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#1 Posted by ShockD (2401 posts) -

No custom key mappings. So basically the game forces me to play with WASD controls on my AZERTY keyboard. And doesn't provide a clue on how to change the controls. Thanks a bunch Dennaton. And no, I won't download a third party software for key rebinding which I'll have to launch every time I want to play the game.

#2 Posted by Imsorrymsjackson (855 posts) -

Get a gamepad.

#3 Posted by Shookems (474 posts) -

Maybe you can change the key bindings in the config file?

#4 Posted by crusader8463 (14421 posts) -

It's sad that we live in a time when being able to rebind the keys is a box feature and not something that's just in every game. Just as sad as the idiotic idea that was posted above. Buying a stupid game pad shouldn't be required to play a PC game. That would be like buying a game on the PS3/360 only to find out when you got home that you needed a kinect or move controller to play it and there was no label on the box saying as such.

#5 Posted by Ekami (256 posts) -

It's not really that sad.

#6 Edited by Ghostiet (5252 posts) -

What? I had to check this and I opened my game. I just changed my movement controls from WASD to IJKL and it works. I'm on version 2.0.0.4 apparently and all I had to do is press Enter at the Controls menu and press a button I want to change it to.

You can also change them by changing "keyboard.dat" in your game folder.

#7 Posted by Kraznor (1578 posts) -

@Ghostiet said:

What? I had to check this and I opened my game. I just changed my movement controls from WASD to IJKL and it works.

This man speaks truth, you can rebind your keys. I know because I accidentally set everything to ESC once and had to delete those config files so I could play it again.

#8 Posted by Snail (8597 posts) -

Stop being french?

Why do so many french-speaking countries have this layout anyway? The rest of the world gets along just fine with QWERTY.

#9 Posted by RollingZeppelin (1961 posts) -

@Kraznor said:

@Ghostiet said:

What? I had to check this and I opened my game. I just changed my movement controls from WASD to IJKL and it works.

This man speaks truth, you can rebind your keys. I know because I accidentally set everything to ESC once and had to delete those config files so I could play it again.

CRISIS AVERTED

/thread

#10 Posted by Sweep (8845 posts) -

@Kraznor said:

@Ghostiet said:

What? I had to check this and I opened my game. I just changed my movement controls from WASD to IJKL and it works.

This man speaks truth, you can rebind your keys. I know because I accidentally set everything to ESC once and had to delete those config files so I could play it again.

Can we get some confirmation from the OP that this has been resolved? @ShockD: ??

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#11 Edited by believer258 (11820 posts) -

@crusader8463 said:

It's sad that we live in a time when being able to rebind the keys is a box feature and not something that's just in every game. Just as sad as the idiotic idea that was posted above. Buying a stupid game pad shouldn't be required to play a PC game. That would be like buying a game on the PS3/360 only to find out when you got home that you needed a kinect or move controller to play it and there was no label on the box saying as such.

But some games and whole genres simply play better with a gamepad. Would you like it if no PC gamer, ever, got to properly play a racing game because he didn't play with a controller or steering wheel? Or a fighting game? Or a Devil May Cry-like action game? It would be like trying to play an RTS with a gamepad, which Halo Wars proved was possible but it's very clunky and unwieldy and it's preferable to use the control scheme it was designed from the ground up for.

#12 Posted by crusader8463 (14421 posts) -

@believer258:I would like it if the dev's took the time to make a game playable on the default control scheme the platform is made with. For PC that's KBM. As for the gamepad is better for some genres argument, I just don't agree with that. I grew up playing 2d side controllers like Duke Nukem, Jazz Jack Rabbit, and Command Keen with nothing but a keyboard with zero problems. I beat Super Meatboy with a KBM. I tried it with a controller and couldn't get past the first zone. I knew a guy that grew up playing racing games with a KBM and is super awesome at them but can not for the life of himself play them on a controller or a steering wheel. Set him down with a keyboard and mouse and he wins races like a pro.

My point is that people making your argument are only making it because that's what makes sense for them. It's what they grew up with because they are comfortable with a controller. Not everyone is. For people like myself, and my above mentioned friend, a KBM is what's best, and we play games with ease that everyone screams and moans that can only be played with a controller. It drives me nuts when people make blanket statements like you can only play certain genres with a controller and anything else is heresy when they are just talking about themselves.

#13 Posted by ShockD (2401 posts) -
@Sweep said:

@Kraznor said:

@Ghostiet said:

What? I had to check this and I opened my game. I just changed my movement controls from WASD to IJKL and it works.

This man speaks truth, you can rebind your keys. I know because I accidentally set everything to ESC once and had to delete those config files so I could play it again.

Can we get some confirmation from the OP that this has been resolved? @ShockD: ??

I still can't change them from the menu (maybe it hasn't self updated???). Editing the keyboard file worked thought, thanks :)  Didn't really think of that.
#14 Edited by MikkaQ (10284 posts) -

@crusader8463 said:

It's sad that we live in a time when being able to rebind the keys is a box feature and not something that's just in every game. Just as sad as the idiotic idea that was posted above. Buying a stupid game pad shouldn't be required to play a PC game. That would be like buying a game on the PS3/360 only to find out when you got home that you needed a kinect or move controller to play it and there was no label on the box saying as such.

Well it's just one of those things you should own for a lot of different kind of games, for how much they cost and how much they enhance playing games they're really worth buying.

Anyway if you ask me the whole world should use QUERTY. I like standards.

Maybe ini files hold the key?

#15 Posted by ShockD (2401 posts) -
@MikkaQ said:

@crusader8463 said:

It's sad that we live in a time when being able to rebind the keys is a box feature and not something that's just in every game. Just as sad as the idiotic idea that was posted above. Buying a stupid game pad shouldn't be required to play a PC game. That would be like buying a game on the PS3/360 only to find out when you got home that you needed a kinect or move controller to play it and there was no label on the box saying as such.

Well it's just one of those things you should own for a lot of different kind of games, for how much they cost and how much they enhance playing games they're really worth buying.

Anyway if you ask me the whole world should use QUERTY. I like standards.

Maybe ini files hold the key?

I'm currently gaming on a laptop as much as that can be called gaming. A gamepad shouldn't be necessary to play PC games. Undebatable.
 
I agree on the QWERTY standard statement. But it's not my fault it was cheaper in France so I got it from there.
#16 Posted by coakroach (2490 posts) -

Life is tough

#17 Posted by MikkaQ (10284 posts) -

@ShockD said:

@MikkaQ said:

@crusader8463 said:

It's sad that we live in a time when being able to rebind the keys is a box feature and not something that's just in every game. Just as sad as the idiotic idea that was posted above. Buying a stupid game pad shouldn't be required to play a PC game. That would be like buying a game on the PS3/360 only to find out when you got home that you needed a kinect or move controller to play it and there was no label on the box saying as such.

Well it's just one of those things you should own for a lot of different kind of games, for how much they cost and how much they enhance playing games they're really worth buying.

Anyway if you ask me the whole world should use QUERTY. I like standards.

Maybe ini files hold the key?

I'm currently gaming on a laptop as much as that can be called gaming. A gamepad shouldn't be necessary to play PC games. Undebatable. I agree on the QWERTY standard statement. But it's not my fault it was cheaper in France so I got it from there.

Wait wait wait, you type with QWERTY on an AZERTY keyboard?

I don't know if the controller thing is undebatable because there are racing games that become unplayable without proper analog acceleration and braking. Flight games with a keyboard are also really useless, and flight games are almost a unique genre to PC gaming. Sure, that's a specialty controller, but that's still basically a requirement to enjoy them even if they technically come with keyboard support.

#18 Posted by FluxWaveZ (19331 posts) -

Man, PC gaming can be such a fucking hassle. Started the game today, only to find out that it progressively slows down on me all the time. So I can do one chapter on semi-regular speed, but then afterwards everything is like in slow motion. Speed only returns to normal for a single chapter if I quit the game, but then it slows down again for the rest. It's unplayable for me in this state.

#19 Posted by ShockD (2401 posts) -
@MikkaQ: If they're unplayable without a gamepad I suppose we're talking about a bad PC port here, not a PC game. A reasonable developer would make the keys sensible enough.
#20 Posted by Bartman3010 (445 posts) -

It was made in Game Maker. A lot of issues can be attributed to Game Maker. You can do some impressive stuff with it, but in terms of optimization, Game Maker can't handle it.

#21 Posted by LiquidPrince (15922 posts) -

@ShockD said:

@MikkaQ: If they're unplayable without a gamepad I suppose we're talking about a bad PC port here, not a PC game. A reasonable developer would make the keys sensible enough.

It has nothing to do with sensibility. Some games just need analog controls which KB/M don't provide.

#22 Posted by ShockD (2401 posts) -
@LiquidPrince said:

@ShockD said:

@MikkaQ: If they're unplayable without a gamepad I suppose we're talking about a bad PC port here, not a PC game. A reasonable developer would make the keys sensible enough.

It has nothing to do with sensibility. Some games just need analog controls which KB/M don't provide.

Yeah, well those aren't PC games in most cases. The fact that they're ported to the PC platform doesn't genuinely make them PC games.
 
Anyhow I think we're turning this into off-topic now.
#23 Posted by Sweep (8845 posts) -

@ShockD said:

@Sweep said:

@Kraznor said:

@Ghostiet said:

What? I had to check this and I opened my game. I just changed my movement controls from WASD to IJKL and it works.

This man speaks truth, you can rebind your keys. I know because I accidentally set everything to ESC once and had to delete those config files so I could play it again.

Can we get some confirmation from the OP that this has been resolved? @ShockD: ??

I still can't change them from the menu (maybe it hasn't self updated???). Editing the keyboard file worked thought, thanks :) Didn't really think of that.

Okey dokey, in which case I'm going to consider this matter resolved and close the thread.

Thanks for the responses, everyone.

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