My little brother bought Half-Life 1 on his steam account, which was a while ago on Half-Life's 10th anniversary when it was only a dollar. I have the original version of Half-Life from 1998 on a CD so I am quite familiar with the original game. When I saw my little bro playing his new version however, the soldiers were replaced by robots, and the gore has been significantly reduced. I can't help but wonder what this is all about. Robots?!?!?
Half-Life
Game » consists of 19 releases. Released Nov 19, 1998
Take on the role of Gordon Freeman as he escapes the disastrous aftermath of an experiment gone wrong in the Black Mesa Research Facility.
WTF robots in Half-life?
Valve released a heavily censored version in Germany to get a lower rating, replacing the soldiers with cyborgs, and editing out all the gore effects.
If you shoot one of the scientists, they sit down, shake their heads and then slowly fade away. I wish I was kidding here.
This version still received a 16+ rating.
What you describe sounds like this version, or a similar one. You mention your "little brother's steam accountt". How old is he? Maybe it's somehow linked to the age you set in your steam account? (I don't know if there is such a thing. I don't use steam.)
You can see it here:
http://schnittberichte.com/schnittbericht.php?ID=3232
"You can see it here:I think everyone here at GB can obviously read everything since we all master of the german language. Right?
http://schnittberichte.com/schnittbericht.php?ID=3232"
Still I could understand the differences by looking at the pics. I don't get why though.
i was just posting it because of the pics. The text basically just describes what's shown on the pictures.
As to "why": When the first Half-Life was released, titles that received an 18+ rating could very easily be put on the index if they were deemed "Jugendgefährdend" (harmful to the youth). If a title is put on the index, it can be sold and bought legally - But advertising in any way is forbidden. So many publishers censored their games in order to get a 16-rating. As you know, in Europe violence and gore have the same effect on ratings as sexual themes and nudity have in the US.
So valve replaced blood with nothing, death with "fading", men with machines and guts with gears.
Publishers still do this quite regularly, although laws have been changed a bit. Nowadays many violent games don't get an "official" german release at all and publishers just up the number of austrian copies - Selling, buying and playing these uncensored copies is legal, unproblematic, and circumvents the german ratings board.
"Why should the game developers even give a fuck about Germany then?"It's the biggest gaming market in Europe? The UK has a higher percentage of gamers, but sales-wise, it is. There's a second big yearly games convention about to launch. Especially in PC and MMO, Germany is by far the most profitable market in Europe.
There's a lot of ridiculous legal bs about "protecting the youth" from the portrayal of violence in the media, but developers (publishers) give a fuck and often invest quite a sum of money to make elaborate versions with the violence turned down because there's a huge friggin mass of paying customers there.
And Germans do have quite a bit of money to spend.
Edit: What do you know, it seems my numbers were a little outdated. The UK reclaimed that throne a while ago. Presumably with the steep rise of console gaming. So it's a 2nd biggest.
"Relys said:Yeah, the Germans definitely do make some great games too and they have power. Look at Drakensang, it was a huge success in Germany and now it's being adapted to come to America. Usually it works the other way but this game was so highly praised when it was released in Germany that Radon Labs decided to bring it to America. Things like that speak to the power of the German market. And the game looks sweet too."Why should the game developers even give a fuck about Germany then?"It's the biggest gaming market in Europe? The UK has a higher percentage of gamers, but sales-wise, it is. There's a second big yearly games convention about to launch. Especially in PC and MMO, Germany is by far the most profitable market in Europe.
There's a lot of ridiculous legal bs about "protecting the youth" from the portrayal of violence in the media, but developers (publishers) give a fuck and often invest quite a sum of money to make elaborate versions with the violence turned down because there's a huge friggin mass of paying customers there.
And Germans do have quite a bit of money to spend.
Edit: What do you know, it seems my numbers were a little outdated. The UK reclaimed that throne a while ago. Presumably with the steep rise of console gaming. So it's a 2nd biggest."
"mracoon said:It's probably me thinking wrongly, but it seems like a bummer to the mature audience over there (since that pretty much means games are censored before they even make it to german markets). Well I hope one day they find a better method of regulating this. Also, you would think that regulatory boards worldwide would think of a compromise like "Add a screen at the start stating everything's fictional and do not represent real life. Do not try this at home." so as to remove accountability for developers (as people blame them as they create said violent games intended for mature audiences, not minors). Sure minors can still somehow still get the game if they're smart, but at least accountability will shift back to where it's supposed to be directed at - parents who should regulate what minors are exposed to if they are really that worried. Laws should have been never made to regulate this stuff in particular as its just too subjective. Ahh well."I always knew Germany censored games"Publishers censor games. To increase sales. Because German law makes sure that violent games don't get into the hands of minors."
I would love to know if killzone 2 will be released there. And if it is, how it will be changed to accomodate the new laws. Should be humorous if this happens.
" Meowayne said:ermmm...the whole point was the pictures."You can see it here:I think everyone here at GB can obviously read everything since we all master of the german language. Right?Still I could understand the differences by looking at the pics. I don't get why though. "
http://schnittberichte.com/schnittbericht.php?ID=3232"
" @Snail said:No joke genius." I think everyone here at GB can obviously read everything since we all master of the german language. Right?Still I could understand the differences by looking at the pics. I don't get why though. "ermmm...the whole point was the pictures. "
Still I was expecting to read something about it.
It's not that big a problem, really. We adults can just import our games from the UK or Austria. It's often cheaper, too." Meowayne said:
"mracoon said:It's probably me thinking wrongly, but it seems like a bummer to the mature audience over there."I always knew Germany censored games"Publishers censor games. To increase sales. Because German law makes sure that violent games don't get into the hands of minors."
Actually, there are two levels of banning a game in Germany. The "normal" ban just forbids advertising and selling the game openly. That's annoying, but import is allowed. The second level is a proper ban as in "you are not allowed to own this game at all". That's quite rare, though - Manhunt 2 is such a case. In theory, the police can pay you a visit and confiscate the game.
There are several online shops specialized in providing German players with foreign uncut versions. This usually involves some sort of age check. German gamers constantly ask Valve to integrate an age check into steam according to German law (technically it should be possible), but they don't seem to care.
" @CL60 said:Use babelfish you lazy bastard." @Snail said:No joke genius.Still I was expecting to read something about it. "" I think everyone here at GB can obviously read everything since we all master of the german language. Right?Still I could understand the differences by looking at the pics. I don't get why though. "ermmm...the whole point was the pictures. "
Don't hate on the fine people at "schnittberichte.com" - it's a valuable and accurate source. I am sure the government would like to shut it down, but they are operating in a grey area.
if you want to see a really ridiculous case of German censorship, check out how they butchered Soldier of Fortune 2. They simply set the whole game in a parallel universe and replaced the humans with robots - which means they just colored them silver and put knit lines on them. It's hilariously stupid.
" mracoon said:True, but this law seems to be aimed at preventing sales of violent games in general. In Germany, there´s this list of games that are not outright banned, but prevented from being displayed openly in stores. Also, you can´t advertise these games anywhere in Germany. If a game is on this list (They call it the "Index"), the press is basically prohibited to write about it, since kids could read about those violent games then."I always knew Germany censored games"Publishers censor games. To increase sales. Because German law makes sure that violent games don't get into the hands of minors. "
There´s also the possibility of games being banned. That usually happens if games have forbidden iconography in them, such as swastikas (They are outlawed in Germany), a banned game can´t be sold to anyone in Germany.
So while Germany doesn´t censor games, some of this bullshit could well be seen as censoring the media.
" Valve released a heavily censored version in Germany to get a lower rating, replacing the soldiers with cyborgs, and editing out all the gore effects. If you shoot one of the scientists, they sit down, shake their heads and then slowly fade away. I wish I was kidding here. "
Man, this ain't even half as fucked up as what Germany did to Soldier of Fortune 2: Double Helix. They removed all the gore and created a NEW FUCKING PLOT - with the game set a 100 years into the future, with the main character fighting robots.
" @Snail said:I posted that 1 month and 4 years ago. What the hell?" @CL60 said:Use babelfish you lazy bastard. "" @Snail said:No joke genius.Still I was expecting to read something about it. "" I think everyone here at GB can obviously read everything since we all master of the german language. Right?Still I could understand the differences by looking at the pics. I don't get why though. "ermmm...the whole point was the pictures. "
And Babelfish/Google Translator suck. They make hilarious translations though.
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