It was a painless process. i downloaded Crysis 2, it was maybe a little slower then steam (took about 4 hours or so). The app it self is pretty bland there is a friends list but i have no Origin friends so thats empty. The nice thing i could say about the service is that it is not required to run in the background when you launch your game. if im offline it never asks me to log into origin before i get into Crysis 2 and again its pretty painless. it has none of the great community features that steam has, but as just a digital store it works and its not a hassle. just though i share.
So i used Origin the other day
@Laketown said:
your topic title makes it sound like origin is a drug.
"so I shot up with Origin the other day..."
Dude, I used Origin and then watched Speed Racer. That shit was AWESOME.
Well, it's good that it's a fairly painless process. I think the assumption for many people is that it would be overly intrusive, since that's just how EA rolls with its in-game stuff. I just... kinda wish I could get all EA's stuff on Steam.
Also, yes, Origin sounds like a drug you'd take in Fallout to regenerate AP. Or maybe I'm just playing too much New Vegas...
@Laketown said:
your topic title makes it sound like origin is a drug.
"so I shot up with Origin the other day..."
lol yes and now im seeing the EA logo on all my loved ones faces. i thought it was completely unrelated.
@Mikemcn said:
It doesn't need to exist, thats all there is to it, EA is just being greedy.
Yeah well i dont think its going away anytime soon and Dragon Age II just disappeared from steam so unless they work it out i guess we are stuck with it.
@Mikemcn said:
It doesn't need to exist, thats all there is to it, EA is just being greedy.
and why should EA share DLC profits with steam? Its not 'greedy', its just part of the business.
Its was just a matter of "when" will the other big publishers establish their own PC-centric digital download services.
Also, its not like they are charging more to the consumers.
@niamahai said:
@Mikemcn said:
It doesn't need to exist, thats all there is to it, EA is just being greedy.
and why should EA share DLC profits with steam? Its not 'greedy', its just part of the business.
Its was just a matter of "when" will the other big publishers establish their own PC-centric digital download services.
Also, its not like they are charging more to the consumers.
No, for the past 20 years publishers have been fine sharing their profits with retailers, Steam should be no different, just because they can squeeze more money out of their customers by making all games exclusive to their publisher specific service doesn't mean they should. I don't give a fuck if it's good business, its wrong and we have every right to be opposed to it.
@Mikemcnsaid:
@niamahai said:
@Mikemcn said:
It doesn't need to exist, thats all there is to it, EA is just being greedy.
and why should EA share DLC profits with steam? Its not 'greedy', its just part of the business.
Its was just a matter of "when" will the other big publishers establish their own PC-centric digital download services.
Also, its not like they are charging more to the consumers.
No, for the past 20 years publishers have been fine sharing their profits with retailers, Steam should be no different, just because they can squeeze more money out of their customers by making all games exclusive to their publisher specific service doesn't mean they should. I don't give a fuck if it's good business, its wrong and we have every right to be opposed to it.
Isn't this what Valve intended when HL2 was released with its Steam 1st policy?
How are they "squeezing more money out of their customers" by making them download a free download client?@niamahai said:
@Mikemcn said:
It doesn't need to exist, thats all there is to it, EA is just being greedy.
and why should EA share DLC profits with steam? Its not 'greedy', its just part of the business.
Its was just a matter of "when" will the other big publishers establish their own PC-centric digital download services.
Also, its not like they are charging more to the consumers.
No, for the past 20 years publishers have been fine sharing their profits with retailers, Steam should be no different, just because they can squeeze more money out of their customers by making all games exclusive to their publisher specific service doesn't mean they should. I don't give a fuck if it's good business, its wrong and we have every right to be opposed to it.
herp derp fight tha power anarchy 4 lyfe xD
Anyway, just used Origin to download the BF3 alpha. Took something like 15 minutes to fully download almost a 3 gig file. I prefer having all my stuff in one place, but as a service Origin is abso-fucking-lutely fine.
@Mikemcn said:
@niamahai said:
@Mikemcn said:
It doesn't need to exist, thats all there is to it, EA is just being greedy.
and why should EA share DLC profits with steam? Its not 'greedy', its just part of the business.
Its was just a matter of "when" will the other big publishers establish their own PC-centric digital download services.
Also, its not like they are charging more to the consumers.
No, for the past 20 years publishers have been fine sharing their profits with retailers, Steam should be no different, just because they can squeeze more money out of their customers by making all games exclusive to their publisher specific service doesn't mean they should. I don't give a fuck if it's good business, its wrong and we have every right to be opposed to it.
EA most likely looked at this way. it doesn't matter if a EA game out sells a Valve game on Steam because Valve is still making a profit off all its competitors. I love steam and i wish in a perfect world i could use Steam for everything my PC my Xbox, my PS3err my dead PS3. but its just business. and its nice that the system is not as intrusive as EA's past services have been.
with that said i do find my self buying EA games off steam before then end up disappearing.
@Three0neFive said:
@Mikemcn said:How are they "squeezing more money out of their customers" by making them download a free download client? herp derp fight tha power anarchy 4 lyfe xD@niamahai said:
@Mikemcn said:
It doesn't need to exist, thats all there is to it, EA is just being greedy.
and why should EA share DLC profits with steam? Its not 'greedy', its just part of the business.
Its was just a matter of "when" will the other big publishers establish their own PC-centric digital download services.
Also, its not like they are charging more to the consumers.
No, for the past 20 years publishers have been fine sharing their profits with retailers, Steam should be no different, just because they can squeeze more money out of their customers by making all games exclusive to their publisher specific service doesn't mean they should. I don't give a fuck if it's good business, its wrong and we have every right to be opposed to it.
Because when you buy BF3 for 60 bucks on Steam, Valve gets a cut, when you buy BF3 on Origin, EA gets all the money. Not that complex duder. If I buy BF3 i'll get it from Amazon or something I guess.
THANK GOD. i thought you'd have to have it running while playing EA games. so you just download, and then you can just launch it regularly? this isnt nearly as bad as i thought. and i assume if you can just launch it regularly you could just make a steam shortcut?It was a painless process. i downloaded Crysis 2, it was maybe a little slower then steam (took about 4 hours or so). The app it self is pretty bland there is a friends list but i have no Origin friends so thats empty. The nice thing i could say about the service is that it is not required to run in the background when you launch your game. if im offline it never asks me to log into origin before i get into Crysis 2 and again its pretty painless. it has none of the great community features that steam has, but as just a digital store it works and its not a hassle. just though i share.
@captain_clayman said:
@Jackel2072 said:THANK GOD. i thought you'd have to have it running while playing EA games. so you just download, and then you can just launch it regularly? this isnt nearly as bad as i thought. and i assume if you can just launch it regularly you could just make a steam shortcut?It was a painless process. i downloaded Crysis 2, it was maybe a little slower then steam (took about 4 hours or so). The app it self is pretty bland there is a friends list but i have no Origin friends so thats empty. The nice thing i could say about the service is that it is not required to run in the background when you launch your game. if im offline it never asks me to log into origin before i get into Crysis 2 and again its pretty painless. it has none of the great community features that steam has, but as just a digital store it works and its not a hassle. just though i share.
i have never launched Crysis 2 from the Origin app just the game short cut on my desktop. and again it makes no mention of Origin anything it just loads the game.
No, that's not how it works. You're still paying the exact same thing for the exact same product. The only difference is that they no longer have to split any of their profits with Valve.@Three0neFive said:
@Mikemcn said:How are they "squeezing more money out of their customers" by making them download a free download client? herp derp fight tha power anarchy 4 lyfe xD@niamahai said:
@Mikemcn said:
It doesn't need to exist, thats all there is to it, EA is just being greedy.
and why should EA share DLC profits with steam? Its not 'greedy', its just part of the business.
Its was just a matter of "when" will the other big publishers establish their own PC-centric digital download services.
Also, its not like they are charging more to the consumers.
No, for the past 20 years publishers have been fine sharing their profits with retailers, Steam should be no different, just because they can squeeze more money out of their customers by making all games exclusive to their publisher specific service doesn't mean they should. I don't give a fuck if it's good business, its wrong and we have every right to be opposed to it.
Because when you buy BF3 for 60 bucks on Steam, Valve gets a cut, when you buy BF3 on Origin, EA gets all the money. Not that complex duder. If I buy BF3 i'll get it from Amazon or something I guess.
On the business side Origin is a great move. On the consumer side it makes absolutely no fucking difference. You just think you're being edgy with your "down with corporations! I don't want them to make profit regardless of the fact that it doesn't affect me at all!" bullshit.
@niamahai said:
@Mikemcn said:
Because when you buy BF3 for 60 bucks at Target, Target gets a cut, when you buy BF3 on Origin, EA gets all the money. Not that complex duder. I suppose the solution is to buy in the store then, right?
but YOU are still paying $60!!!
AAAAAAAAAARRRGHHHHHHH
That makes no difference; EA is still squeezing more money out of you. He's not saying it in a sense of "The consumer has to pay more money through Origin."
@niamahai said:
@Mikemcn said:
Because when you buy BF3 for 60 bucks at Target, Target gets a cut, when you buy BF3 on Origin, EA gets all the money. Not that complex duder. I suppose the solution is to buy in the store then, right?
but YOU are still paying $60!!!
AAAAAAAAAARRRGHHHHHHH
Uhhhh, because if Origin gives you a deal, then Walmart and GameStop won't buy the game from EA at all, and then EA will be the only place to buy it, in which case they'll sell it for $60. Then, the retailers will want to buy it too, cuz it's $60, but then EA will give you a discount, which will then make the stores not buy it, then EA will make the price $60, then the stores will buy it again...
You see, you're always going to pay $60.
Pretty much the same experience. Fast load, attractive interface and non intrusiveness makes it hard to critique the client for anything. My experience with customer service has also been nothing but positive so far. You can fault EA for a lot of things but Origin isn't one of them.
Steam has a clause that says they can delete all of your games at any point that they wish, but they obviously never intend to do that either. Companies simply include such a line so that their butts will be covered legally under worst case scenarios. It's a shame that there was such a hubbub made about it a while ago, Origin got a lot of unjust negative press.Just fyi, before someone mentions that Origin will delete your games after 2 years of non-use, that legal clause only says that they can do so, not that they will. They probably never will.
@Levio said:I wouldn't say it's unjust considering EA's past history of complete and utter shit customer service and customer relations management when it came to digital distribution. Actually, they just had shit customer relation management in general. Between Valve and EA, I trust Valve far more when it comes to believing that my games will be there in my account when I wake up tomorrow.Steam has a clause that says they can delete all of your games at any point that they wish, but they obviously never intend to do that either. Companies simply include such a line so that their butts will be covered legally under worst case scenarios. It's a shame that there was such a hubbub made about it a while ago, Origin got a lot of unjust negative press.Just fyi, before someone mentions that Origin will delete your games after 2 years of non-use, that legal clause only says that they can do so, not that they will. They probably never will.
@Mikemcn said:It does make a difference, I want to choose the option where the asshole publisher gets the least amount of money out of me, and where I dont have to give my credit info to yet another online download client. I wish i could just not buy the game, but I want it so I have to put up with it.No, that's not how it works. You're still paying the exact same thing for the exact same product. The only difference is that they no longer have to split any of their profits with Valve.@Three0neFive said:
@Mikemcn said:How are they "squeezing more money out of their customers" by making them download a free download client? herp derp fight tha power anarchy 4 lyfe xD@niamahai said:
@Mikemcn said:
It doesn't need to exist, thats all there is to it, EA is just being greedy.
and why should EA share DLC profits with steam? Its not 'greedy', its just part of the business.
Its was just a matter of "when" will the other big publishers establish their own PC-centric digital download services.
Also, its not like they are charging more to the consumers.
No, for the past 20 years publishers have been fine sharing their profits with retailers, Steam should be no different, just because they can squeeze more money out of their customers by making all games exclusive to their publisher specific service doesn't mean they should. I don't give a fuck if it's good business, its wrong and we have every right to be opposed to it.
Because when you buy BF3 for 60 bucks on Steam, Valve gets a cut, when you buy BF3 on Origin, EA gets all the money. Not that complex duder. If I buy BF3 i'll get it from Amazon or something I guess.
On the business side Origin is a great move. On the consumer side it makes absolutely no fucking difference. You just think you're being edgy with your "down with corporations! I don't want them to make profit regardless of the fact that it doesn't affect me at all!" bullshit.
See, I can understand that - don't like something, don't support it. I still don't agree with your opinion, but it's much better reasoning than "durr they're squeezing money out of people".@Three0neFive
@Mikemcn said:It does make a difference, I want to choose the option where the asshole publisher gets the least amount of money out of me, and where I dont have to give my credit info to yet another online download client. I wish i could just not buy the game, but I want it so I have to put up with it.No, that's not how it works. You're still paying the exact same thing for the exact same product. The only difference is that they no longer have to split any of their profits with Valve.@Three0neFive said:
@Mikemcn said:How are they "squeezing more money out of their customers" by making them download a free download client? herp derp fight tha power anarchy 4 lyfe xD@niamahai said:
@Mikemcn said:
It doesn't need to exist, thats all there is to it, EA is just being greedy.
and why should EA share DLC profits with steam? Its not 'greedy', its just part of the business.
Its was just a matter of "when" will the other big publishers establish their own PC-centric digital download services.
Also, its not like they are charging more to the consumers.
No, for the past 20 years publishers have been fine sharing their profits with retailers, Steam should be no different, just because they can squeeze more money out of their customers by making all games exclusive to their publisher specific service doesn't mean they should. I don't give a fuck if it's good business, its wrong and we have every right to be opposed to it.
Because when you buy BF3 for 60 bucks on Steam, Valve gets a cut, when you buy BF3 on Origin, EA gets all the money. Not that complex duder. If I buy BF3 i'll get it from Amazon or something I guess.
On the business side Origin is a great move. On the consumer side it makes absolutely no fucking difference. You just think you're being edgy with your "down with corporations! I don't want them to make profit regardless of the fact that it doesn't affect me at all!" bullshit.
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