PlayStation 2 Slim The Best Version of a Console Ever Made!?

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#1 Posted by ShinjiEx (793 posts) -

Had it in storage have it back out now and it's still the best looking and well made console I've seen to date yes it's simple looking at first but the little details to it's functionality make one the most reliably consoles ever made
 

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#2 Edited by mandude (2824 posts) -

Strange topic, but yes.

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#3 Posted by PillClinton (3528 posts) -

Ah, the PS2... A time when Sony could justify its hubris...

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#4 Posted by Firepaw (3051 posts) -

Eh, nah... Oh alright then, sure.

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#5 Posted by KarmaPoliceman (157 posts) -

Where's it's handle?

That's what I thought, Gamecube is still number 1.

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#6 Posted by Ocean_H (283 posts) -

PS2 phat, I just hate the power brick that the PS2 slim has.

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#7 Posted by Phatmac (5930 posts) -

The correct answer is the gameboy SP

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#8 Posted by supamon (1339 posts) -

Disagree! I'm a fatty for life! PS1 phat. PS2 phat. PSP phat.

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#9 Posted by Shirogane (3624 posts) -

@supamon said:

Disagree! I'm a fatty for life! PS1 phat. PS2 phat. PSP phat.

The other two sure, but PSP phat? The slim is better in so many ways.

I still have my phat PS2, still working perfectly, i think.

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#10 Posted by JoeyRavn (5215 posts) -

@Phatmac said:

The correct answer is the AGS-101 backlit Gameboy Advance SP.

There we go. Clarified your post for you. But I agree: the GBA SP is the best-designed console of all time.

And the best console of all time, period, if you ask me.

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#11 Posted by supamon (1339 posts) -

@Shirogane said:

@supamon said:

Disagree! I'm a fatty for life! PS1 phat. PS2 phat. PSP phat.

The other two sure, but PSP phat? The slim is better in so many ways.

I still have my phat PS2, still working perfectly, i think.

Well okay sure, the PSP phat had a louser screen, lesser RAM, heavy as a paper weight and weaker battery life but I've had my phat since 2006 and it still works (playing emulated Megaman Legends 1 on it). If nothing else it had durability.

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#12 Posted by Fattony12000 (8262 posts) -
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#13 Posted by WalkerD (497 posts) -

@Fattony12000: I was literally just about to post this. I've wanted one of these for a long time now.

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#14 Posted by ShinjiEx (793 posts) -

GameBoy is not a console...
 

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#15 Edited by psylah (2291 posts) -

I still keep my PS2 slim on my desk at home, because it is so slick and sleek. It has its own dedicated monitor.

And recently, I purchased a PSOne, because it is so damn kawaii (that's japanese for cute, you baka gaijins)

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Look at it! Even the end of the controller cord that goes into the console is rounded!

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#16 Posted by psylah (2291 posts) -

@supamon said:

@Shirogane said:

@supamon said:

Disagree! I'm a fatty for life! PS1 phat. PS2 phat. PSP phat.

The other two sure, but PSP phat? The slim is better in so many ways.

I still have my phat PS2, still working perfectly, i think.

Well okay sure, the PSP phat had a louser screen, lesser RAM, heavy as a paper weight and weaker battery life but I've had my phat since 2006 and it still works (playing emulated Megaman Legends 1 on it). If nothing else it had durability.

I had a launch PSP, and I remember the PSP-2000 having a much worse screen, almost like it had scan lines on it or something.

Maybe those were just the early PSP-2000 units?

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#17 Posted by AuthenticM (4299 posts) -

@Ocean_H said:

PS2 phat, I just hate the power brick that the PS2 slim has.

Latter revisions of the PS2 slim (the one I currently have) had the power supply integrated to the console. Best looking console IMO.

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#18 Posted by psylah (2291 posts) -

@AuthenticM said:

@Ocean_H said:

PS2 phat, I just hate the power brick that the PS2 slim has.

Latter revisions of the PS2 slim (the one I currently have) had the power supply integrated to the console. Best looking console IMO.

You've got to be shitting me, Where did they find the space?!

Wikipedia says it's model number SCPH-90000, I'll have to find one of these...

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#19 Posted by Rafaelfc (2223 posts) -

No, son

the Snes

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#20 Posted by Little_Socrates (5844 posts) -

Best built console ever probably belongs to the PS2 slim or the GBA SP. I'm not gonna choose between 360 and PS3 because their dashboard/XMB is still too messed up to compare to that simplicity.

That said, best console ever made belongs to the SNES, GBA, PS2, or 360, IMO. And we'll have to see how the 360 games hold up (outside of the downloadable market where almost everything good is a retro throwback of some kind.)

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#21 Posted by zyn (2765 posts) -

HELL YES!

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#22 Posted by august (4037 posts) -
Sega Genesis, original North American release
Sega Genesis, original North American release
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#23 Edited by Fredchuckdave (10112 posts) -

@Little_Socrates: The SNES has an argument (albeit a nostalgic fueled weak one), the 360 absolutely unequivocally does not, particularly if you're comparing to the PS2 and its 75-90% market share and 2500 games. How many fully priced 360 games even came out this year? 10?

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#24 Posted by Bourbon_Warrior (4569 posts) -

I think the latest Xbox Model is pretty sweet, but for some reason the original Playstation is just so awesome

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#25 Posted by Little_Socrates (5844 posts) -

@Fredchuckdave said:

@Little_Socrates: The SNES has an argument (albeit a nostalgic fueled weak one), the 360 absolutely unequivocally does not, particularly if you're comparing to the PS2 and its 75-90% market share and 2500 games. How many fully priced 360 games even came out this year? 10?

The media functionality, installation of games, downloadable titles leading to a variable price model, and the best online multiplayer outside the PC do count for something, though. PS2 was a more dominant console and it has more games, but quantity does not overtake quality, and most of the best games for the Xbox 360 are actually best on 360. Last couple years, we've finally shifted towards a PC-primary model again, but so much of the 360 lifespan was spent getting the best versions of games like CoD4, BioShock, and more.

How many fully priced 360 games came out this year? Like, probably 200 or so, I dunno. There weren't 2500 exclusive PS2 titles either. Wikipedia pulls up roughly 500 titles exclusive to PS2.

As for the SNES, it's very much a "if you're only going to buy 5/10/20 games for a console, which one would have the best games?" kind of argument. If you only play the best SNES games ever, you're set. But the drop-off in quality between what's good and what's bad is pretty massive, I agree.

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#26 Posted by jonnyboy (2867 posts) -

Pretty much. PS2 slim came out recently to play THPS 1&2, just had to confirm what I felt about Robomodo and THPS HD. Fantastic machine.

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#27 Posted by Fredchuckdave (10112 posts) -

@Little_Socrates: I'm talking major full retail releases, not XBLIG garbage, not 5-10 hour small dev team/Indy games. So what do you have: Mass Effect 3, Max Payne 3, Borderlands 2, Dishonored, X Com, RE6; there's a few upcoming games and I'm sure I'm missing a handful.

I'm still seeing no significant difference between the PS3 and the 360 (except for minor stuff like free online multiplayer, what a horrible thing that is), all you have are exclusive titles. The argument for the 360 is Bastion, Dust, and Mark of the Ninja; are you going to somehow spin those 3 games into superiority? I don't really think it's possible. There's just little or no difference between the two, market share is identical worldwide. It comes down to taste between the extremely rare exclusive games for either console; but almost everything comes out for both. Neither console is either an impressive display of first party exclusive games nor does either indicate any sort of dominance of the market. The most remarkable thing about this generation other than its extended duration is parity if anything, and the dying out of the console wars because you can play almost anything on anything.

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#28 Posted by vaiz (3064 posts) -
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Genesis 3, Son. Look how tiny that thing is.

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#29 Posted by Snail (8882 posts) -

I remember when new consoles were that light.

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#30 Posted by Little_Socrates (5844 posts) -

@Fredchuckdave: Whoa, hey, why so hostile? I think the 360 dash is a bit stronger than the XMB, and I do prefer the 360 downloadables (there are more than those mentioned.) And the period of time where the 360 games were superior (check those '07/'08 PS3 ports) was pretty notable. It's close between the two, but I think the 360's stronger than the PS3 by just a little bit. Are we going to have to fight now or something?

There are far more full-retail games this year. All those Kinect games, Ghost Recon: Future Soldier, Spec Ops The Line, etc. No, they're not all quality games (though Spec Ops is,) but I wouldn't have said that there were that many strong PS2 games in '00, '05, or '06 either (though the handful of strong '05 PS2 games were fantastic.) You also missed The Darkness II, which is sad, 'cause that game is great.

Anyways, I don't care to carry on this argument anymore. I just want to clarify that there's a difference between the 360 and PS3, and I prefer the 360 by just a bit.

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#31 Posted by dagas (3455 posts) -

The PSTwo is indeed a great console. You can bring it to places and it barely takes any more room than a small book. Also there are still great games for that console that you probably have not played since there are so many great games ofr it, especially JRPG's.

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#32 Posted by MikkaQ (10296 posts) -

I think it's fantastic, other than the fuckin' toploader.

One could definitely argue that's the best revision on a console made. The Wii may have touted that it's the size of three DVD cases, but this was barely the size of one.

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#33 Posted by TobbRobb (6047 posts) -

I've never had a slim version, since my release day fatty Ps2 is still plugged in and regularily used.

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#34 Posted by Hizang (9358 posts) -

@psylah said:

I still keep my PS2 slim on my desk at home, because it is so slick and sleek. It has its own dedicated monitor.

And recently, I purchased a PSOne, because it is so damn kawaii (that's japanese for cute, you baka gaijins)

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Look at it! Even the end of the controller cord that goes into the console is rounded!

Oh the PSOne is amazing, it's really small, looks great and oh yes has a sweet controller.

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#35 Posted by Fattony12000 (8262 posts) -

@WalkerD: I know right!? So sleek but so stupid!

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#36 Edited by Fredchuckdave (10112 posts) -

@Little_Socrates: I'm not hostile I'm just direct, I don't get angry on the internets and while I have some degree of brand loyalty it's not that severe; if the 360 was even a top 5 console I could probably perceive it. I'm such a Sony loyalist that I didn't even buy a PS3 until 2010; because there were barely any good games for either console for 4-5 solid years. That changed but ultimately it's still just a handful of games.

PS2 games that came out at the end of cycle: San Andreas, Metal Gear Solid 3, Resident Evil 4, Final Fantasy XII (extremely solid), Dragon Quest VIII (The only DQ in history not to be boring as fuck), Valkyrie Profile 2, Xenosaga 3, Suikoden V, Rogue Galaxy, obviously I was playing JRPGs at the time (which is probably the best PS2 genre). There were a ton of genre defining games of extremely high production value and overall quality; while 2010-2011 were very solid the exceedingly long leadup and the aftermath are both exceptionally disappointing and dull. There are still dozens of PS2 games I haven't played but could still enjoy immensely (have God Hand just waiting patiently for some attention).

With the PS3 I have to constantly justify mediocre purchases just because prices are so damn low and drop so fast; if I had a 360 it would be much of the same. Now you could say it's not the PS2 or Sony driving success, but simply being the dominant console when there were just a ton of good developers still making solid games. Since the cost of producing a game has gone up so much alongside an inflation of one specific genre there is simply a dearth of creativity industry wide, I appreciate smaller dev team/Indy games as much as the next guy but they still can't possibly provide as much worth as an actual full retail release with 5-20 times as many people working on them.

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#37 Posted by Justin258 (14279 posts) -

@psylah said:

I still keep my PS2 slim on my desk at home, because it is so slick and sleek. It has its own dedicated monitor.

And recently, I purchased a PSOne, because it is so damn kawaii (that's japanese for cute, you baka gaijins)

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Look at it! Even the end of the controller cord that goes into the console is rounded!

This is the correct answer. Even after I had a PS2 that could play PS1 games with no issue, I kept one of these plugged up because it just looks so damn nice. Unfortunately, I handed it down to my brother and he threw it away when it wouldn't play a super-scratched disc. We had a second one, don't know where it went...

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#38 Posted by Turambar (7996 posts) -

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No, son

the Snes

Are you kidding me? The plastic in the SNES would turn color over time. We're not talking about the games.

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#39 Posted by Rafaelfc (2223 posts) -

@Turambar said:

@Rafaelfc said:

No, son

the Snes

Are you kidding me? The plastic in the SNES would turn color over time. We're not talking about the games.

I love the SNES design, it's very compact and cool looking, the big buttons are great.

They do turn yellow with age, but I even think old SNES's look badass.

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#40 Edited by WilltheMagicAsian (1548 posts) -

I still prefer that fat PS2 over the slim. Maybe it's just because my slim stopped reading discs in like two years ( really should get around to replacing the laser) where as my launch PS2 still reads discs fine. Only thing that sucks is that the early fat models don't support progressive scan.

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#41 Posted by Sploder (918 posts) -

PS2 Phat 4 ly43

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#42 Posted by ConfusedOwl (1160 posts) -

Mine is still sitting up on my shelf waiting to be played. I agree it's one of the better looking consoles, and still to this day remains one of the favourites when it comes to the game library.

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#43 Posted by PillClinton (3528 posts) -
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This is still just a badass looking machine.

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#44 Posted by I_Stay_Puft (5567 posts) -

I'd probably have to go with the DS Lite. If anybody remembers the first DS were super super ugly and looked like one of those old translation devices. When the lite came out they were so much sleeker and nicer looking I think that iteration made the DS the popular handheld console it is known for during that time period 6 years ago.

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#45 Edited by handlas (3170 posts) -

mmm ehhh...mmemeeemeeeeeee

PS3 Slim (1st one) is still the best piece of hardware imo. Solidly built but light. Minimalistic. Just purty.

Recently bought a Gamecube and my memory doesn't serve me well because I remember liking the design of it. It's so cheapy feeling especially the controller. The triggers feel super flimsy. I imagine that goes for most older consoles.

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#46 Posted by I_Stay_Puft (5567 posts) -

@handlas: It was probably the handle on the gamecube that made you like the design. Its something no other console has tried to continue going forward.

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#47 Posted by PillClinton (3528 posts) -

@handlas said:

Recently bought a Gamecube and my memory doesn't serve me well because I remember liking the design of it. It's so cheapy feeling especially the controller. The triggers feel super flimsy. I imagine that goes for most older consoles.

But you can gut it and use it as a super cool lunchbox! They knew full well what they were doing with that exquisitely necessary handle.

Agreed about the controller, though. The C-stick especially feels like a massive misstep. It's like some weird cross between a proper analog stick and a pseudo d-pad, like two halves of the design team couldn't agree so they just yielded to some half-assed middle ground.

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#48 Posted by wadtomaton (581 posts) -

I really liked the original PS2

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#49 Posted by ajamafalous (13361 posts) -
@KarmaPoliceman said:

Where's it's handle?

That's what I thought, Gamecube is still number 1.

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#50 Posted by JazGalaxy (1638 posts) -

@PillClinton said:

Ah, the PS2... A time when Sony could justify its hubris...

Oh lord no. PS1? Sure. But the PS2 was a terrible console for many, many reasons.

The bottom line being that Sony's mantra has always been "more". They take what worked and just add more on top of it. That being the case, the PS2 was just the PS1, with literally the same controllers and whatnot, but with "more power". Meanwhile The Xbox and Gamecube were off adding value to the players overall experiences.

I still remember the first day I got my PS2 and was pretty much like... it's black. It didn't help that the first game I played was Tekken Tag Tournament, which was basically the exact same Game as Tekken 3, but smoother.

Contrast that with the Xbox which had my friends and i hooking up 4 controllers and playing 4 player games and listening to custom soundtracks via the hard drive...

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