" ITT: People think Anonymous are the ones who hacked PSN, when they aren't. "
They admitted to hacking PSN in retaliation of the GeoHot shit. They may never have claimed responsibility for this latest hack, but their hands are anything but clean in all of this. "
Yes their hands are clean of this. It doesn't matter what some guy claiming to be anonymous says, all they do is DDOS attacks. Not straight hacking of servers and stealing of personal information.
"
The thing about anonymous is that all their members are anonymous. There is no definitive proof that some of the people in anon are or are not the actual PSN hackers so claiming "they" didn't do it without any evidence other than what some random anonymous guys said is silly. Likewise, saying that every "member" of anonymous was in on the hack is equally as silly. This article just proves that they are a completely disorganised bunch that mostly has no idea what everyone else is actually doing.
" ITT: People think Anonymous are the ones who hacked PSN, when they aren't. "
They admitted to hacking PSN in retaliation of the GeoHot shit. They may never have claimed responsibility for this latest hack, but their hands are anything but clean in all of this. "
Yes their hands are clean of this. It doesn't matter what some guy claiming to be anonymous says, all they do is DDOS attacks. Not straight hacking of servers and stealing of personal information.
"
"While it could be the case that other Anons have acted by themselves, AnonOps was not related to this incident and does not take responsibility for whatever has happened,"
Your proof of them doing it is Anonymous stating they didn't do it, but they aren't responsible for others..? "
Read the article? Some Anonymous hackers are suspected to have used the DDOS attacks to further exploit Sony outside of the Anonymous"leadership" "
it says that Anonymous DDOSing the servers helped the real hacker get easier access... how in the world does that mean anonymous did it...The hacker seen an opportunity to get in, and took it.
" ITT: People think Anonymous are the ones who hacked PSN, when they aren't. "
They admitted to hacking PSN in retaliation of the GeoHot shit. They may never have claimed responsibility for this latest hack, but their hands are anything but clean in all of this. "
Yes their hands are clean of this. It doesn't matter what some guy claiming to be anonymous says, all they do is DDOS attacks. Not straight hacking of servers and stealing of personal information.
"
"While it could be the case that other Anons have acted by themselves, AnonOps was not related to this incident and does not take responsibility for whatever has happened,"
Your proof of them doing it is Anonymous stating they didn't do it, but they aren't responsible for others..? "
Read the article? Some Anonymous hackers are suspected to have used the DDOS attacks to further exploit Sony outside of the Anonymous"leadership" "
it says that Anonymous DDOSing the servers helped the real hacker get easier access... how in the world does that mean anonymous did it...The hacker seen an opportunity to get in, and took it. "
" ITT: People think Anonymous are the ones who hacked PSN, when they aren't. "
They admitted to hacking PSN in retaliation of the GeoHot shit. They may never have claimed responsibility for this latest hack, but their hands are anything but clean in all of this. "
Yes their hands are clean of this. It doesn't matter what some guy claiming to be anonymous says, all they do is DDOS attacks. Not straight hacking of servers and stealing of personal information.
"
"While it could be the case that other Anons have acted by themselves, AnonOps was not related to this incident and does not take responsibility for whatever has happened,"
Your proof of them doing it is Anonymous stating they didn't do it, but they aren't responsible for others..? "
Read the article? Some Anonymous hackers are suspected to have used the DDOS attacks to further exploit Sony outside of the Anonymous"leadership" "
it says that Anonymous DDOSing the servers helped the real hacker get easier access... how in the world does that mean anonymous did it...The hacker seen an opportunity to get in, and took it. "
And you're saying that there's no way that this hacker never associated himself with Anonymous, which you can't prove.
" ITT: People think Anonymous are the ones who hacked PSN, when they aren't. "
They admitted to hacking PSN in retaliation of the GeoHot shit. They may never have claimed responsibility for this latest hack, but their hands are anything but clean in all of this. "
Yes their hands are clean of this. It doesn't matter what some guy claiming to be anonymous says, all they do is DDOS attacks. Not straight hacking of servers and stealing of personal information.
"
"While it could be the case that other Anons have acted by themselves, AnonOps was not related to this incident and does not take responsibility for whatever has happened,"
Your proof of them doing it is Anonymous stating they didn't do it, but they aren't responsible for others..? "
Read the article? Some Anonymous hackers are suspected to have used the DDOS attacks to further exploit Sony outside of the Anonymous"leadership" "
it says that Anonymous DDOSing the servers helped the real hacker get easier access... how in the world does that mean anonymous did it...The hacker seen an opportunity to get in, and took it. "
And you're saying that there's no way that this hacker never associated himself with Anonymous, which you can't prove. "
I'm also not going to be stupid and blame it on anonymous like you are all doing. Because it's silly to say every hacker is automatically part of anonymous.
" ITT: People think Anonymous are the ones who hacked PSN, when they aren't. "
They admitted to hacking PSN in retaliation of the GeoHot shit. They may never have claimed responsibility for this latest hack, but their hands are anything but clean in all of this. "
Yes their hands are clean of this. It doesn't matter what some guy claiming to be anonymous says, all they do is DDOS attacks. Not straight hacking of servers and stealing of personal information.
"
"While it could be the case that other Anons have acted by themselves, AnonOps was not related to this incident and does not take responsibility for whatever has happened,"
Your proof of them doing it is Anonymous stating they didn't do it, but they aren't responsible for others..? "
Read the article? Some Anonymous hackers are suspected to have used the DDOS attacks to further exploit Sony outside of the Anonymous"leadership" "
it says that Anonymous DDOSing the servers helped the real hacker get easier access... how in the world does that mean anonymous did it...The hacker seen an opportunity to get in, and took it. "
And you're saying that there's no way that this hacker never associated himself with Anonymous, which you can't prove. "
I'm also not going to be stupid and blame it on anonymous like you are all doing. Because it's silly to say every hacker is automatically part of anonymous. "
No, instead you're going to be stupid and state that anonymous is completely innocent and had nothing to do with PSN being hacked.
" ITT: People think Anonymous are the ones who hacked PSN, when they aren't. "
They admitted to hacking PSN in retaliation of the GeoHot shit. They may never have claimed responsibility for this latest hack, but their hands are anything but clean in all of this. "
Yes their hands are clean of this. It doesn't matter what some guy claiming to be anonymous says, all they do is DDOS attacks. Not straight hacking of servers and stealing of personal information.
"
"While it could be the case that other Anons have acted by themselves, AnonOps was not related to this incident and does not take responsibility for whatever has happened,"
Your proof of them doing it is Anonymous stating they didn't do it, but they aren't responsible for others..? "
Read the article? Some Anonymous hackers are suspected to have used the DDOS attacks to further exploit Sony outside of the Anonymous"leadership" "
it says that Anonymous DDOSing the servers helped the real hacker get easier access... how in the world does that mean anonymous did it...The hacker seen an opportunity to get in, and took it. "
And you're saying that there's no way that this hacker never associated himself with Anonymous, which you can't prove. "
I'm also not going to be stupid and blame it on anonymous like you are all doing. Because it's silly to say every hacker is automatically part of anonymous. "
No, instead you're going to be stupid and state that anonymous is completely innocent and had nothing to do with PSN being hacked. "
I'm stating the fact that theres no proof that links anonymous to it, and all of you are still blaming anonymous simply because something was hacked.
" ITT: People think Anonymous are the ones who hacked PSN, when they aren't. "
They admitted to hacking PSN in retaliation of the GeoHot shit. They may never have claimed responsibility for this latest hack, but their hands are anything but clean in all of this. "
Yes their hands are clean of this. It doesn't matter what some guy claiming to be anonymous says, all they do is DDOS attacks. Not straight hacking of servers and stealing of personal information.
"
"While it could be the case that other Anons have acted by themselves, AnonOps was not related to this incident and does not take responsibility for whatever has happened,"
Your proof of them doing it is Anonymous stating they didn't do it, but they aren't responsible for others..? "
Read the article? Some Anonymous hackers are suspected to have used the DDOS attacks to further exploit Sony outside of the Anonymous"leadership" "
it says that Anonymous DDOSing the servers helped the real hacker get easier access... how in the world does that mean anonymous did it...The hacker seen an opportunity to get in, and took it. "
And you're saying that there's no way that this hacker never associated himself with Anonymous, which you can't prove. "
" ITT: People think Anonymous are the ones who hacked PSN, when they aren't. "
They admitted to hacking PSN in retaliation of the GeoHot shit. They may never have claimed responsibility for this latest hack, but their hands are anything but clean in all of this. "
Yes their hands are clean of this. It doesn't matter what some guy claiming to be anonymous says, all they do is DDOS attacks. Not straight hacking of servers and stealing of personal information.
"
"While it could be the case that other Anons have acted by themselves, AnonOps was not related to this incident and does not take responsibility for whatever has happened,"
Your proof of them doing it is Anonymous stating they didn't do it, but they aren't responsible for others..? "
Read the article? Some Anonymous hackers are suspected to have used the DDOS attacks to further exploit Sony outside of the Anonymous"leadership" "
it says that Anonymous DDOSing the servers helped the real hacker get easier access... how in the world does that mean anonymous did it...The hacker seen an opportunity to get in, and took it. "
And you're saying that there's no way that this hacker never associated himself with Anonymous, which you can't prove. "
I'm also not going to be stupid and blame it on anonymous like you are all doing. Because it's silly to say every hacker is automatically part of anonymous. "
No, instead you're going to be stupid and state that anonymous is completely innocent and had nothing to do with PSN being hacked. "
I'm stating the fact that theres no proof that links anonymous to it, and all of you are still blaming anonymous simply because something was hacked. "
All I'm saying is that saying "their hands are clean of this" is completely laughable considering what they've already stated to have done (and planned). Think about what you're typing for a second
" ITT: People think Anonymous are the ones who hacked PSN, when they aren't. "
They admitted to hacking PSN in retaliation of the GeoHot shit. They may never have claimed responsibility for this latest hack, but their hands are anything but clean in all of this. "
Yes their hands are clean of this. It doesn't matter what some guy claiming to be anonymous says, all they do is DDOS attacks. Not straight hacking of servers and stealing of personal information.
"
"While it could be the case that other Anons have acted by themselves, AnonOps was not related to this incident and does not take responsibility for whatever has happened,"
Your proof of them doing it is Anonymous stating they didn't do it, but they aren't responsible for others..? "
Read the article? Some Anonymous hackers are suspected to have used the DDOS attacks to further exploit Sony outside of the Anonymous"leadership" "
it says that Anonymous DDOSing the servers helped the real hacker get easier access... how in the world does that mean anonymous did it...The hacker seen an opportunity to get in, and took it. "
And you're saying that there's no way that this hacker never associated himself with Anonymous, which you can't prove. "
I'm also not going to be stupid and blame it on anonymous like you are all doing. Because it's silly to say every hacker is automatically part of anonymous. "
No, instead you're going to be stupid and state that anonymous is completely innocent and had nothing to do with PSN being hacked. "
I'm stating the fact that theres no proof that links anonymous to it, and all of you are still blaming anonymous simply because something was hacked. "
All I'm saying is that saying "their hands are clean of this" is completely laughable considering what they've already stated to have done (and planned). Think about what you're typing for a second "
Think what I'm typing? I am. I'm typing that anonymous has done literally nothing to prove to me that they are responsible. They only ever DDOS things. They DDOSed PSN, that's the only thing that we have to any relation to anonymous with PSN, other than that all we have is a bunch of nonsense of people wanting attention. They aren't planning anything other than a DDOS, because that's all they do. Their hands are clean of this until proven otherwise, I don't automatically jump on the ANONYMOUS DID IT!! bandwagon whenever something gets hacked. I'm not saying anonymous never did it, I'm saying theres no proof that they did, and it's silly to say they did just because something got hacked.
@CL60: Except you're not thinking. If you gave it even a moment's thought, you'd consider the possibility that someone with more hacking skill than in performing simple DDoS attacks and who considers himself a member of Anonymous was responsible for the PSN intrusion.
But no, you're plugging your ears and shouting "ANONYMOUS DIDN'T DO IT, FUCKWITS ARGLEBARGLE."
" @CL60: Except you're not thinking. If you gave it even a moment's thought, you'd consider the possibility that someone with more hacking skill than in performing simple DDoS attacks and who considers himself a member of Anonymous was responsible for the PSN intrusion.But no, you're plugging your ears and shouting "ANONYMOUS DIDN'T DO IT, FUCKWITS ARGLEBARGLE." "
@CL60 said:
Think what I'm typing? I am. I'm typing that anonymous has done literally nothing to prove to me that they are responsible. They only ever DDOS things. They DDOSed PSN, that's the only thing that we have to any relation to anonymous with PSN, other than that all we have is a bunch of nonsense of people wanting attention. They aren't planning anything other than a DDOS, because that's all they do. Their hands are clean of this until proven otherwise, I don't automatically jump on the ANONYMOUS DID IT!! bandwagon whenever something gets hacked. I'm not saying anonymous never did it, I'm saying theres no proof that they did, and it's silly to say they did just because something got hacked. "
"Their hands are clean of this" Sounds like you're saying anonymous never did it. For the record, I'm also on the "wait and see" boat as far as the credit card info being stolen goes but saying they had absolutely nothing to do with PSN being in its current state is ridiculous considering what we ALREADY KNOW. I can't believe why you're even arguing that (and continue to do so)
Time for Anonymous to make a big grand public statement about how they'll find the guy responsible and bring them to to justice FOR THE PEOPLE HUZZAH and then finish it by spouting we-never-forget-we-never-forgive-cliche-cliche-cliche-blaaaaaaaaah bullcrap.
"Their hands are clean of this" Sounds like you're saying anonymous never did it. For the record, I'm also on the "wait and see" boat as far as the credit card info being stolen goes but saying they had absolutely nothing to do with PSN being in its current situation is ridiculous. I can't believe why you're even arguing that (and continue to do so) "
I'm arguing because it's stupid to automatically assume that anonymous did it because it's a hack, and yes their hands are clean of this until proven otherwise. They have nothing to do with PSN until factual evidence comes out stating they did, which currently doesn't exist. The only "evidence" is that they DDOSed Sony, and made the real hacker able to get in easier. Which doesn't prove that anonymous did it at all. It just proves that they did what they always do, DDOS something.
" The intrduers had planted a file on one of the servers named 'Anonymous' with the words 'We are Legion. "
Isn't that proof enough? As @Hailinel said:
" By the very nature of Anonymous, if you claim to be a member of Anonymous and do something in the name of Anonymous, then Anonymous did it. "
Case solved. Anonymous did it. "
But dude, don't you get it? Sony would so obviously lie about this to give them leverage against Anonymous! They are a corporation! Therefore they are evil and conspiring against us!
Oh, wait, you mean you'd actually have to be extremely paranoid to believe that? Oh...
" They have nothing to do with PSN until factual evidence comes out stating they did, which currently doesn't exist.
@CL60 said:
" The only "evidence" is that they DDOSed Sony, and made the real hacker able to get in easier. "
I fucking quit "
Honestly, arguing with CL60 is like arguing with a broken record playing on top of a brick wall. "
I could say the same for both of you. Just because you don't agree with me means absolutely nothing. I have my stance on the subject and you have yours, just because you disagree doesn't mean shit all.
" They have nothing to do with PSN until factual evidence comes out stating they did, which currently doesn't exist.
@CL60 said:
" The only "evidence" is that they DDOSed Sony, and made the real hacker able to get in easier. "
I fucking quit "
Honestly, arguing with CL60 is like arguing with a broken record playing on top of a brick wall. "
I could say the same for both of you. Just because you don't agree with me means absolutely nothing. I have my stance on the subject and you have yours, just because you disagree doesn't mean shit all. "
You're using nothing that I would consider logic or reason. Your hopping-mad about bandwagon-riding Anonymous accusers, but you yourself jumped on the bandwagon hitched to the horse going in the complete opposite direction.
" They have nothing to do with PSN until factual evidence comes out stating they did, which currently doesn't exist.
@CL60 said:
" The only "evidence" is that they DDOSed Sony, and made the real hacker able to get in easier. "
I fucking quit "
Honestly, arguing with CL60 is like arguing with a broken record playing on top of a brick wall. "
I could say the same for both of you. Just because you don't agree with me means absolutely nothing. I have my stance on the subject and you have yours, just because you disagree doesn't mean shit all. "
Stop being so goddamn ignorant. Both parties agree more than you think. Hailinel and Luce aren't saying Anonymous did it, what they are saying is they aren't entirely innocent, which is a fact, just because they did not hack, doesn't mean they had no part in the whole thing. You are saying that they didn't hack, as are Hailinel and Luce. SIMPLE.
Are you happy Anonymous? Are you happy!? Look what you've done! You've ripped apart our peaceful community and turned brother on brother! When will this end!?
Good to know that they are having some in fighting.
Anonymous's backtracking and putting up smoke screen after smoke screen since this PSN attack went bad has been super interesting to watch.
Never expected the group or at least the ones who release those "official" press releases and stupid youtube videos to try so hard to defend Anons image and justify there motives.
Can't anybody join Anonymous? So I could say I'm Anonymous, go kick an old lady down some stairs, throw a piece of paper on the ground beside her talking about Legion, and people would go crazy because Anonymous kicks old ladies down flights of stairs.
Actually, I think that's process for how most articles get started that show up on N4G.
" @Krakn3Dfx: You have to get a V For Vendetta Guy Fawkes mask before you can claim to be Anonymous. Once they see that you've gone that far, you're in. "
I have one that I wore for Halloween 3 years ago. Obviously I can never wear it again or I'll just end up on the no-fly list.
Oh wow this whole argument over the last couple pages was really stupid. Anonymous is an organisation, an organisation without defined hierarchy but an organisation nonetheless. Anons come to agreements over what attacks happen and when through concensus and respected agreement across their many IRC channels. If a lone hacker group, even one that associates with Anon, did something, it is not the fault of Anonymous, it is the fault of that hacker group.
Also just a reminder for anyone skimming this page; Anonymous did not hack PSN, the mode of disruption was completely different from what they usually do and pretty much every Anon-Representative site or blog has said that the group isn't responsible. Anon is not ashamed of telling people when they make large drastic actions, why would they suddenly all come to the agreement to keep THIS under wraps, especially when Anonymous is an activist group; they do things with purpose, not just to fuck with people.
" ITT: People think Anonymous are the ones who hacked PSN, when they aren't. "
They admitted to hacking PSN in retaliation of the GeoHot shit. They may never have claimed responsibility for this latest hack, but their hands are anything but clean in all of this. "
Yes their hands are clean of this. It doesn't matter what some guy claiming to be anonymous says, all they do is DDOS attacks. Not straight hacking of servers and stealing of personal information.
"
"While it could be the case that other Anons have acted by themselves, AnonOps was not related to this incident and does not take responsibility for whatever has happened,"
Your proof of them doing it is Anonymous stating they didn't do it, but they aren't responsible for others..? "
Read the article? Some Anonymous hackers are suspected to have used the DDOS attacks to further exploit Sony outside of the Anonymous"leadership" "
it says that Anonymous DDOSing the servers helped the real hacker get easier access... how in the world does that mean anonymous did it...The hacker seen an opportunity to get in, and took it. "
And you're saying that there's no way that this hacker never associated himself with Anonymous, which you can't prove. "
I'm also not going to be stupid and blame it on anonymous like you are all doing. Because it's silly to say every hacker is automatically part of anonymous. "
No, instead you're going to be stupid and state that anonymous is completely innocent and had nothing to do with PSN being hacked. "
I'm stating the fact that theres no proof that links anonymous to it, and all of you are still blaming anonymous simply because something was hacked. "
the only thing i blamed anonymous for was the psn (DDOS?) attack last month (i think) in retaliation of the [how they referred] 'mistreatment' of GeoHotz, which they admitted to via youtube.
i never claimed that this latest hack and 'possible' data theft of 77 million registered psn users was conducted by anonymous. i'm not saying it couldn't have been, and i'm not ruling out that someone as part of anonymous or some other 'hactivist' group did it.
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