@Aterons said:
1 They showed they are the less civilized race by the simple fact that they are the only ones who had an internal Nuclear war ( before any interference by other races ), not other race destroyed their home planet and no other race ( except the turains ) had any modern major wars against themselves, so they are on the same "war loving" level as turains were and they didn't had the diplomacy not to use nukes in said wars.
They made a mistake and were recovering from it. However due to the duress of the Rachni war, ethical and moral decisions were thrown out infavour of creating an army to save the galaxy. It was a short term decision were nearly ALL the short comings were put onto the Krogans on unfairly. It was a win win situation for the Turians Solarians and the Asari at the cost of the Krogans. In fact it under the direction of the Turians to wipe out the Rachni, something they argued hard for the Krogans as well however a middle ground was decided upon.
They were not allowed the time to recover from their mistake.
Also you seem to saying having an internal nuclear war is a mark of Uncivilized. You seem to forgetting a similar thing ALMOST happened just 70 years ago on innocents at that.
The nuclear bombs dropped onto of Horishima and Nagasaki were not needed. It can very easily be called an uncivilized act. So maybe you are right we are not civilized people our selves.
The Krogans were simply used as weapons, because of their robust nature and almost limitless population. With those maths you did right or wrong, you are not thinking about the true matter.
The ethical and moral matter, you can do the maths but remember IF THIS WAS REAL. Those are lives, lives of sentient beings, and you are just treating them like numbers.
This is a real issue in real life. A military force must remember that is it playing with peoples lives and not numbers.
However to simply say "oh ignore all the STILLBIRTHS they have enough." is like saying its ok that a woman can have the CHANCE for 1 out of 5 births be survivable.
These are lives that are being created and then snuffed out so easily and on such a large scale. That is the concept behind this.
What if this was real, you couldn't just easily go by the numbers you have to use your heart at some point.
Its hard to argue how to change the events of the past, maybe they happened in the best way it was probably the only way for it to go.
However why prosecute a people and continue a punishment long since paid for and give them a chance?
Fun fact actually that is what led to World War 2. World War 1 finished the Germans were beaten and the french so sick of the Germans invading them as they have had wars with Germany for a hundred years, and so they decided to cripple them both as a military force and as a nation with power.
If it wasn't for Britain and America being able to numb it and curb the less drastic demands. Germany would have been destroyed socilogicaly. However due to the still very harsh terms the German people were downtrodden and weakened politically and allowed for a man like Hitler to weasel his self in and was allowed to take control and turn his maniacal agenda to a war that claimed millions of lives and horrific war crimes.
And now 70 years on Germany is the political and economical center for Europe.......
@Aterons said:
Well... is that applicable to the Krogan.
I mean, in human culture you can make the argument that some people will be pro some contra killing babies . Some will say a human isn't a person up until it actually shows signs of intelligence other that it is even when it's in utero in the first day of contraception.
But Krogans have a culture were they willingly kill the weak ones trough trials and mothers only allow the stronger babies to survive the first years... so it isn't much a difference in ethics if you kill the weak ones year after they are born or if they are simply born dead.
You sound very very bad to be blunt. You sound racist and not at all Sociologically Sensitive.
Their society developed like that due to the Genophage, if your race is to survive in the very small amount of blood in the gene pool, you cannot allow imperfections rule it. Otherwise the race is destroyed by such things. It is something tribes in isolated areas of the world do. There is a tribe that live on some mountains that the food, resources and space are only so much. So you need to prove yourself that you should be allowed to live and use these resources and be cared for. That is why they will not care for their children untill they are 5 and then they work.. They do the basics feed and clean however everything else is up to the child.
They have pouches were the kid stays if they fall out the women will just laugh. If it is killed by an animal not a big deal. There was a story a sociologist watching them and a girl was led to a house, and left in their, the mother and father said they would return. They never did and she starved to death. When the sociologist asked them why the did it. They said they were testing her, to see if she was gullible....she was and thus she died, she never tried to escape, she never tried to survive. Thus by the way that the tribe operate she was not worthy to the small amount of food they have.
If they did not control their population they would all die.
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