AmericanPegasus

"Sorry. :S

But it's just true though, there is no denying that the HDDs are way overpriced, call me biased but thats a fact and im pointing out that a machine for 200 bucks with no HDD is kinda laughable IMO, since it means people will eventually buy an HDD down the line, paying more for it. See what I mean?
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Sentry..in your post you defiantly seem to be biased against the 360 so I won't get in an argument with you.

"MB said:

"$199 for an Arcade would be pretty sweet.  Even though most people will need a hard drive, that enables you to play hundreds of great 360 games and get online with a memory card immediately for $50 less than the price of a WIi and at half the price of the cheapest PS3.  (Is the PS3 still $399?)
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So basically the 360 is; $300 and $400, where the PS3 is still $400 and $500.

I wouldn't count the Arcade SKU, I mean, what kind of real gamer would get that? Lmao, then pay a few hundred bucks for an HDD. Not worth it if they use logic. So the PS3 is still a hundred bucks more, but then again it has built in wifi and whatnot, , so overall its still cheaper in my eyes.

This is still a sweet price cut though, just don't see it changing too much.
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"$199 for an Arcade would be pretty sweet.  Even though most people will need a hard drive, that enables you to play hundreds of great 360 games and get online with a memory card immediately for $50 less than the price of a WIi and at half the price of the cheapest PS3.  (Is the PS3 still $399?)
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http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2008/08/02/major-xbox-360-price-cuts-rumored-for-september/

Which nowadays a rumor is practically confirmation as far as price drops go...

For anyone to lazy to read the article the rumor drop are:

Arcade :279 to 199 USD

Pro 60GB : 349 to 299 USD

Elite 449: to 399 USD

"Since its not even started on the 360 yet, of course its going to be a 360 exclusive....

It's funny, they don't even know HOW they will make it on 360 yet. MS just shoved a bunch of cash at them, and said do it.
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"Doesn't that, in essence, prove the futility of placing faith in something that can not be proven?
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I always find religious debates pointless..since you can't prove anything either way. There's no endgame.

We'll probably never be able to erase crap like that.

People actually believe in Adam and Eve...?I thought evolution was practically accepted by the church.