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    The PlayStation 3 (often abbreviated PS3) is the third home video game console created and released by Sony Computer Entertainment Inc.

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    #1  Edited By Griddler

    So I have a Samsung 1080p 2333HD and I thought that when I was playing my games that said it runs in 720p, 1080i and 1080p (Prince of Persia, Bioshock etc.) that my TV would be running in 1080p mode... But I've realised that the box in the top left corner that pops up when the game starts has been saying '1280x720' not the '1920x1080' that I assumed it would be running at.
     
    All the display settings are at what they should be, has anyone else had this problem? Anyone know how to fix it?

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    #2  Edited By eroticfishcake

    Or is it your T.V. settings or is your PS3 configured to use those resolutions?

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    #3  Edited By Evilsbane

    Yea check your PS3's default output I have heard of this happening before.

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    #4  Edited By MeierTheRed

    When you have checkmarks in the 720p and 1080p boxes, the PS3 and TV automatically uses the games default resolution. So that would be 720p for pretty much every game.

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    #5  Edited By Griddler
    @pornstorestiffi said:

    " When you have checkmarks in the 720p and 1080p boxes, the PS3 and TV automatically uses the games default resolution. So that would be 720p for pretty much every game. "

    Oh, so will I have to automatically change that every time I play a 1080p game?
     
    EDIT: Manually not automatically
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    #6  Edited By MeierTheRed
    @girdz said:
    " @pornstorestiffi said:
    " When you have checkmarks in the 720p and 1080p boxes, the PS3 and TV automatically uses the games default resolution. So that would be 720p for pretty much every game. "
    Oh, so will I have to automatically change that every time I play a 1080p game? "
    I think if you go uncheck the 720p box and only leave the 1080p one, it should upscale the game. I always let my PS3 select game default resolution for my games, i have a Samsung 46 inch, and the games looks sweet in their native 720p resolution, so i never thought of it as an issue. But let me know how it turns out.
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    #7  Edited By Griddler
    @pornstorestiffi:  If you uncheck the 720p box it will just default back to 540p on games that don't support 1080p. I'm now running Prince of Persia at 1080p. It looks amazing, but then again it already did :P
    There's not a huge difference really.
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    #8  Edited By theWarren

    So then you kept the 720 and 1080p boxes checked?  I'm just curious because my PS3 arrives tomorrow and i want to get configured to use the best resolution it can.

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    #9  Edited By eroticfishcake
    @theWarren: There's an automatic option where the PS3 finds the best resolution for the T.V. But yeah, leaving the 720 and 1080p boxes checked works just as well.
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    #10  Edited By MeierTheRed
    @girdz said:
    " @pornstorestiffi:  If you uncheck the 720p box it will just default back to 540p on games that don't support 1080p. I'm now running Prince of Persia at 1080p. It looks amazing, but then again it already did :P There's not a huge difference really. "
    Oh yes i forgot that 540p mode, i never use that so i dismissed it. But yeah it just upscales it, doesn't add anything. And as you said it looks nice both ways, you won't spot any different from native 720p to a 720p signal upscaled.  
     
    But nice you got it working as you wanted.
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    #11  Edited By Griddler
    @pornstorestiffi said:
    " @girdz said:
    " @pornstorestiffi:  If you uncheck the 720p box it will just default back to 540p on games that don't support 1080p. I'm now running Prince of Persia at 1080p. It looks amazing, but then again it already did :P There's not a huge difference really. "
    Oh yes i forgot that 540p mode, i never use that so i dismissed it. But yeah it just upscales it, doesn't add anything. And as you said it looks nice both ways, you won't spot any different from native 720p to a 720p signal upscaled.   But nice you got it working as you wanted. "
    Can you uncheck the 540p box? For me it's always checked. I can't turn it off. If I could do that then I would just leave 1080p on and let it upscale.
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    #12  Edited By Hamz

    If a games are by default intended to run at 720p then does forcing them to run at 1080 cause any negative effects? Is the visual improvement a positive and drastic change or what?
     
    I'm curious as I bought a PS3 some weeks ago alongside a 42" Plasma and it defaults to 720p for games. So any input on this would be helpful :)

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    #13  Edited By TheHBK

     @girdz:   
    @theWarren:
    No, there is nothing wrong.  Games that run at 720p, will make the PS3 switch the TVs resolution to 720p.  Thats why you see the screen flash and the box appear.  When you quit back to the XMB, the screen will again have the box say 1080p on it.  For games that are 1080p, the screen will stay the same and you can check using the INFO button on your samsung remote.  
     
    If you have 1080p checked on the resolution part of the options in the XMB, it will still do this swtich.
     
    WHY?  It is because unlike the 360, the PS3 does not include an upscaler, so games will only run at their native resolutions.  Check your game boxes and it will tell you the native resolution.  The 360 boxes dont help because they just list the resolutions the Xbox supports, not the game.

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    #14  Edited By eroticfishcake
    @Hamz: I've just tried playing Uncharted under 1080p only, the game looks blurry in some parts, there's some jagged edges here and there and the framerate is pretty awful. I'm using 720p now and it looks and runs fine, as it should be. Previously I had all the resolutions checked so I guess the game just selected the most appropiate resolution to use.
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    #15  Edited By Hamz
    @eroticfishcake: Ahh right that explains what I was curious about. Didn't know if by stretching a game to play on a larger resolution than it defaults too it would do much to improve over it drastically or not :) 
     
    Thanks for the info!
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    #16  Edited By Griddler
    @TheHBK: PS3 doesn't have an upscaler? There is an option in game settings where you can turn PS Upscaler on.
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    #17  Edited By TheHBK
    @girdz said:
    " @TheHBK: PS3 doesn't have an upscaler? There is an option in game settings where you can turn PS Upscaler on. "
    No, that only works for movies, DVD's specifically.  The Xbox has a hardware upscaler, the PS3 one is software for DVDs.  Otherwise I would not be so annoyed everytime my TV flashed because it changed the resolution.
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    #18  Edited By Griddler
    @TheHBK said:
    " @girdz said:
    " @TheHBK: PS3 doesn't have an upscaler? There is an option in game settings where you can turn PS Upscaler on. "
    No, that only works for movies, DVD's specifically.  The Xbox has a hardware upscaler, the PS3 one is software for DVDs.  Otherwise I would not be so annoyed everytime my TV flashed because it changed the resolution. "
    Why is it in game settings?
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    #19  Edited By wealllikepie

    by the way, just out of curiosity, how much does it cost to get a 1080p cable for the ps3 and is it really worth it. im considering it now, but i dont know if it will be a waste of money or not

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    #20  Edited By MeierTheRed
    @Hamz said:

    " If a games are by default intended to run at 720p then does forcing them to run at 1080 cause any negative effects? Is the visual improvement a positive and drastic change or what?  I'm curious as I bought a PS3 some weeks ago alongside a 42" Plasma and it defaults to 720p for games. So any input on this would be helpful :) "

    Yeah seems like it does cause some weird effects. I just tried it on Uncharted 2, and it looks weird. Says the picture is running at 1920x1080 at a 60Hhz. But it looks kind of jaggy, the cinematic where the worst they looked awful. 
     
    So i actually don't know what the hell is going on. 
     
    Cause i seems a little weird if the TV displays 1080p but actually runs a 520p signal. Makes no sense. 
     
    EDIT: Did some digging on the web, and seems that if you uncheck 720p and 1080i from the boxes, some game do infact upscale the 720p native resolution up to a 1080p signal, while others just reverts to 480p/520p. 
     
    Ok example here, Bioshock will output 1080p signal, Uncharted 2 or Motorstorm 2 won't, they will revert to 480p instead of going to 1080p. Pretty fucked.
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    #21  Edited By Griddler
    @wealllikepie: They're cheap. Just don't be fooled into buying an expensive big name brand HDMI cable. They all do the same job.
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    #22  Edited By Hamz
    @pornstorestiffi: Well I think Uncharted 2 looks absolutely brilliant at 720 I was just curious if 1080 made any major or drastic improvement too it. But it seems like it probably doesn't or won't run naturally at that resolution. Just curious to know though :)
     
    Thanks for the info!
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    #23  Edited By eroticfishcake
    @wealllikepie: Well I got mine for free but it would normall cost around €25 or so, though recently I've seen it float between €20-25 (I'm not sure how much that is in $). If you've got the a big T.V. and the money I'd say go for it. Otherwise, you're not missing a whole lot if I'm honest. If you've got a friend or know someone who's got a HDMI cable, borrow it off them and see for yourself.
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    #24  Edited By MeierTheRed
    @Hamz said:
    " @pornstorestiffi: Well I think Uncharted 2 looks absolutely brilliant at 720 I was just curious if 1080 made any major or drastic improvement too it. But it seems like it probably doesn't or won't run naturally at that resolution. Just curious to know though :)  Thanks for the info! "
    No problem man, was curious my self, so had to try it out.
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    #25  Edited By BoFooQ

    what cables are you using to hook up ps3? 
     
    if you only have s-vid cables you wont get full quailty
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    #26  Edited By newmarcom
    @girdz said:
    " @TheHBK said:
    " @girdz said:
    " @TheHBK: PS3 doesn't have an upscaler? There is an option in game settings where you can turn PS Upscaler on. "
    No, that only works for movies, DVD's specifically.  The Xbox has a hardware upscaler, the PS3 one is software for DVDs.  Otherwise I would not be so annoyed everytime my TV flashed because it changed the resolution. "
    Why is it in game settings? "
    I think the option you're looking at is the the PSone game upscaler. It tries to make the old games look a little nicer on larger screens.
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    #27  Edited By Vonocourt
    @TheHBK said:
    "  @girdz:   
    @theWarren:
    No, there is nothing wrong.  Games that run at 720p, will make the PS3 switch the TVs resolution to 720p.  Thats why you see the screen flash and the box appear.  When you quit back to the XMB, the screen will again have the box say 1080p on it.  For games that are 1080p, the screen will stay the same and you can check using the INFO button on your samsung remote.  
     
    If you have 1080p checked on the resolution part of the options in the XMB, it will still do this swtich.
     
    WHY?  It is because unlike the 360, the PS3 does not include an upscaler, so games will only run at their native resolutions.  Check your game boxes and it will tell you the native resolution.  The 360 boxes dont help because they just list the resolutions the Xbox supports, not the game. "
    You're TV doesn't actually change resolutions. If it's a 1080p tv, it will always display a 1080p image. What the little box in the corner actually means is the resolution of the signal it's receiving. If the signal isn't the same resolution it will process the image accordingly to display it, I.E. upscale 720p to 1080p, deinterlace 1080i to 1080p.
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    #28  Edited By Griddler
    @newmarcom: Ah that would make sense.

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