it's great so far. No crashes or compatability issues. It recognised both my displays (one being a TV over hdmi) and my 360 over the network, and all the drivers I needed were pre-installed. It has some really well thought out navigational additions and window/program management. Themes are awesome too, i've yet to make my own, assuming you can do so, but it rotates through a selection of wallpapers to a set colour and transparancy of the windows and start menu.
I also got some keys for the Beta, but it looks like everyone is getting the same keys so far, so i'm not sure how limited this beta is going to be.
"I really love it, I've been running it for two or three weeks now and it's worked completely flawlessly. I am an avid pc user and have had no issues."
Woffls said:
"I think it's great so far. No crashes or compatability issues. It recognised both my displays (one being a TV over hdmi) and my 360 over the network, and all the drivers I needed were pre-installed. It has some really well thought out navigational additions and window/program management. Themes are awesome too, i've yet to make my own, assuming you can do so, but it rotates through a selection of wallpapers to a set colour and transparancy of the windows and start menu.
I also got some keys for the Beta, but it looks like everyone is getting the same keys so far, so i'm not sure how limited this beta is going to be."
"I think it's great so far. No crashes or compatability issues. It recognised both my displays (one being a TV over hdmi) and my 360 over the network, and all the drivers I needed were pre-installed. It has some really well thought out navigational additions and window/program management. Themes are awesome too, i've yet to make my own, assuming you can do so, but it rotates through a selection of wallpapers to a set colour and transparancy of the windows and start menu.
I also got some keys for the Beta, but it looks like everyone is getting the same keys so far, so i'm not sure how limited this beta is going to be."
So essentially it's windows vista after service pack 1? Pulling the mojave effect I see, lulz.
anyone else have trouble downloading? I am at the download screen (after you verify your email) and the download won't start. Well It gave me a product key so maybe I will bittorrent, then I don't have to use a download manager.
It's awesome, I'm using it as I type this. Even on my semi-mediocre PC it works great, and I didn't even have to touch any of my driver CDs. Good job MS.
EDIT: just posted a preview in OT. Look at the images, and you'll see that this is NOT Vista with SP1. It has lots of great new features.
"It's awesome, I'm using it as I type this. Even on my semi-mediocre PC it works great, and I didn't even have to touch any of my driver CDs. Good job MS.
EDIT: just posted a preview in OT. Look at the images, and you'll see that this is NOT Vista with SP1. It has lots of great new features."
"anyone else have trouble downloading? I am at the download screen (after you verify your email) and the download won't start. Well It gave me a product key so maybe I will bittorrent, then I don't have to use a download manager."
The normal download method requires you to use IE.
"anyone else have trouble downloading? I am at the download screen (after you verify your email) and the download won't start. Well It gave me a product key so maybe I will bittorrent, then I don't have to use a download manager."
The normal download method requires you to use IE."
"I was amazed to read about this in the paper today. I was under the impression they should still be working on making Vista somewhat decent. I still use xp and havent felt any need to change up.
Can anyone describe what Windows 7 will do that xp or vista won't? "
"If this is a beta, presumably it's full-featured, couldn't somebody just use this beta as their default OS and not bother paying to upgrade Vista? What do you lose by permanantly using this beta? Can you remove it easily?"
The beta expires on August 1. I don't see how one would remove an OS without reformatting unless you're doing an upgrade or it was installed to another partition/VM, which in both cases the current OS doesn't need to support the removal."
you will be able to buy the final verison by that date
"If this is a beta, presumably it's full-featured, couldn't somebody just use this beta as their default OS and not bother paying to upgrade Vista? What do you lose by permanantly using this beta? Can you remove it easily?"
The beta expires on August 1. I don't see how one would remove an OS without reformatting unless you're doing an upgrade or it was installed to another partition/VM, which in both cases the current OS doesn't need to support the removal."
you will be able to buy the final verison by that date"
No, however presumably Beta 2 will be released then. The final product might not be released until early next year. And secondly, this is a full featured OS. It is hard to remove and install, and yes you could use it as your primary OS.
HOWEVER, the reason MS gives this out for free, is to collect information on the hardware of the users, and to automatically collect crash information. You then, are supposed to report all bugs you find in the interest of making the OS better. It's a two-way deal.
"If this is a beta, presumably it's full-featured, couldn't somebody just use this beta as their default OS and not bother paying to upgrade Vista? What do you lose by permanantly using this beta? Can you remove it easily?"
The beta expires on August 1. I don't see how one would remove an OS without reformatting unless you're doing an upgrade or it was installed to another partition/VM, which in both cases the current OS doesn't need to support the removal."
you will be able to buy the final verison by that date"
No, however presumably Beta 2 will be released then. The final product might not be released until early next year. And secondly, this is a full featured OS. It is hard to remove and install, and yes you could use it as your primary OS.
HOWEVER, the reason MS gives this out for free, is to collect information on the hardware of the users, and to automatically collect crash information. You then, are supposed to report all bugs you find in the interest of making the OS better. It's a two-way deal.
I`m really digging it. Have it running on spare machine, with 1.7 Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo, only 1GB of RAM. Running really great. Just google windows 7, for link.
I really want to try this Windows 7 deal but I'm a little hesitant due to it expiring in August. What guarantee do we have that we'll be able to download the Beta 2 by then? Also, what will happen to the programs I have currently installed if I download the new OS?
The part about Windows 7 not whoring out my RAM as much as Vista is particularly interesting as I only have 1 GB. Deets, please.
after trying it. I can officially confirm to you that windows 7 = windows vista after service pack 1 It's going to be just like that mojave experiment thign. Same shit, but different idea about it.
"Early next year? No way, conventional wisdom is it will be released this summer. Something would have to go wrong for it to be pushed back that much."
No man, it was said they were aiming for an early 2009 release in their keynote. Unless you have a source to tell me otherwise...
"If this is a beta, presumably it's full-featured, couldn't somebody just use this beta as their default OS and not bother paying to upgrade Vista? What do you lose by permanantly using this beta? Can you remove it easily?"
The beta expires on August 1. I don't see how one would remove an OS without reformatting unless you're doing an upgrade or it was installed to another partition/VM, which in both cases the current OS doesn't need to support the removal."
you will be able to buy the final verison by that date"
No, however presumably Beta 2 will be released then. The final product might not be released until early next year. And secondly, this is a full featured OS. It is hard to remove and install, and yes you could use it as your primary OS."
I'm pretty sure they said something about there being only one beta, but there will almost surely be a RC before the final release. It's not hard to remove or install either.
pirate_republic said:
"Steven said:
"Early next year? No way, conventional wisdom is it will be released this summer. Something would have to go wrong for it to be pushed back that much."
No man, it was said they were aiming for an early 2009 release in their keynote. Unless you have a source to tell me otherwise..."
It is feature complete and rather stable. What is going to take them a year? All of the analysts have said it's shipping later this year. If someone from Microsoft did say that, it might have been a safety in case something goes wrong. They don't want to promise something they can't guarantee, so then it is going to be out by 2010. Also, they're offering free upgrades to people who purchase a Vista PC after July 1; that would be about twice as long as the same deal offered for Vista.
"If this is a beta, presumably it's full-featured, couldn't somebody just use this beta as their default OS and not bother paying to upgrade Vista? What do you lose by permanantly using this beta? Can you remove it easily?"
The beta expires on August 1. I don't see how one would remove an OS without reformatting unless you're doing an upgrade or it was installed to another partition/VM, which in both cases the current OS doesn't need to support the removal."
you will be able to buy the final verison by that date"
No, however presumably Beta 2 will be released then. The final product might not be released until early next year. And secondly, this is a full featured OS. It is hard to remove and install, and yes you could use it as your primary OS."
I'm pretty sure they said something about there being only one beta, but there will almost surely be a RC before the final release. It's not hard to remove or install either.
pirate_republic said:
"Steven said:
"Early next year? No way, conventional wisdom is it will be released this summer. Something would have to go wrong for it to be pushed back that much."
No man, it was said they were aiming for an early 2009 release in their keynote. Unless you have a source to tell me otherwise..."
It is feature complete and rather stable. What is going to take them a year? All of the analysts have said it's shipping later this year. If someone from Microsoft did say that, it might have been a safety in case something goes wrong. They don't want to promise something they can't guarantee, so then it is going to be out by 2010. Also, they're offering free upgrades to people who purchase a Vista PC after July 1; that would be about twice as long as the same deal offered for Vista."
I know it's retarded to wait until next year, but that's what they said in the keynote (got a source to prove me otherwise? I do want it to come out in 09).
And it is hard to remove... if you have the technical know-how, which I doubt AlwaysCrashing has. For me and you it's easy, sure.
"I know it's retarded to wait until next year, but that's what they said in the keynote (got a source to prove me otherwise? I do want it to come out in 09).
And it is hard to remove... if you have the technical know-how, which I doubt AlwaysCrashing has. For me and you it's easy, sure."
If they said it in the keynote, then obviously there would be no source to dispute that and since I didn't see the keynote I'll take your word for it. There are several sources, however, that dispute the accuracy of that claim. [1][2][3][4][5] for just a few. I wouldn't dispute the possibility, just the likelihood. And it's not hard to remove. There are only two ways I know of to remove an OS install, and that's to format or to install another OS in its place if supported. Both of those are simple processes, and if someone doesn't know how to do one then they can look it up and find the few steps are easy to follow.
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