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    Monster Hunter Tri

    Game » consists of 11 releases. Released Apr 20, 2010

    The first third-generation Monster Hunter game, Monster Hunter 3 (tri) represents a reboot to the franchise, with dozens of new monsters, items, weapons, and underwater combat.

    Monster Hunter 3 Gets A Perfect Score From Famitsu

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    #1  Edited By JJOR64

    I think I pooped my pants when read the title to THIS article from 1up.com.  It really shocks me.  Is this game really that good?  Maybe I will finally buy a Monster Hunter game when this game comes to the US.  What are your guy's thoughts about this score?

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    #2  Edited By Al3xand3r

    Eh, cool, as expected. It's the game's motherland after all. I posted about that in this thread, but here goes again I guess, supplementary info. 
     
    11 games have earned a perfect score in Famitsu so far. Only 6 of them are games on current generation platforms. 3 Wii. 2 DS. 1 PS3. 
     
    Japanese sales are out. 520,000 copies sold, in, a, full, weekend! I wonder about next week's numbers :-)
     
    It also boosted the Wii's weekly sales to something over 90,000 units. Weekly sales averaged 20,000 so far (about double the PS3's, in Japan).
     
    Not bad for a weekend's worth.

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    #3  Edited By keyhunter

    It's probably a terrible game. No doubt about it.

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    #4  Edited By giovannifrerer

    Honestly, I have never played Monster Hunter.  Despite this, I am intrigued at this score-there are many games with a lesser score that I hold in better standings

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    #5  Edited By Meowayne
    @JJOR64 said:
    " I think I pooped my pants when read the title to THIS article from 1up.com.  It really shocks me.  Is this game really that good? 
    Maybe, maybe not. Famitsu scores = (Hype/Japanese sales)². They are no indicator of quality.
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    #6  Edited By oldschool
    @Meowayne said:
    " @JJOR64 said:
    " I think I pooped my pants when read the title to THIS article from 1up.com.  It really shocks me.  Is this game really that good? 
    Maybe, maybe not. Famitsu scores = (Hype/Japanese sales)². They are no indicator of quality. "
    No reviews, irrespective of where they are derived from are an indicator of quality.  I am starting to get this uneasy feeling that attacking Famitsu scores as be somewhat xenophobic - "oh, that's just the Japanese".  I am not accusing anyone of anything, but why should we trust Famitsu any less than any other review site?  There is also the element that dopes will hate it because it is on the Wii and that compromises their prejudices.
     
    I am sure that this game is excellent, just as I believe also of Dragon Quest IX.  I look forward to the release locally as it will be very much high on my purchase list. 
     
    This is exactly the sales boost that the Wii needed in Japan, despite the fact that even at a slower rate, it was consistently outselling the PS3 two to one.
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    #7  Edited By animateria

    Monster Hunter is pretty....
     
    Hrm... Well, I can't recommend it to someone who doesn't have a high tolerance for punishment.
     
    And patience for that matter.
     
    I think it has a high learning curve, but over that steep hill you get one of the most satisfying game experiences you can ever find.
       
    I won't be surprised if this reviews low in the West. After playing the newest PSP game for around 150 hours, I think Western reviewers weren't patient enough to endure the punishment. 
     
    Most of them say playing singleplayer is too hard, I disagree. (To think I almost passed up on this game because of Western reviews!)
     
     

    Looking at the new batches of battles on Youtube, I can safely say this surpasses the other Monster Hunter games in its scale.
     
     Heck, one of the bosses are nearly three times as big as the largest one in Freedom Unite!
     
     
    But yeah, I can't recommend this game to anyone without warning.

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    #8  Edited By Linkyshinks
    @animateria said:
    " Monster Hunter is pretty....  Hrm... Well, I can't recommend it to someone who doesn't have a high tolerance for punishment.  And patience for that matter.  I think it has a high learning curve, but over that steep hill you get one of the most satisfying game experiences you can ever find.     I won't be surprised if this reviews low in the West. After playing the newest PSP game for around 150 hours, I think Western reviewers weren't patient enough to endure the punishment.   Most of them say playing singleplayer is too hard, I disagree. (To think I almost passed up on this game because of Western reviews!)  Looking at the new batches of battles on Youtube, I can safely say this surpasses the other Monster Hunter games in its scale.  Heck, one of the bosses are nearly three times as big as the largest one in Freedom Unite!   But yeah, I can't recommend this game to anyone without warning. "
    Which boss would that be dude?.
     
    I think this game undoubtedly satisfies MH fans first and foremost. As I've said before, as long as they put out a considerable amount of video tutorials, to help new players ease into the world of Monster Hunter, I think it will be OK.
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    #9  Edited By PureRok
    @oldschool: Dragon Quest IX I can attest to being awesome. I've played it myself, after all. Monster Hunter 3, I don't know. I didn't like the PSP demo of the PSP one, but it probably didn't help that my PSPs analog nub is kind of busted.
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    #10  Edited By VWGTI

    I wonder if the controls are as atrocious as they were in other versions of Monster Hunter.

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    #11  Edited By tokyochicken

    I'm not surprised Monster Hunter is super popular and heavily revered in Japan, something I can't understand at all.

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    #12  Edited By Meowayne
    @VWGTI said:
    " I wonder if the controls are as atrocious as they were in other versions of Monster Hunter. "
    I played the demo of MH3. I found the controls to be irritating because they were so archaic - mainly the camera control, lack of lock-on-targeting and incredibly slow attacking with big weapons - but in no way atrocious or per se bad. Regular 1999 action adventure controls. Think Ocarina of Time without the Z-button. I dont know, how do the other versions control?
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    #13  Edited By oldschool
    @PureRok said:
    " @oldschool: Dragon Quest IX I can attest to being awesome. I've played it myself, after all. Monster Hunter 3, I don't know. I didn't like the PSP demo of the PSP one, but it probably didn't help that my PSPs analog nub is kind of busted. "
    I ahve been ummming and ahhing for quite  a while about getting a PSP Monster Hunter game.  My problems is actually the PSP itself as even my favourite series(like Final Fantasy or Disgaea) hardly get me to play the PSP.  From a portable view, I wish more for a DS one.  Still, I am sure I will brave a PSP one sooner or later.@animateria said:
    " Monster Hunter is pretty....  Hrm... Well, I can't recommend it to someone who doesn't have a high tolerance for punishment.  And patience for that matter.  I think it has a high learning curve, but over that steep hill you get one of the most satisfying game experiences you can ever find.     I won't be surprised if this reviews low in the West. After playing the newest PSP game for around 150 hours, I think Western reviewers weren't patient enough to endure the punishment.   Most of them say playing singleplayer is too hard, I disagree. (To think I almost passed up on this game because of Western reviews!)  Looking at the new batches of battles on Youtube, I can safely say this surpasses the other Monster Hunter games in its scale.  Heck, one of the bosses are nearly three times as big as the largest one in Freedom Unite!   But yeah, I can't recommend this game to anyone without warning. "
    Well put.  Too many times people recommend a game without looking at it from another person's perspective.  After just clocking in 150 on Pokemon Platinum and still only having 5 badges, my ocd and pain threshhold is high  :-)  Kind makes me even more interested in a PSP Nomtster Hunter - they are pretty cheap on import.
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    #14  Edited By Al3xand3r

    Just try the PSP demo of Unite oldschool. It shows the core of the game, killing stuff bigger than your weapons, without all the RPG quest/grind fluff. If you can get used to the controls in that, then the WIi game will be fine for you too. Just keep in mind camera controls are far better on Wii, so if that's your main issue with the PSP versions, blame the PSP, as that issue didn't exist on PS2 and doesn't exist on Wii. Other than that, it's similar, with 3 being newer/better/more expanded. My experience with that demo, my first time in a Monster Hunter game, can be seen in this thread. I didn't think it's as bad for newbies as some people claimed. To begin with I recommend the lance + shield, the great sword, or the 1handed sword+shield, the other weapons are even more unwieldy to begin with, or more complex like the horns. I loved the lance.
     
    I would have perhaps bought it if I didn't want to wait for 3 so that I'm not burnt out in this type of gameplay by the time it arrives over here...

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    #15  Edited By TheMustacheHero

    Well it is a Japanese magazine.

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    #16  Edited By EvilTwin
    @oldschool said:
    "but why should we trust Famitsu any less than any other review site?"

    Because most of us can't read Japanese and have no indication of why we should believe anything they say.
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    #17  Edited By Al3xand3r

    Well, there are some quotes in the 1UP article... Of course, I don't see how one can be more confident about trusting an outlet simply because it's in their langauge. Unless you play the game by yourself, and thoroughly, you can't know if what they cite as good or bad is actually how the game really is, so, understanding what they say really doesn't make much of a difference. Anyone can justify his opinion by making shit up.
     
    Anyway, it's Monster Hunter and it's the first true sequel since the PS2 games. Of course it's highly regarded in Japan. Here, well, if you didn't like Monster Hunter before, it's not going to change your mind. Obviously. Still, it is what it is, and it seems to do that well, as any good sequel does.

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    #18  Edited By Epic1990
    @Linkyshinks: Eh, learning curve? Attack, attack dodge, attack. I didn't thinkg what I was doing was that hard.
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    #19  Edited By Al3xand3r

    So you beat all the monsters you met in the first time? You never needed to first get to know how they attack, maybe prepare better gear, which means you know more of the game to know where to get what, what to use where, etc? You didn't need to learn the abilities and timing of the different weapons? You didn't need to realise this isn't a Diablo clickfest where you can hammer potion hotkeys at any time to recover from anything? You didn't need to learn to prepare for the dangers ahead, say by keeping the right potions and food types with you, like poison antidotes or whatever else? There's learning curve, especially since it's so unique that any newcomer hasn't played anything similar really.
     
    Just because you sat through that process by yourself, or perhaps had the help of a friend who already knew, doesn't mean others are as patient, so as Linky said, video tutorials would go a long way in making the franchise more understandable and therefor more popular overseas.

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    #20  Edited By oldschool
    @EvilTwin said:
    " @oldschool said:
    "but why should we trust Famitsu any less than any other review site?"

    Because most of us can't read Japanese and have no indication of why we should believe anything they say. "
    ....ummmm, because they gave it a 10/10 and you can assume that what they say backs up the score?  You are not assuming that Europeans shouldn't trust English review sites because it is in English and have no indicatio of why they should believe anything they say?  Plus, as Al3x stated, there was some translated quotes in the 1Up piece.
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    #21  Edited By Drebin_893
    @Al3xand3r said:
    " So you beat all the monsters you met in the first time? You never needed to first get to know how they attack, maybe prepare better gear, which means you know more of the game to know where to get what, what to use where, etc? You didn't need to learn the abilities and timing of the different weapons? You didn't need to realise this isn't a Diablo clickfest where you can hammer potion hotkeys at any time to recover from anything? You didn't need to learn to prepare for the dangers ahead, say by keeping the right potions and food types with you, like poison antidotes or whatever else? There's learning curve, especially since it's so unique that any newcomer hasn't played anything similar really.  Just because you sat through that process by yourself, or perhaps had the help of a friend who already knew, doesn't mean others are as patient, so as Linky said, video tutorials would go a long way in making the franchise more understandable and therefor more popular overseas. "
    You're just such a horrible person. Your point is fine, but you put it across in the most arrogant manner.  
    I used to think red usernames were generally friendly and rational, but that's when I only really knew of LinksyShinks and get2samyb. You and very, very occasionally oldschool just come across as unreasonable fanboys.
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    #22  Edited By EvilTwin
    @oldschool said:
    " @EvilTwin said:
    " @oldschool said:
    "but why should we trust Famitsu any less than any other review site?"

    Because most of us can't read Japanese and have no indication of why we should believe anything they say. "
    ....ummmm, because they gave it a 10/10 and you can assume that what they say backs up the score?  You are not assuming that Europeans shouldn't trust English review sites because it is in English and have no indicatio of why they should believe anything they say?  Plus, as Al3x stated, there was some translated quotes in the 1Up piece. "
    I assume that if they all gave it a 10 that they all very much enjoyed it.  What I'm saying is that we have no idea what kind of people are reviewing this game.  We can't tell if their tastes in games run parallel with ours, or even if any of these writers are worth a damn at their job. 
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    #23  Edited By Icemael
    @Al3xand3r said:
    "Just keep in mind camera controls are far better on Wii, so if that's your main issue with the PSP versions, blame the PSP, as that issue didn't exist on PS2 and doesn't exist on Wii."
    How exactly does the camera work in MH3? The Wii controls only have one analogue stick, so I really can't see how the camera control could be good. If it's controlled with the D-pad(like in Okami) I guess it'd be better than the PSP's camera, but it'd still be really clunky.
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    #24  Edited By animateria
    @Linkyshinks:  
     
        

    I've seen actual gameplay footage as well... Apparently you have to fighting on a boat in-game, then on foot.
     
    Honestly, Youtube has been the greatest place for newbies to understand boss behavior as well as weapon usage. It eased me into MHFU quite well. 
     
    Edit: Woops... found one with sound.
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    #25  Edited By BrainSpecialist

    Look, in case you've all forgotten, Super Smash Bros Brawl got 40/40. It's also AWESOME. FUCKING AWESOME.

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    #26  Edited By Al3xand3r
    @Icemael said:

    " @Al3xand3r said:

    "Just keep in mind camera controls are far better on Wii, so if that's your main issue with the PSP versions, blame the PSP, as that issue didn't exist on PS2 and doesn't exist on Wii."

    How exactly does the camera work in MH3? The Wii controls only have one analogue stick, so I really can't see how the camera control could be good. If it's controlled with the D-pad(like in Okami) I guess it'd be better than the PSP's camera, but it'd still be really clunky. "
    The d-pad if you use the remote + nunchuck, the right analog stick if you use the classic controller. I'll go with the latter.
     

    @Drebin_893 said:

    " You're just such a horrible person. Your point is fine, but you put it across in the most arrogant manner.  
    I used to think red usernames were generally friendly and rational, but that's when I only really knew of LinksyShinks and get2samyb. You and very, very occasionally oldschool just come across as unreasonable fanboys. "

    My username isn't red, so keep thinking so. Also, hmm, I remember you from somewhere. Right, you called me out for lying, trash talking like here, then disappeared after I presented data showing you were just ignorant (posts #16 & #17) . Yep, I'll take attitude lessons from you, sure.
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    #27  Edited By oldschool
    @EvilTwin said:
    " @oldschool said:
    " @EvilTwin said:
    " @oldschool said:
    "but why should we trust Famitsu any less than any other review site?"

    Because most of us can't read Japanese and have no indication of why we should believe anything they say. "
    ....ummmm, because they gave it a 10/10 and you can assume that what they say backs up the score?  You are not assuming that Europeans shouldn't trust English review sites because it is in English and have no indicatio of why they should believe anything they say?  Plus, as Al3x stated, there was some translated quotes in the 1Up piece. "
    I assume that if they all gave it a 10 that they all very much enjoyed it.  What I'm saying is that we have no idea what kind of people are reviewing this game.  We can't tell if their tastes in games run parallel with ours, or even if any of these writers are worth a damn at their job.  "
    We generally can't make that conclusion about English speaking reviewers either.  It is a highly respected Japanese magazine and therefore a safe bet to assume they are good at their job.  However, like all reviewers, it doesn't mean that their tastes and opinions will match up with yours or mine.  My point all along is that they deserve the same respect as other "respected" games "journalists".
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    #28  Edited By oldschool
    @Drebin_893 said:
    " You and very, very occasionally oldschool just come across as unreasonable fanboys. "
    No, I am sorry I have to disagree with you on that.  Sometimes I am an unreasonable arsehole, but not a fanboy.  My record of diversity and taste speaks against that.  So, in future, please refer to me as an occassional unreasonable arsehole.  Thanks  :-)
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    #29  Edited By VWGTI
    @Meowayne: 
     
    Alright, I busted out Monster Hunter Freedom 2 for the PSP last night to understand again why I hated the controls so much. After it all came back to me it turns out that the controls aren't half bad, it's the camera that screws everything up. 
     
    I had one cheap death last night due to the bad camera. As I was hunting mammoth-type things a giant wayvrn flew down and began attacking me. Of course I was panicing because I was in no way ready to battle a creature like that yet, so I proceeded to run for dear life. I happened to run into a wall that was behind me and the camera shot up into the air obscuring my view. I could no longer see where I was trying to go, but by the time I was able to fix the camera the Wayvren had its way with me. :(
     
    Also, there are some weird inconsistencies with the controls. For example, some boxes you approach have to be opened up with the Square button, others open up using the Circle button. You get used to the switch up after a while, but at first you'll accidentally use items because you press the wrong button.
     
    Other than those hang-ups the game is a blast. I got hooked on Monster Hunter all over again thanks to this topic. Now I'm actively looking forward to Monster Hunter Tri. :)
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    #30  Edited By Linkyshinks
    @animateria said:

    " @Linkyshinks:  
     

         I've seen actual gameplay footage as well... Apparently you have to fighting on a boat in-game, then on foot.  Honestly, Youtube has been the greatest place for newbies to understand boss behavior as well as weapon usage. It eased me into MHFU quite well.   Edit: Woops... found one with sound. "
    That looks awesome. I'm going to look out for some of that gameplay, although I don't want too many spoliers though, I still want that feeling of exploration on my first play. I love the look of the water levels, too.
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    #31  Edited By demonbear
    @Meowayne said:
    " @JJOR64 said:
    " I think I pooped my pants when read the title to THIS article from 1up.com.  It really shocks me.  Is this game really that good? 
    Maybe, maybe not. Famitsu scores = (Hype/Japanese sales)². They are no indicator of quality. "
    JJOR64 is right. Famitsu is being ridiculously pro-japanese development lately. Anything made there with somewhat of an interesting budget is given a 10 and much much hype. 
     
    Still cant believe they'll ask for a monthly fee for online coop.... its ridiculous.
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    #32  Edited By Al3xand3r

    That battle looks insane, I saw a vid where they're on a boat and the guy jumps on the dragon and wanders about (it's HUGE) looking for rocks to MINE off of it... Then he gets shaken off and is dragged from the sand boat by a rope he climbs to get back on, with the dragon to the side, sand going off of his scales, it looked awesome... I should stop looking @ vids, these must be major bosses and one was spoiled to me :(
     
    As for Famitsu, they've only given 6 perfect scores this generation (including the DS in this), that's certainly a lot more than they did in the past, but it's also certainly less than many Western publications which you're all fine with... O noes, high scoring Wii game, lets find why it's wrong.

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