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    New PC Build - Buying it soon, what do you think?

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    Edited By Chummy8

    I desperately need to upgrade the glorified calculator that is my laptop.  So, since I'm getting some back-pay that is owed to me, I'm getting a new computer.  Here is the build, what do you think? 
     

    Configuration

    • CD: 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive (BLACK COLOR)
    • CAS: * In-Win Ironclad Full Tower Gaming Case w/ 220MM Side Panel Fan (Green Color )
    • CS_FAN: Default case fans
    • CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-960 3.20 GHz 8M Intel Smart Cache LGA1366
    • FREEBIE_CU: FREE Game: Just Cause 2
    • FAN: Asetek 510LC Liquid Cooling System 120MM Radiator & Fan (Enhanced Cooling Performance + Extreme Silent at 20dBA)
    • GEAR1: Logitech Dual Action Gamepad 
    • HDD: 30 GB Kingston 2.5 inch SATA Gaming MLC Solid State Disk (Single Hard Drive)
    • HDD2: 1TB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 64MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (Single Hard Drive)
    • KEYBOARD: Xtreme Gear (Black Color) Multimedia/Internet USB Keyboard
    • MOUSE: XtremeGear Optical USB 3 Buttons Gaming Mouse
    • MOTHERBOARD: * (3-Way SLI Support) GigaByte GA-X58A-UD3R Intel X58 Chipset SLI/CrossFireX Ultra Durable™3 Triple-Channel DDR3/1600 ATX Mainboard w/ 7.1 Dolby Audio, eSATA, GbLAN, USB3.0, 2 x SATA-III RAID, IEEE1394a, 4 Gen2 PCIe, 2 PCIe X1 & 1 PCI
    • MEMORY: 6GB (2GBx3) DDR3/1333MHz Triple Channel Memory (Corsair or Major Brand)
    • MULTIVIEW: Non-SLI/Non-CrossFireX Mode Supports Multiple Monitors
    • NETWORK: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
    • OVERCLOCK: No Overclocking
    • OS: Microsoft® Windows® 7 Home Premium (64-bit Edition)
    • POWERSUPPLY: 800 Watts - XtremeGear Gaming Power Supply - Quad SLI Ready
    • SERVICE: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
    • SOFT1: Microsoft® Office® 2010 Home and Student (Word, Excel, PowerPoint + OneNote) 
    • SOUND: ESS 3D WAVETABLE SOUND PCI 
    • SPEAKERS: 120 Watt Stereo Speakers  (Black Color)
    • USB: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
    • VIDEO: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 470 1.2GB 16X PCIe Video Card (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)

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    #1  Edited By Chummy8

    I desperately need to upgrade the glorified calculator that is my laptop.  So, since I'm getting some back-pay that is owed to me, I'm getting a new computer.  Here is the build, what do you think? 
     

    Configuration

    • CD: 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive (BLACK COLOR)
    • CAS: * In-Win Ironclad Full Tower Gaming Case w/ 220MM Side Panel Fan (Green Color )
    • CS_FAN: Default case fans
    • CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-960 3.20 GHz 8M Intel Smart Cache LGA1366
    • FREEBIE_CU: FREE Game: Just Cause 2
    • FAN: Asetek 510LC Liquid Cooling System 120MM Radiator & Fan (Enhanced Cooling Performance + Extreme Silent at 20dBA)
    • GEAR1: Logitech Dual Action Gamepad 
    • HDD: 30 GB Kingston 2.5 inch SATA Gaming MLC Solid State Disk (Single Hard Drive)
    • HDD2: 1TB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 64MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (Single Hard Drive)
    • KEYBOARD: Xtreme Gear (Black Color) Multimedia/Internet USB Keyboard
    • MOUSE: XtremeGear Optical USB 3 Buttons Gaming Mouse
    • MOTHERBOARD: * (3-Way SLI Support) GigaByte GA-X58A-UD3R Intel X58 Chipset SLI/CrossFireX Ultra Durable™3 Triple-Channel DDR3/1600 ATX Mainboard w/ 7.1 Dolby Audio, eSATA, GbLAN, USB3.0, 2 x SATA-III RAID, IEEE1394a, 4 Gen2 PCIe, 2 PCIe X1 & 1 PCI
    • MEMORY: 6GB (2GBx3) DDR3/1333MHz Triple Channel Memory (Corsair or Major Brand)
    • MULTIVIEW: Non-SLI/Non-CrossFireX Mode Supports Multiple Monitors
    • NETWORK: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
    • OVERCLOCK: No Overclocking
    • OS: Microsoft® Windows® 7 Home Premium (64-bit Edition)
    • POWERSUPPLY: 800 Watts - XtremeGear Gaming Power Supply - Quad SLI Ready
    • SERVICE: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
    • SOFT1: Microsoft® Office® 2010 Home and Student (Word, Excel, PowerPoint + OneNote) 
    • SOUND: ESS 3D WAVETABLE SOUND PCI 
    • SPEAKERS: 120 Watt Stereo Speakers  (Black Color)
    • USB: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
    • VIDEO: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 470 1.2GB 16X PCIe Video Card (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)

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    #2  Edited By ISuperGamerI

    Yeah that's a sick computer but I hope you're not spending $6k cause it sounds like an Alienware or Dell XPS build.

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    #3  Edited By Clembo

    Be honest, you came here to boast, didn't you?
     
    That is a superlative rig.  I assume it's all going to be assembled by you.

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    #4  Edited By Clembo
    @ISuperGamerI said:
    " Yeah that's a sick computer but I hope you're not spending $6k cause it sounds like an Alienware or Dell XPS build. "
    If he got this on Alienware that's going to cost more than a house.  I hope you are building, OP!
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    #5  Edited By Chummy8

    Actually, i have a friend that runs a computer repair shop who is putting it together for me.  I just wanted a second opinion just in case.  And who else can you trust except total strangers over the intermesh?

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    #6  Edited By TomA

    Yes, he doesnt want our opinion, he wants to rub it in our face.
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    #7  Edited By Clembo

    How much are you spending?
     
    Also I hate to someone out to 4chan but if "/g/" like it then it's passed the ultimate test.

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    #8  Edited By ISuperGamerI
    @Clembo said:
    " @ISuperGamerI said:
    " Yeah that's a sick computer but I hope you're not spending $6k cause it sounds like an Alienware or Dell XPS build. "
    If he got this on Alienware that's going to cost more than a house.  I hope you are building, OP! "
    Exactly and if the TC's friend is building it, what's with all the extra specs? Why can't his friend just tell him the stats in plain English?
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    #9  Edited By ajamafalous

    That looks like about $2000 of back-pay.

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    #10  Edited By Chummy8

    Is there anything I don't need, or should replace with something else?  Btw, I was aiming for no more than $2000.  I want a computer that is going to last me a long time. 

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    #11  Edited By Aus_azn

    The fact that I keep reading "___ or major brand" worries me. Looks like a systembuilder's spiel, not so much what a friend would tell... Extra specs? 
     
    Looks like this will be about $2000-2500...

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    #12  Edited By Chummy8

    I got the description from cyberpowerpc.com.  I plan to get the parts separately and have my friend build it.

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    #13  Edited By Clembo

    If your friend for some reason can't build it it's not too difficult to learn.  See that site down below called "Tested"?  Click on that and search "build a $1500 PC".  It's got everything you nned to know from buying the parts that suit you to the assembly itself.  Good luck.

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    #14  Edited By Chummy8

    Cool, thanks. 

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    #15  Edited By EternalDarkWing

    Since you're willing to go all out on this and you already have a good part list set up, I only have a few minor suggestions.  
     
    GEAR1: Logitech Dual Action Gamepad 
    Go ahead and replace this with a wired Xbox 360 controller if you really want a game pad. It's more natively supported and it's probably going to work out better for you.

    KEYBOARD: Xtreme Gear (Black Color) Multimedia/Internet USB Keyboard
    Keyboards aren't as important, in my opinion, as mice for being high quality, but maybe you could switch this out for a cheap name brand keyboard, like Microsoft or something.

    MOUSE: XtremeGear Optical USB 3 Buttons Gaming Mouse
    Since you're going to be doing a lot of gaming, I'd recommend shelling out maybe $20 more or so for a decent name brand gaming mouse. I've been using a Logitech MX518 for years and it's served me really well.
     
     SOFT1: Microsoft® Office® 2010 Home and Student (Word, Excel, PowerPoint + OneNote)
    I don't know you personally so I can't tell if you're Lawful Goodor not, but I personally wouldn't "buy" Microsoft Office. Definitely purchase the operating system though, that's important.
     
     SOUND: ESS 3D WAVETABLE SOUND PCI 
    Your motherboard already supports 8 channels of audio, and today most motherboards have really good audio support anyway. A sound card is not necessary in my opinion.
     
    HDD: 30 GB Kingston 2.5 inch SATA Gaming MLC Solid State Disk (Single Hard Drive)
    HDD2: 1TB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 64MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (Single Hard Drive)
    Stating the obvious here, but make sure you install your OS to the SSD and all of your games and multimedia on the HDD. This will ensure you get the most out of the setup.
     
    And that's basically all the wisdom I have to share. I hope your friend is ready to tweak some BIOS settings. My GigaByte motherboard required some trial and error to get working with my RAM.
     
    Edit: Also I highly endorse getting Corsair RAM, just from personal experience. I ordered G-Skill RAM initially for my computer and one of the sticks came DOA. I RMA'd it and got more DOA RAM that wasn't working at all. I RMA'd it for a refund instead and went with Corsair and have had no problems since.

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    #16  Edited By Chummy8
    @EternalDarkWing said:
    " Since you're willing to go all out on this and you already have a good part list set up, I only have a few minor suggestions.  
     
    GEAR1: Logitech Dual Action Gamepad 
    Go ahead and replace this with a wired Xbox 360 controller if you really want a game pad. It's more natively supported and it's probably going to work out better for you.

    KEYBOARD: Xtreme Gear (Black Color) Multimedia/Internet USB Keyboard
    Keyboards aren't as important, in my opinion, as mice for being high quality, but maybe you could switch this out for a cheap name brand keyboard, like Microsoft or something.

    MOUSE: XtremeGear Optical USB 3 Buttons Gaming Mouse
    Since you're going to be doing a lot of gaming, I'd recommend shelling out maybe $20 more or so for a decent name brand gaming mouse. I've been using a Logitech MX518 for years and it's served me really well.
     
     SOFT1: Microsoft® Office® 2010 Home and Student (Word, Excel, PowerPoint + OneNote)
    I don't know you personally so I can't tell if you're Lawful Goodor not, but I personally wouldn't "buy" Microsoft Office. Definitely purchase the operating system though, that's important.
     
     SOUND: ESS 3D WAVETABLE SOUND PCI 
    Your motherboard already supports 8 channels of audio, and today most motherboards have really good audio support anyway. A sound card is not necessary in my opinion.
     
    HDD: 30 GB Kingston 2.5 inch SATA Gaming MLC Solid State Disk (Single Hard Drive)
    HDD2: 1TB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 64MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (Single Hard Drive)
    Stating the obvious here, but make sure you install your OS to the SSD and all of your games and multimedia on the HDD. This will ensure you get the most out of the setup.
     
    And that's basically all the wisdom I have to share. I hope your friend is ready to tweak some BIOS settings. My GigaByte motherboard required some trial and error to get working with my RAM.
     
    Edit: Also I highly endorse getting Corsair RAM, just from personal experience. I ordered G-Skill RAM initially for my computer and one of the sticks came DOA. I RMA'd it and got more DOA RAM that wasn't working at all. I RMA'd it for a refund instead and went with Corsair and have had no problems since. "
    Fantastic.  Thanks, that helps.  I'll tweak my list with your suggestions. 
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    #17  Edited By Juvarial
    @TekZero: Get a G15 Keyboard and some sort of Razor Mouse that suits you. There. Be happy. 
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    #18  Edited By EternalDarkWing
    @Juvarial said:
    " @TekZero: Get a G15 Keyboard and some sort of Razor Mouse that suits you. There. Be happy.  "
    I used to want a G15, but then I realized that I don't really need a back-lit keyboard that shows me information on a screen that's already on my monitor. It's rather frivolous, to be honest.
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    #19  Edited By Hamst3r
    @TekZero said:
    • CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-960 3.20 GHz 8M Intel Smart Cache LGA1366"
    Make sure that 0.54 GHz is really worth $300 more to you than an i7 920. :)
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    #20  Edited By Binman88

    I would not recommend buying such a small SSD for your boot drive. It is not worth spending the money on an SSD only for the advantage of a fast boot, in my opinion. I'd advise getting a bigger one so you can put a number of applications on there as well (Photoshop, MS Office, Antivirus etc.) without worrying about disk space. Also, the 30GB drive will realistically be something like 27GB. Around 10-15GB will be required for a Win 7 install, not including updates or pagefile (which will be another 4-6GB), and it's recommended you keep about 20% free space on the drive all the time to avoid any slow-downs (so that's another 6GB - though I'd leave more to be on the safe side). That leaves you with very little wiggle-room to put anything else on the drive.

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    #21  Edited By Juvarial
    @EternalDarkWing: For 60$ its a pretty badass keyboard - And shitfaced drunk at 2am it rocks to have backlight/Media controls/Song information on a friendly red back lighted LCD opposed to turning on a painfully bright monitor. I love it.
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    #22  Edited By Aus_azn
    @Binman88: Perhaps it's me being a nooblet, but I have no problems with regular HDDs; other than securely retaining confidential information for eternity, what benefits does a SSD bring? It's terrifically expensive and lacking in capacity. Sure, I understand the benefits of a fast boot, but what is there in that when you could use patience and wait for a normal HDD to load?
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    #23  Edited By Binman88
    @Aus_azn: That's the thing - they're prohibitively expensive at the moment, so they're not really worth it for people who have no problem waiting the extra few seconds for their OS to boot or applications to load. You would most certainly notice a difference if you swapped out a 7200RPM drive for an SSD - load times (as you said) would be faster, folders would open instantaneously as you click through them, files can be accessed much faster - everything is just a lot snappier, but the difference is definitely not worth the cost at the moment.
     
    Personally, I bought an 80GB one a month or so ago because I'm an idiot. I was annoyed that I had to replace my motherboard at the time, so I made myself feel better about it by buying a new SSD as well. Still, it's nice to get to my desktop from powering on in about 15 - 20 seconds, and applications like Photoshop take about 2 or 3 seconds to load.
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    #24  Edited By Eisen

    I wouldn't recommend SSDs at this time.  I recommend the Seagate momentous series.  It's a hybrid drive (both SSD and HDD).  Similar performance, but much higher capacity and less costly. 

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    #25  Edited By Eisen

    Also, why buy a triple SLI motherboard if you are only getting a single card?

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    #26  Edited By Chummy8
    @Eisen said:
    " Also, why buy a triple SLI motherboard if you are only getting a single card? "
    I was thinking in case I felt like upgrading in the future by adding more video cards. 
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    #27  Edited By Azteck
    @Eisen said:
    " Also, why buy a triple SLI motherboard if you are only getting a single card? "
    I'm guessing future-proofing.
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    #28  Edited By Eisen
    @EternalDarkWing: You get the G15 for extra keys on the side, not the LCD or backlight.
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    #29  Edited By Eisen
    @Azteck: There's no such thing as future proof in computing.
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    #30  Edited By Aus_azn

    I always thought future-proofing isn't wise... All of the GPUs that I have in my house right now are AGP, and all of my parts are IDE. Call me old fashioned, but other than my gaming rig (which I forget if it uses these), I have one other computer running SATA connectors. 
     
    Future proofing is just a recipe for fiscal disaster as far as I'm concerned.

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    #31  Edited By Eisen

    You could go with a GTX460s in SLI.  It'll destroy the GTX470 in terms of power for just small amount more.  
     
     I usually don't recommend going all out unless you just have money to burn.  Going midlevel is usually best bang for the buck and in 3 years you can upgrade again and it would still be less expensive than buying a single high end pc today.  A mid range PC 3 years from today will be better than a high end machine from today.  A good midrange PC (sub $1000) can play all current games at max settings without any issues.

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    #32  Edited By Aus_azn

    I have a single GTX260 right now, and that has yet to struggle with anything...

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    #33  Edited By Outrager
    @EternalDarkWing said:
    " @Juvarial said:
    " @TekZero: Get a G15 Keyboard and some sort of Razor Mouse that suits you. There. Be happy.  "
    I used to want a G15, but then I realized that I don't really need a back-lit keyboard that shows me information on a screen that's already on my monitor. It's rather frivolous, to be honest. "
    I bought the G15 not for the LCD or the backlight, but so I can press more than 3 buttons without it sticking or locking up. I would be doing Arenas in World of Warcraft on my old generic Microsoft keyboard and if I tried to move diagonally (W+Q) while trying to press a spell (CTRL+4), the W key would get stuck until I pressed it again. Something like the G15 keyboard has no problems with scenarios like this. But again, WoW was the only game I ever had to press this many buttons at once so if you don't play games like that you can probably get a cheaper one.
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    #34  Edited By Juvarial
    @Outrager: What I was trying to explain was that all of that is a bonus, for an extremely well made keyboard at that price point I do not see why you would go for a cheaper board. 60$ for LED, No lag, Mutipress, Macro, Blahblahblah. Personally best keyboard ever for the price. 
    Also spilled beer all over it-The face and keys are locked so you can clean it WITHOUT having keys flying everywhere-Bad ass as HELL.
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    #35  Edited By Geno
    @Hamst3r said:

    " @TekZero said:

    • CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-960 3.20 GHz 8M Intel Smart Cache LGA1366"
    Make sure that 0.54 GHz is really worth $300 more to you than an i7 920. :) "
    This.  
     
    @TekZero: You can get the same performance with a moderately overclocked i7 920/930, or if you're looking at just games, with a moderately overclocked Core i5-750/760.  
     
    The build looks a little...unbalanced. You've got a top end CPU but relatively speaking, a much weaker GPU to go with it. Your motherboard is also 3-way SLI compatible but it is using only 1 card. Your PSU at 800W is also a little big for what you're using, but then again having a larger PSU doesn't hurt I guess. I also wouldn't recommend buying your peripherals at a system builder, even good ones, as they simply don't specialize in that area. They will either overcharge or have access to only a limited variety. 
     
    That build is no doubt powerful, but fat. There is a lot that could be trimmed off with little to no loss in performance. Are you using this primarily for gaming or will you also be folding etc? 
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    #36  Edited By Chummy8

    Ok, so going with some suggestions from you guys, here is my revised list.  According to the site I'm building it from, it's actually a little cheaper as well.   My goal is to get a decent computer that will be able to run new games without a problem for the next few years with minimum upgrades.  I never had a "gaming" computer, so I want to make this one special.

    Configuration

    • CD: 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive (BLACK COLOR)
    • CS_FAN: Default case fans
    • CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-930 2.80 GHz 8M Intel Smart Cache LGA1366
    • FAN: Asetek 510LC Liquid Cooling System 120MM Radiator & Fan (Enhanced Cooling Performance + Extreme Silent at 20dBA)
    • HDD2: 1.5TB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 32MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (Single Hard Drive)
    • HDD: 80 GB Intel X25-M 2.5 inch SATA Gaming MLC Solid State Disk (Single Hard Drive)
    • KEYBOARD: (Keyboard & Mouse Combo) Logitech Wireless Desktop MK300 Keyboard & Mouse Combo 
    • MOTHERBOARD: * (3-Way SLI Support) GigaByte GA-X58A-UD3R Intel X58 Chipset SLI/CrossFireX Ultra Durable™3 Triple-Channel DDR3/1600 ATX Mainboard w/ 7.1 Dolby Audio, eSATA, GbLAN, USB3.0, 2 x SATA-III RAID, IEEE1394a, 4 Gen2 PCIe, 2 PCIe X1 & 1 PCI
    • MEMORY: 6GB (2GBx3) DDR3/1333MHz Triple Channel Memory (Corsair or Major Brand)
    • MULTIVIEW: Xtreme Performance in SLI/CrossFireX Gaming Mode Supports Single Monitor
    • NETWORK: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
    • OS: Microsoft® Windows® 7 Home Premium (64-bit Edition)
    • POWERSUPPLY: 800 Watts - XtremeGear Gaming Power Supply - Quad SLI Ready
    • SOFT1: Microsoft® Office® 2010 Home and Student (Word, Excel, PowerPoint + OneNote)
    • SERVICE: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
    • SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
    • SPEAKERS: 120 Watt Stereo Speakers (Black Color)
    • USB: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
    • VIDEO: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 1GB 16X PCIe Video Card (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)
    • VIDEO2: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 1GB 16X PCIe Video Card (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)

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