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    Mafia III

    Game » consists of 5 releases. Released Oct 07, 2016

    The third game in the open world crime series. Mafia III follows Vietnam veteran, mixed-race Lincoln Clay in 1960s New Bordeaux, when racism is blooming, as he aspires for revenge against those who have harmed his family.

    Mafia III Impressions.

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    WheresDerrick

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    I've completed it, the following talks about end-game spoilers and my opinions of it

    The three underbosses all talked about how they wanted to personally kill Sal Marcano, and yet when you do the final mission, they aren't there. In fact, not a single person to help you is there, unless you call in the favor to get some bodyguards.

    The final mission as a whole is disappointing. I really like the setup, driving towards the island and seeing the casino getting closer and closer while knowing thats where the rest of your enemies are hiding was invigorating, and I liked it as a set piece. The actual cut scenes for this part were great too, but the actual gameplay portion was just so meh.

    The three underbosses also never really did anything storywise either; from the small amount of info I knew going in, it painted a picture that you would all be working together, and yet the only time I ever saw them after saving their asses was when they sat down to piss and moan about who should be given territory. Even the PS4 theme shows all four of them standing over some goon in a swamp that gives the impression you will be doing stuff together.

    Overall though I enjoyed the game. I started to get that freeroam fatigue near the very end and I ended up skipping over side activities to get to the final story bits. I enjoyed the game as a whole though a lot more than Mafia 2. Part of me wishes the next game they make has the same quality of storytelling and acting but goes a more linear route, something like Max Payne; it wasn't like Mafia 3 ever had any driving missions or anything anyways, save the time and resources and use it for extra polish.

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    I'm finding that what's partially killing the game for me now is how nakedly video-gamey the enemy AI is. Enemy groups are so, so stupid. At least one will always walk directly towards you when they're searching, even if they don't "know" where you are. And they'll continue to do that one at a time until the entire base is dead. All the while ignoring the ridiculous pile of corpses right near where they're walking. You ever see the movie Mom and Dad Save the World?

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    It's like that. Except instead of a grenade, it's a guy hiding behind a pile of drywall with a bowie knife.

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    @lawgamer: Yeah, the enemies are very easy to exploit in stealth. There's been two or three bases that I took over without once breaking my crouchwalk stride. About ten hours in I made the decision to stop using stealth and I'm now going in loud every time just to have some fun. I do at least continue to enjoy the gunplay in this game.

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    #154  Edited By Anund

    @buckinghamaj said:

    Love the documentary style story telling in this game! The story is what keeps me playing day to day.

    The Gameplay is okay, nothing to amazing but nothing down right awful!

    The missions can get a little repetitive after you have done the same thing over and over again trying to get to the next plot point. Also the world feels a little empty and the NPCs don't feel real at times.

    Overall I think this a good game that could have been amazing if they went with the same story telling but with a streamline linear game where the missions are more thought out and have a feeling that you could complete it different ways. However, I know the Mafia franchise is a open world style game but that is just my thoughts :)

    Mafia 2 is the game you are describing. The Mafia games were never open world games by the normal standards until now (and they caught a lot of flak for it).

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    #155  Edited By pompouspizza

    I completely understand why a lot of people are not liking this game and I can't argue with a lot of the point made but I'm loving the hell out of this game. The shooting feels so good and it just isn't getting old for me.

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    15 hours in and I'm finding the story fantastic so far. It's just that I have been using stealth in every encounter and it just makes the game trivially easy the AI in this game is horrendous. I'm just gonna end up going in guns blazing for some kind of challenge

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    Anund

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    I did a fairly non violent playthrough of this game, trying my best to avoid killing anything which wasn't actively trying to kill me. With one notable exception...

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    BuckinghamAJ

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    @anund: Well that is what I get for assuming! haha Thanks for the info!

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    @anund: Well that is what I get for assuming! haha Thanks for the info!

    You should really play 2 if you haven't. It still holds up graphically and the story is worth it!

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    Playing on the PS4. Love the story, the gameplay is ho hum. A solid purchase for me.

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    #161  Edited By GrayFoxbr

    Finished the game.(PC)

    I loved the story, the music, the setting, the voice acting, the characters are interesting.(Donovan you crazy mofo) The whole narrative was really goood.

    But this feels like a diamond in the rough.There is something incredible here but it was never fully realized. It could have been so much more and performance wise the game has a lot of issues, AI could be better, etc.

    Just look at 2k post launch roadmap

    https://mafiagame.com/en/news/view/en-a-look-at-the-post-release-content-coming-to-mafia-3

    FREE! All New Character Outfits

    New, FREE Weapons

    MORE Vehicle Customization

    FREE RACES!

    MORE STORIES FROM NEW BORDEAUX

    “Faster, Baby!”

    “Sign of the Times”

    “Stones Unturned”

    Some of this stuff should've been part of the base game at launch. I understand that game development is something really complex and the rising costs of making a large game like this one.

    It feels like Mafia III launched incomplete. Just look at the PC version.

    With all of that being said I really liked the game. It was really enlightening to walk around New Bordeaux as Lincoln when suddenly you see the blue indicators of police suspicion...I though to myself: I'm not doing anything wrong why are they doing this..oh wait... it's the 60s...fuuuuuuck.Or when you walk into a store through the front door and it says trespassing,the npcs started yelling for you to leave. When Emmanuel Lazare talks about Papa Doc and the Tonton Macoute...some powerful stuff. The radio snippets talking about the assassination of Martin Luther King Jr, the war, the riots.

    This game oozes atmosphere.

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    @czyjoedavola: I've been mixing it up because I do think the combat is fun, it's just easy to get in the habit of doing everything the same way. I usually stealth pick off the guys on the outer edges, then use a different main weapon from what I used last time. I also find that swapping with dropped weapons often will add some variety to the fighting.

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    @anund: I'll definitely check it out!

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    Here are some open world games with a higher Metacritic than Mafia III

    Assassin's Creed (81)

    Assassin's Creed: Revelations (80)

    Crackdown 2 (70)

    Far Cry Primal (76)

    Prototype (78)

    Prototype 2 (74)

    The Amazing Spiderman 2 (69)

    Mafia II (74)

    Mafia III (68)

    Opinions are subjective, so some might see these scores when compared to Mafia III and say "Yup, makes sense". To me I think everyone of them is absurd. Makes me think a lot about professional criticism. Did not providing pre-release copies for review affect the overall consensus? Is it because not many outlets have reviewed it yet, which was a result of no pre-release reviews? Did the tough subject the game tackles affect its score/scare some away from reviewing it?

    Reviews are so weird, but 100% worthwhile and necessary. A double edged sword if there ever was one.

    Side note: The fact that games are weighed differently than other mediums actually makes me furious. A 68 game is considered "mixed" while a 68 movie is considered positive. It's so stupid. Highlights the worthlessness of Metacritic.

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    #165  Edited By Ares42

    @rongalaxy: I'd say it's probably an audience thing. I think Mafia 3 will hit better with people who are generally not into open-world games but like more linear campaigns, while it's not gonna impress people looking for an open-world experience. Personally I've found the game to be a good AC surrogate for the year, but it's easily not as good as the latest AC entries. While the presentation is excellent It just reeks of "first entry" open-world design. If this was truly the third game in a series (instead of being the third attempt of making a franchise relevant) it would've probably been an amazing game.

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    @rongalaxy: Most of the games on that list are quite a bit older than Mafia III. Things have moved on, especially in regards to open world games. If those other games were released now a lot of them would not do so well.

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    So I just ran into a game breaking bug. The game won't spawn the mission for the first Burke district take-over. Did everything for Cassandra and Vito and I'm now left with no mission icons on the map.
    I hope it gets fixed in a patch, because I really don't feel like going through all those missions again. This is a huge bummer.

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    @aktivity: Did you go back and talk to Donovan? You need to get the dossier on Burke from him before you start in on the mission chain. It's also possible that the mission is there but the icon isn't showing up. The map in this game seriously sucks with how it displays its icons.

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    #169  Edited By ThePanzini

    @rongalaxy: For most people reviews aren't that important 2k hasn't been sending out review copies for awhile now it hasn't effected NBA, Mafia 3 first week sales in the UK were pretty good it had a much bigger opening than Mafia 2.

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    #170  Edited By aktivity

    @lawgamer: I took down the rackets for Burke (and did everything for Nicki), but then nothing else popped up. I figured maybe it required me to progress with Vito.
    But after finishing Vito's take-over, there's still no new mission pointing me towards taking over the district for Burke.

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    #171  Edited By ArtisanBreads

    @rongalaxy said:

    Side note: The fact that games are weighed differently than other mediums actually makes me furious. A 68 game is considered "mixed" while a 68 movie is considered positive. It's so stupid. Highlights the worthlessness of Metacritic.

    That speaks to how game review stupidly only use half of their review scale. Not all, of course, but most. Pretty easy to see.

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    #172  Edited By Nodima

    Bought it last night, still going through the prologue but I find the aiming pretty clunky. Had to turn the aim assist on high. So far I'm finding the gameplay to be a facsimile of GTA V in that everything feels inspired by it and yet just 80% of the way there. Presentation is great though and it's fun to have another one of these to get my hands on since I never got bit by Sleeping Dogs or Saints Row and so I'm left waiting five or six years between GTAs to get my open world crime fest on. I would've bought Watch_Dogs 2 out of thirst despite not finishing or enjoying the first one but now I can likely skip it, at least until a deep discount on PSN sometime next year.

    Also the lighting model isinsane.Blinding sunspots at certain times, clouds turning day to night and back again at others. It's kind of hilarious honestly, especially since there are times when the lighting looks really, really fucking good. When it breaks it breaks hard.

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    @handlas: I agree, it's a great game otherwise right?

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    #174  Edited By ArtisanBreads

    @nodima: I think with clouds they were going for the way that stuff can happen in the South (clouds/storms etc can come and go real quick there) but it looks super crazy exaggerated sometimes.

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    #175  Edited By RonGalaxy

    Nolan North continues to be the best in his field. Took a lot of guts to play such a horrible racist in a medium that still finds it difficult to be taken seriously by outside viewers. Either way he knocked it out of the park.

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    Turned the difficulty down to Easy the last time I played, just going around and shooting everyone in the head with a silenced sub-machinegun instead of sneaking, because I'm getting sick of the sub-missions and really just want to progress the main story before I burn out on this game, like I've done on many other open-world games. If shooting dudes wouldn't feel as good as it does, I probably would've given up already, despite liking the story and the setting.

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    Alex mentioned on the Beastcast that you don't need to finish all the side stuff to clear districts, which would be a bonus for me in thinking about a purchase of this game. All that district clearing sounds like the latest Assassin's Creed, which I liked well enough but burned out on due to repetitive mission structure. Modern big-ticket games are just too freaking long haha.

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    I actually skipped a bunch of side missions by mistake myself. I was upset when I realized what I had been doing but it was a side effect of a spot of poor design. They have side missions in the same place where the final boss mission takes place so I had been activating the final boss mission thinking that WAS the mission that showed up on the map but no. Not sure why you'd put a side mission in the same place then have to go back to it for the boss mission.

    Anyway, driving is and looks so much better without the rearview mirror.

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    After playing it for awhile I would like to revise my opinion. Great story top notch. The setting aren't bad. The gameplay. Boring. repetitive and kind of broken. I don't know if I can finish this game.

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    I'm starting to get into it now, into the meat of the main game that is to say, and I like it a lot. I like teh setting, the characters, and yet I can see what they issues are. For now they are not bothering me, because I just starting to get into it. It will be a nice diversion for the next few weeks, and I suppose that is all I want from it.

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    So! I suppose I'm a little late to the discussion, but seeing as I got the game for free, and is perhaps the first game out of the three games I got (with Titanfall 2 and Skyrim Special Edition) that I'll finish first (or second, depending on when my brother finishes Titanfall 2), I've played several hours, just finishing up the carnival story mission. So far, it's not the best game of this type, but I'm liking it so far. Early on, the amount of enemies there were to fight, it made them seem like pushovers, where I could just run up to all of them and just mash B to take them all out, but when more guys come into it, more sneaking and shooting comes into place, and it's a lot of fun to me. Something that helps it is that Lincoln moves smoothly and animates well enough, though animations otherwise sometimes isn't that great. I also noticed that when swimming in areas, you sometimes can't climb up from a place you imagine you could, so you have to swim to find a place that you can, and that's a bit frustrating.

    As for glitches that have been talked about with this game, I have experienced very little so far; the biggest one is just enemies clipping through objects, or even my character during take-downs. I didn't finish the first or second, but like the second from what I remember, there's not much to do in the open world, so it feels a lot more like a linear, story focused game than an open world similar to GTA. There are a few open world games that I like running in, instead of driving, or riding a horse, and this is one of those games so far. I've ran from point A to B more than I drove. The only issue with that is that you won't get to hear the good '60s music as much, but it's cool when you run by buildings and hear it. The NPC chatter is alright, though all of them basically end with one of the two saying a word like 'yep', and sometimes that doesn't fit the tone of the conversation. It's also weird that the lethal and non-lethal take-downs are switched through the options menu.

    Is that just another way of saying 'do you want to turn off the gore/blood' option, similar to how Gears of War does it? I think they do the same thing, at least it does when it comes to taking down a mission target, where it says to kill someone, and as I do a non-lethal take-down, it says I killed them. Also, I generally like to go non-lethal, but I changed it back to lethal because it doesn't really make sense in terms of story. The atmosphere is pretty great, and I liked the carnival I just played (or the Mardi Gras in the beginning), and it kind of reminded me of Bioshock Infinite's Hall of Heroes area, but just walking around the streets so far is pretty good too. The clipping in a few parts made me chuckle, and the brutal lethal take-downs which sometimes don't fit the moment were also kind of funny, where it makes me think 'did they really deserve that?'

    As for the racial stuff, at least to me, it's not really that affecting aside from knowing it's obviously not a good thing. It's been done before, even if it hasn't been done so much in games; it doesn't necessarily feel new, shocking, or special where I'd recommend someone play it because it has a message or something. The beginning of the game, many people say it was strong, but aside from the end of the beginning, where it presents Lincoln's motivation to do what he does throughout the game, I didn't much care for it. So far, it's a good, fun game with a pretty good atmosphere. The soundtrack, aside from the licensed '60s tracks, is also pretty good, where it's not so much a soundtrack I'd listen to out of the game, but a fitting one that enhances the situation and place you're in.

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    I haven't played the game in a month and started it up today... apparently there was an update with outfits now? Seems like an odd addition via an update; like the game was supposed to have it. That's part of open world games that I always like even though it's kind of dumb; changing clothes and getting a new haircut.

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    Now that we're all n December I thought no it will be hard for any other game to beat Mafia 3 on my list of Worst Game Played in 2016.

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