@rjayb89: There are other podcasts out there besides hypeman stuff. Talkradar (very immature compared to GB, but heavy on antics; I read news on their site since I don't like Joystiq or Kotaku), 4pp (just a bunch of dudes who play games), and In-game chat (also a bunch of dudes).

@Wrighteous86 said:

I don't know that fans clamoring for an Endurance Run will accept or be satisfied by an "intern" ER. The reason they wanted another ER is because of the staff's personalities, otherwise they'd just watch any number of Let's Plays on YouTube by people who are as interesting or relatable as Matt Kessler. If that's what they do, good for them, but I think it will just make internet demand for a "real" ER increase.

I don't care about ER's one way or the other...but I predict a shitstorm of bitching if it's 20 hours of Kessler playing Shenmue or something.

You're right, I couldn't care less about an intern ED, that's no different then a Let's Play. I hope the GB staff realise this.

A Dave/Vinny PC endurance run is something I approve of. And why focus on vanilla games? An endurance run of say, the Oblivion mod Nehrim? Or the original Deus Ex with the New Vision mod?

@laserbolts said:

While a new ER is good news it feels as if they are doing it for different reasons than the others. The persona one was done because they wanted to do it but this one feels like it will be done to please the community. They stated in the past that they won't do another one so I assumed that they didn't want to do it again. Either way it should be good content I just hope they are genuinely into doing it. I wouldn't be surprised if it's an old snes game or something. Jeff said he hasn't played chrono trigger so maybe that may happen?

It would be hard to watch them play snes games. Probably going to be a game with voice acting, this generation of consoles or PS2, something T-M rated, not something that'll exceed 60 hours, and isn't unbearable like DP's mechanics.

Also, I hope Patrick gets roped into it. I feel like him and Vinny are the only two with the energy to play through a whole game without being miserable like Jeff. Either that or they just need to enjoy the game no matter what, that's how I got through DP - I hated myself more for having finished FF13 than DP for that reason.

I think it's pretty stupid when people talk down the interns. Get over yourselves. The Fear Gauntlet has been good and the Resi Evil ones especially. I'd have watched more of that. And people need to relax about the new ER, I'm sure it'll be good.

What I gather from the OP: "disappointing show...actually, show was great...actually, it wasn't that great."

First off, make up your mind before posting something like this the day after the panel, on the website the panel was for. Secondly, you should already know what you're going to get with GB--you either love it or hate it, so take it or leave it.

Since this has basically turned into an ER thread I'll just address that (Sorry OP!):
 
Hope they aren't just rushing something out to appease members come September. It is paramount that they only do it for the right game and with Vinny and Jeff. I'd be really surprised if we see it before the end of the year considering how busy Q4 is.
 
OP: As fascinating as it is to listen to Paul Barnett it is a disapointment to hear that he was basically just schilling for his game. Understandable though.

How can you be disappointed with the announcement of a new Endurance Run?

Interesting choice of words by Jeff on this Formspring page:

Question: What's the point of another ER other than pandering to your base to increase subscription numbers?

Jeff: Some guys want to do one so they're going to do one.

Note the "they're going to do one"...

Anyway, let the haters hate as far as the ER is concerned. As long as the ER isn't just Jeff sitting there bitching and moaning the entire time because he doesn't want to do another ER then I will watch it. 

VINNY AND RYAN COME ON

I WILL ALSO TAKE DAVE, OR DREW

@Brodehouse said:

Endurance Run; most popular feature the site has ever had, cheaper and easier to edit than video reviews, events or interviews, and completely loathed by the staff. Nonsensical.

Most of all I wish they would stop making excuses and just admit they hate doing it. They've come up with 'it costs too much time', but of course, they're more popular than anything outside of Quick Looks, and they would never think about cancelling Quick Looks because they take too long to record. There's 'there's more important business during the day' which I'm baffled by. Patrick and Alex do the news, you have three editors and only one or two games played for review a week, and events and showcases don't happen every single day. Bah, whatever.

Word.

I am very excited to see this panel. Even though it may not have lived up to this gentleman's standards, the panels are always fun.

I want a DV team, a PV team, a VJ team, a BV team and RV team!

@mnzy said:

@crusader8463 said:

Anyway, let the haters hate as far as the ER is concerned. As long as the ER isn't just Jeff sitting there bitching and moaning the entire time because he doesn't want to do another ER then I will watch it.

Jeff said on Formspring: "Some guys want to do one so they're going to do one." Sounds like he won't be part of it.

Haha wow, way to be part of the team jeff.

The very fact of being there and experiencing Giant Bomb live was enough for me. I live in the UK, and as the World Tour has been scrapped, PAX is one of the few possible ways of meeting them. Sure, I was a little miffed by the panel being cut short, but I'm happy they put it on in the first place.

Also, they stayed behind for TWO hours afterwards to meet everyone. That made up for the cut on the panel.

Fuck another Atlus game. ER fanboys: accept some variety. I'll take an ER of literally anything but another Atlus game.

I really hope Vinny is in it at least

@Binbay55 said:

We were talking to Jeff after the show and he said that he would not be part of the next ER. The time they spent after the show was really great. The guys all signed my report card! Jeff is my new dad apparently!! AHA!

That was really cool of them. Sounds like a good show.

I enjoyed Jeff's comments and what he brought to the 2 ERs. I'm pretty excited for his Wall of Fame stuff though so it should all work out.

I loved all 3 ERs. I wouldn't have normally played either game, ever. But I opened one of the later episodes of the Deadly Premonition run and immediately ordered the game off of Amazon. Played thru it. Watched the both teams run thru it. Had an AMAZING time. Then I watched the entire first ER - Persona 4. it was great fun watching the guys run through it. I picked up Persona 3 and played thru it afterwards. super easy and the story was a little annoying but it had some cool ideas in there. It's a game type that I would have missed out on if not for the ER.

I can't wait to see what game came along that got them in the mood for an ER.

I'm also really excited for the "load some random save and play" idea. That sounds Amazing! Damn. That's how I play! Oh yeah, that game from 3 years ago, where was I? Right at some boss fight? ...

I'm up for more intern abuse too. Some of those guys are actually pretty amusing.

Overall it sounds like they are doing some great stuff and have a lot of fantastic ideas. Hell I'd pay just to support the Bombcast. The awesome game wiki, forums, videos, one-off shows, achievement lists, reviews, articles, and everything else locks it down.

I guess after all those mean comments made about the Ico QL I kinda understand Brad wanting to move on. Hopefully he will enjoy working at Blizzard more.

@Milkman said:

Yay, more bitching from the community. What else is new?

amen brother, sometimes these guys seriously symbolize the saying "damned if you do, damned if you don't"

like, if you don't like what they are doing or you don't care for another endurance run then gtfo or hell don't watch it, just stop killing it for ppl as there are some members that are genuinely excited for another ER

They should've cut questions. I have to question the logic of having Jeff Green, Johnny V, and Adam Boyes in the front row and they decide to take bad questions.

@HandsomeDevil said:

They should've cut questions. I have to question the logic of having Jeff Green, Johnny V, and Adam Boyes in the front row and they decide to take bad questions.

It's not the GB crew's fault when people in the Q&A ask questions that aren't so great, just as it isn't their fault that the panel got cut short by half an hour.

Not going to tell the guys what to do or what not to do but for me personally I just couldn't get through it. I stopped around half way in the Paul and Carrie segment. I just wasn't really amused or interested in it. It's hard doing a show in front of a crowd and with all the other factors I can see it being a nightmare so I'm not going to bitch about like some people, it just wasn't for me.

@Jimbo said:

Ugh, ER is a massive waste of manhours. I probably won't member up this year if half of it's gonna be taken up by ER.

Dont be butthurt because 90% of the community wants a ER and you don't.

 as there are some members that are genuinely excited for another ER

@Hailinel said:

@HandsomeDevil said:

They should've cut questions. I have to question the logic of having Jeff Green, Johnny V, and Adam Boyes in the front row and they decide to take bad questions.

It's not the GB crew's fault when people in the Q&A ask questions that aren't so great, just as it isn't their fault that the panel got cut short by half an hour.

I'm not saying it's their fault Q and A is almost always terrible, I'm just saying they should've used the talent better.

@McShank said:

@Jimbo said:

Ugh, ER is a massive waste of manhours. I probably won't member up this year if half of it's gonna be taken up by ER.

Dont be butthurt because 90% of the community wants a ER and you don't.

90% of the community want to stare into Vinny's dreamy eyes while he strokes their hair, that doesn't mean it should happen.

Besides, I think they should be looking outwards with new content, not inwards - they already have the mancrush brigade. GB ought to be about games coverage delivered by personalities, not personalities delivered by games, imo.

Just watched the video of the panel, besides it ending early it seemed pretty entertaining to me.

Carrie just needs to jump jeff's bones and get it over with. The panel was great except vinny/brad/patrick had maybe 4 lines each, and carrie bless her soul, was talking about a PC game to an audience full of console gamers. Maybe she was trying to redeem herself in front of her peers, considering she was extremely apologetic for warhammer, "nobody wants to make a shitty game" her exact words.... sounds like she wants to get away from EA. Not surprised considering the fight EA picked with steam is going to bury EA.

@dungbootle said:

Whatever happens I hope they don't force themselves to do something they hate.

You mean like play games? LoL Jeff even brought up during the panel that in his line of work journalists (himself) become very jaded being exposed to so many games.

@Jimbo said:

@McShank said:

@Jimbo said:

Ugh, ER is a massive waste of manhours. I probably won't member up this year if half of it's gonna be taken up by ER.

Dont be butthurt because 90% of the community wants a ER and you don't.

90% of the community want to stare into Vinny's dreamy eyes while he strokes their hair, that doesn't mean it should happen.

Besides, I think they should be looking outwards with new content, not inwards - they already have the mancrush brigade. GB ought to be about games coverage delivered by personalities, not personalities delivered by games, imo.

So what your saying is that they should just keep doing what they have been doing and not have a little extra fun once in a while? As people have been saying, ER's would have them subscribe which means more money for the whiskey media and more peeps on the site. If you can honestly tell me that more people subscribing to the site and helping the crew continue doing what they love is a bad thing then i dont believe you need to even be here. They already bring news of almost every game as soon as they hear about it vs the what? 2 ER's they have done if even that? Did you not watch the persona 4 one? It is not like they do this monthly, so get over your high and mighty self and enjoy what they bring to you whether its exactly what you want or not.

Highlight of the show for me, second only to Aquisitions Inc, only because it was (and would have been regardless) longer. It was an awesome show, you would have waited longer than you sat there anyway, stop whining. It was awesome, be glad you got to experience it first hand.

Even if that queue room was fucking the hottest place on the entire face of the Earth, that panel was still awesome.

Endurance Run needs to be Night Trap. The Time Trotter episode will likely never be seen.

So what your saying is that they should just keep doing what they have been doing and not have a little extra fun once in a while?

ER's aren't recorded in some kind of time vacuum.  ER's = less time for other content.  This should go without saying.

@McShank said:

As people have been saying, ER's would have them subscribe which means more money for the whiskey media and more peeps on the site.

Does it? We'll see.  Has it even been announced as subscription content?

@McShank said:

If you can honestly tell me that more people subscribing to the site and helping the crew continue doing what they love is a bad thing then i dont believe you need to even be here.

Yep, they love it.  That's why they've had to be relentlessly hounded into doing another ER since the last one ended, because they love it so much. (Also, I literally could not care less whether you believe I need to be here or not.)
 
@McShank said:

They already bring news of almost every game as soon as they hear about it....

They really don't.  Many games already get little or no coverage even when they aren't recording ER's.  I appreciate they have limited resources, and I also appreciate that dedicating those resources to ER for ~3 months means they have less available for other (and I would argue better) things.
 
@McShank said:

It is not like they do this monthly, so get over your high and mighty self and enjoy what they bring to you whether its exactly what you want or not.

No.  I'm not a guest at their house; I'm a paying customer and this is feedback.  Not all feedback is gonna be positive (see also: the title of this thread).  It's up to them whether they listen to it or not -I ain't saying they have to- and it's up to me whether I resubscribe or not.  I do think they run the risk of GB becoming stuck in a rut if they spend too much energy pandering to their hardcore / slightly creepy fanboy audience at the expense of content with a wider appeal, but that's up to them.

Yay, more bitching from the community. What else is new?

@dungbootle said:

Whatever happens I hope they don't force themselves to do something they hate.

You mean like play games? LoL Jeff even brought up during the panel that in his line of work journalists (himself) become very jaded being exposed to so many games.

Started 15 minutes late, and ended 30 minutes early =(. Left a bad taste in everyone's mouth, (presenters included) so thought I'd make a post about it. I know I personally was in line for ~2 hours and wasn't anywhere near the front, so hopefully those before me don't feel as disappointed with the Variety Hour as I do. Just not the best way to end the night waiting more time for an event, than the event itself lasted (according to the schedule). I know that's par for the course at PAX, but still a bummer to have it happen with GB, especially when it's too late to get into any other events (such as concerts) because of timing.

TLDR: Airing grievances! Carry on.