Is the PC becoming the new Amiga?

Back in The Day - the 80's, yo - when polygons were pixels and games were something that only the nerds did, there was a games store near my house called the Hard Disk Café (I know, right?). The guys that ran it were a couple of bemulleted Amiga fans - and so most of the stock was Amiga games, with a fair amount of Atari ST and a small, video-store-porn-section-sized-(or-so-I-hear-never-seen-one-myself) PC section.
 
I remember walking past all the shiny Psygnosis posters to get to my corner of shame where, for all of 5 minutes - it didn't take long, I checked out the PC stuff. From time to time I'd get talking with the owners. Once, I suggested that PC support was improving every year and maybe, just MAYBE, the PC could be a dominant gaming platform some day.
 
They laughed in their snide, bemulletted way. 
 
Well, where are they now? I'll tell you where. They're DEAD!
 
OK, maybe not dead, but they were clearly wrong and are, therefore dead to ME.
 
But I got thinking, today. More and more games are being announced for the PC and Xbox 360, only to change to a 360 exclusive before launch. Just in the last week Alan Wake and Dead Space 2 have had announcements that they will only be made for consoles. Halo 3 looks like its never coming to the PC (don't actually care about this one, to be honest). Not to mention the Sony-exclusives. C'mon, guys. We're not the Xbox. Let me have Uncharted 2 and Hard Rain, dammit! I finished Indigo Prophecy and need to see what's next!
 
Does this mean that the PC is becoming the Amiga? It was the ubiquity of the PC that lead to its dominance over the Amiga, but surely that's happening with consoles. Console game sales are outstripping the PC all the time - even with genres born on the PC. I STILL can't do the FPS on a controller thing, I'm afraid.
 
Developers like Valve and Bioware give me hope for the future of PC games, but I still worry that one day, all we'll get (besides Valve and Bioware titles) is a parade of shonky console ports.
 
Actually, as long as Valve and Bioware stick with us, it might be ok.
 
Edit: This is not meant to come across as a "the sky is falling!" post. I was just remembering those smug Amiga guys and wondered if I'm feeling SOME of what they must have felt. There have been quite a few disappointing announcements regarding the PC versions of certain games, but the PC gaming industry remains strong. I'm not looking to change any time soon and I don't think I'll see the need. I DO hope they confirm Dead Space 2 on the PC, but :)

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Posted by Anathem

Back in The Day - the 80's, yo - when polygons were pixels and games were something that only the nerds did, there was a games store near my house called the Hard Disk Café (I know, right?). The guys that ran it were a couple of bemulleted Amiga fans - and so most of the stock was Amiga games, with a fair amount of Atari ST and a small, video-store-porn-section-sized-(or-so-I-hear-never-seen-one-myself) PC section.
 
I remember walking past all the shiny Psygnosis posters to get to my corner of shame where, for all of 5 minutes - it didn't take long, I checked out the PC stuff. From time to time I'd get talking with the owners. Once, I suggested that PC support was improving every year and maybe, just MAYBE, the PC could be a dominant gaming platform some day.
 
They laughed in their snide, bemulletted way. 
 
Well, where are they now? I'll tell you where. They're DEAD!
 
OK, maybe not dead, but they were clearly wrong and are, therefore dead to ME.
 
But I got thinking, today. More and more games are being announced for the PC and Xbox 360, only to change to a 360 exclusive before launch. Just in the last week Alan Wake and Dead Space 2 have had announcements that they will only be made for consoles. Halo 3 looks like its never coming to the PC (don't actually care about this one, to be honest). Not to mention the Sony-exclusives. C'mon, guys. We're not the Xbox. Let me have Uncharted 2 and Hard Rain, dammit! I finished Indigo Prophecy and need to see what's next!
 
Does this mean that the PC is becoming the Amiga? It was the ubiquity of the PC that lead to its dominance over the Amiga, but surely that's happening with consoles. Console game sales are outstripping the PC all the time - even with genres born on the PC. I STILL can't do the FPS on a controller thing, I'm afraid.
 
Developers like Valve and Bioware give me hope for the future of PC games, but I still worry that one day, all we'll get (besides Valve and Bioware titles) is a parade of shonky console ports.
 
Actually, as long as Valve and Bioware stick with us, it might be ok.
 
Edit: This is not meant to come across as a "the sky is falling!" post. I was just remembering those smug Amiga guys and wondered if I'm feeling SOME of what they must have felt. There have been quite a few disappointing announcements regarding the PC versions of certain games, but the PC gaming industry remains strong. I'm not looking to change any time soon and I don't think I'll see the need. I DO hope they confirm Dead Space 2 on the PC, but :)

Posted by Von

Nah, not completely dead since I run AmigaOS 4.1 on a PegII at home. 
 
But the PC won't become another Amiga. Mainly because the PC still got a huge market and will for quite some time, and I don't see any sign at all that that trend will change. Consoles will never get all the games we get for the PC and if they do, they're usually... 'consolidized', and usually the greatest games (that makes sense to play on a PC) sooner or later comes to the PC and vice versa.

Posted by ThatFrood

Plus, a lot of overseas developers (excluding Japan) develop almost exclusively for the pc and come out with some kickass games "Call of Pripyat"
 
So no. Pc ain't dyin. Of course it ain't. Don't be stupid.

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Posted by lizardspike

I love my Amiga, it's sitting in my parents' house untouched an A1200 with hard drive. The frame has a big crack in it and the esc key has fallen off, but I don't care it's still beautiful to me.  PCs won't go the way of the Amiga, unless a new kind of SUPER Amiga comes out and replaces all PCs in buisnesses and homes. For a start PCs have Steam, there's plenty of games to buy on there. It's like a shop but on the interwebs, so you don't have to talk to any weirdos that work in real shops that sell PC games. Not that many shops sell PC games anymore, what's up with that? The 1C Company for instance still produce and publish the greatest selection of broken Eastern European PC games. And for that I'd like to thank the 1C company for much enjoyment.

Posted by bhhawks78

Pc games will have a MAJOR renaissance "next gen" when ps4/wiihd/360X2 only have small bumps to graphical power to keep costs down (hardware and software dev) and then even midline laptops will be able to handle big new releases.  *Of course there will be the segment who will play it on a high end pc with a crazy high res/framerate

Posted by crystalskull2

I'm sure my grandson will answer this same question 40 years later.

Edited by PenguinDust

Haw-haw, how do you think I feel?  I had an Atari ST!   Anyway, the truth of the matter is eventually the PC will be replaced by something else.  Maybe a Super-IPad or some other more powerful, more versatile tablet.  Nothing lasts forever and like the Amiga and the Apple II before it, things change.  The PC is integrated into our homes and workplaces so asking the majority of the population to change quickly is about as unlikely as asking everyone to switch from gas to electric cars.  However, eventually, everyone will switch to something else when the technology is perfected, the costs are cheap, and the benefits of change outweigh the difficulties.  I don't believe the console is going to kill the PC as a game platform, because I think that system is on its way out, too.  In the next 10 years something will pop up (if it hasn't already) that will take us all in a new direction.  But, these things take time and are often unpredictable. 

Posted by Anathem
@ThatFrood: No, of course it won't die. But publishers sure like kicking us in the nuts, these days. Some developers too, for that matter. Dammit, Infinity Ward... we used to be friends.
Posted by Alex_Murphy

Some video rental stores have a surprisingly big porn section. Although the people who work there are usually crap at recommendations. NOT EVERYONE IS INTO FEET GOD DAMMIT!
 
But I don't think PC gaming will ever completely go away. It's just that the 360 is a uniform system, when you make games for the PC you have to think about every possible configuration of CPU's, video cards, and RAM.

Posted by Jimbo

Not until something replaces the non-game functionality of a PC.  The PC made the Amiga completely obsolete - nothing has done that to the PC yet.

Posted by obiwan

Don't worry mate, PC gaming won't die out, in fact, it's feisty as ever. See those games on Facebook e.g. Farmville, Restaurant City? That's the future of PC gaming.

Posted by Geno

There are more than enough great exclusives on PC to play, my back catalog is already so huge that I wouldn't get to playing Dead Space 2 or Alan Wake for a long time anyway. Also, Steam has reportedly doubled its user base within the past year alone, so I wouldn't say PC gaming is dying if that's what you're inferring. 

Posted by Anathem
@Geno: Not that it's dying as such, but becoming a second-class citizen platform-wise. Dead Space is a great example. The first felt like a flawed console port (but I loved it). We don't even get the second one.
Posted by NoXious

The moment you decide to exclusively own a PC is the moment you should ask yourself if you're really a gamer :-S

There's too many console exclusives out to date already for a gamer to NOT own a cheap Xbox 360.

Edited by Binman88

@NoXious said:

"

The moment you decide to exclusively own a PC is the moment you should ask yourself if you're really a gamer :-S

"


 

  

Posted by eclipsesis

Good read. Man i still have two working Amiga's 

Posted by Feanor

Well if you think about it, the PC is more secure than any console when it comes to its gaming future.  Computers main function is not playing games.  It does not rely on video game sales to stay alive.  Maybe PC will never have the most games, but it will always have something.  And who knows, maybe the Xbox or PlayStation go under in the next decade or so.
 
Plus PC gaming is a lot more popular than people think.  Look at how well WoW does, and just wait to see the sales reports on Starcraft 2 and Diablo 3. PC games are more about quality than quantity.

Posted by Creamypies
@NoXious said:
"

The moment you decide to exclusively own a PC is the moment you should ask yourself if you're really a gamer :-S

There's too many console exclusives out to date already for a gamer to NOT own a cheap Xbox 360.

"
I have to agree with this statement. If you really care that much about games, you would own a console as well. Like the OP said, there are far too many console exclusives these days (moreso on the PS3). Just think about what you are missing: 
 
PS3 - Uncharted, Heavy Rain, Ratchet, Killzone, God of War, Demon's Souls, Infamous, The Last Guardian, LittleBigPlanet, Metal Gear Solid 4, Resistance.
 
360 - Alan Wake, Banjo, Crackdown, Fable, Forza, Halo, Project Gotham, Shadow Complex.
 
Wii - Mario and Zelda dude!
 
There's also a number of games that come out only on consoles.
Posted by Bellum
@NoXious said:
"

The moment you decide to exclusively own a PC is the moment you should ask yourself if you're really a gamer :-S

There's too many console exclusives out to date already for a gamer to NOT own a cheap Xbox 360.

"
 
There are too many great games on PC than I haven't even touched yet for me to give a shit, really.
Posted by endaround

Did you copy this blog post from your AOL home page from 1996 and add in some Alan Wake and Dead Space references?

Edited by Geno
@Anathem said:

" @Geno: Not that it's dying as such, but becoming a second-class citizen platform-wise. Dead Space is a great example. The first felt like a flawed console port (but I loved it). We don't even get the second one. "

Not getting the exclusives of one platform doesn't make it a second class-citizen, that would be like saying PS3 is a second class citizen to 360 because it doesn't get Halo or Gears, or saying 360 is a second class citizen to PS3 because it doesn't get LBP or Heavy Rain. The quality and quantity of games are there on the PC as it's there on the 360 and PS3. In fact I find there to be more, which is why I'm a PC gamer.  
 
Dead Space also ran and played flawlessly for me, I don't know what you're talking about there. 
Posted by ApocalypseLater

I've seen a lot of games and genres move away from the PC over the years and it finally prompted me to buy my first console since my Sega Genesis. I've had my PS3 for a month and I still don't have a game for it, although God of War 3 and Red Dead Redemption will probably change that.  Try as I might, I'm just not as interested in console gaming as I am in PC gaming.   As long as they still make FPS and Mass Effect style RPGs for the PC, I will likely never play one, even the exclusive ones, on a console. 
 
I don't feel like I've missed out by not having a console all these years and looking forward, I feel better about PC gaming now than I did just a year ago.  It's good that some of the best developers out there such as Blizzard, Bioware, DICE, and Valve are serious about PC gaming .

Posted by Anathem
@Geno: Dead Space was perfectly fine for me as well, but I had to use nHancer to get V-sync working without horrible mouse-lag.
Edited by Leptok

It'll just become kids on console and adults on PCs.
 
 
Yes that is oversimplified, but you'll never see something like Hearts of Iron on consoles.

Posted by Bellum
@ApocalypseLater: 
Brother in arms! Change your alignment so that we may recognize you on the field of battle! I shall get you my spare foam sword.
Posted by Fripplebubby
@Alex_Murphy said:
" Some video rental stores have a surprisingly big porn section. "
I have a surprisingly big porn section, if you know what i'm sayin'.  
 
But seriously the PC will probably become outdated at some point in time, but not until 3d hologram technology is pretty fly. That or we find some actual dragons to fly around and forget all about video games. 
 
But definitely one of the two.  
Posted by PureRok

So... this is a "Is PC Gaming Dying" thread, but just thinly disguised.

Posted by CL60

Nosir.

Posted by jmrwacko

What's all this about PC's being a dying breed in the casual market? Some of the most widely played games of all time (Half Life, WoW, Starcraft) are all on the PC, and $500 stock PC's nowadays can play old classics like Counterstrike and the Sims just fine. You see plenty of casual gamers playing PC games as well as console games, even if these games are older or freeware. PC's may be less profitable with casual gamers than consoles, but they are far from not being used for gaming at all.

Posted by AntiSocialFatMan

 There's an obvious shift. The consoles have always had their exclusives. They have big companies backing them and stuff, gobbling up smaller companies.  Games like Alan Wake or Dead Space 2 not coming to PC isn't anything new. The consoles have always had their exclusives. EA reneged about DS2 by the way, after the outcry. They now say 'maybe', which I take as 'yes, but 6 months later'.
 
But with this console gen, it's become quite apparent that few developers actually want to create games exclusively for the PC. It's just not cost-efficient to exclusively release a big name game on the PC unless you're called Blizzard or Valve (not that Valve is PC exclusive any more), and with multiplat-centric engines like UE3 (bleh) and the upcoming CryEngine 3 and id Tech 5, not releasing games for the consoles makes no sense, assuming there's a market there.
 
That's not to say we aren't still getting fucking awesome games. Obviously we are. We just aren't exclusively getting certain games that previously were exclusive to the PC, now that the consoles have become PC-lite. That's the only change. The PC not getting certain games is how it's always been. People just haven't noticed because previously the games that didn't come to the PC weren't desirable to PC gamers, either because of genre or poor visual fidelity.
 
Now, firstly, I can live without exclusives. Only idiots who rally under the banner flag of a particular system and sound the horns of (system) war on the internet actually care about stuff like that. After all, it validates the utterly arbitrary (and probably random) choice they made when they were younger. 
  
But secondly, like I said earlier, those PC exclusives only hit the consoles when there's a market. You know what I'm talking about: the RTS and the 4X. They may get the odd Red Alert 3 or hilariously bad SupCom port, but until the consoles get mice, they will never, ever compete for RTS and 4X. Creative Assembly, Blizzard, Stardock, Firaxis, Ironclad - these guys are PC guys.
 
And, sure, we may have lost a bunch of the big developers to multiplatforming, but have you noticed that indie developers today are making incredible games? Take a look at Amnesia, from the guys who made the Penumbra series. It's incredible. Take a look at Frozen Synapse. Looks awesome to me, as does Snapshot. Or older indie games - Crayon Physics Deluxe, Aquaria - really good games, only available on the PC. 
 
Everything changes over time, and gaming is no exception. But the change isn't as dire as so many people seem to think. Not even slightly. Sure, we may get a bad port of GTA4 and have to wait 7 months for Assassin's Creed 2, and we may never see Halo 3, but the idea of playing Super Meat Boy or Amnesia makes my nethers throb more than any of those big games ever could. The industry is so rote today. Indie games are exciting.
 
And for everyone else, hey, there's still World of WarCraft.

Posted by SeriouslyNow
@PureRok said:
" So... this is a "Is PC Gaming Dying" thread, but just thinly disguised. "
Yep.  Utter bullshit as usual.  Look at the Intel vs AMD / Nvidia vs ATI/AMD war that's ever raging on.  PC gaming is far from dead.
Posted by Fuzz_Butt

When PC gaming dies, so does Nvidia and ATI no?

Posted by AndrewB

When PC gaming "dies," Nvidia and ATI go on to continue the lucrative business of providing both enterprise-level graphics cards for 3D modelling and what have you, and continue to provide the graphics chips for mobile devices and game consoles.
 
When PC gaming "dies," the personal computer continues being relevant through the millions of other uses it has. It also continues to be the easiest way to emulate older game consoles.

Posted by SeriouslyNow
@AndrewB said:
" When PC gaming "dies," Nvidia and ATI go on to continue the lucrative business of providing both enterprise-level graphics cards for 3D modelling and what have you, and continue to provide the graphics chips for mobile devices and game consoles.  When PC gaming "dies," the personal computer continues being relevant through the millions of other uses it has. It also continues to be the easiest way to emulate older game consoles. "
Sorry mate, but if the 3D accelerator market for 3D modelling was so lucrative then those aimed at that market wouldn't need to be so expensive.  The same goes for large scale data computing cards.  Those markets, while still extremely relevant to companies like Nvidia and ATI are actually funded directly from the income drawn by selling consumer grade graphics chips to Laptop/netbook/handheld/console manufacturers and in to companies who provide consumer grade desktop graphics cards.  The professional grade 3D accelerator business is neither lucrative nor a large portion of either company's production schedule.  
 
I've done work in broadcast computer animation in terms of advertising and film and my experience goes all the way back to 3D Studio 4 for DOS/Win 3.1 and I can tell you that companies who purchase Quadro cards only do so once every couple of years for their CG stations because they purchase their software and hardware in rather slow upgrade cycles in order to not confuse or muck with work flow practices.  It's definitely somewhat more regular in the games industry as they need to be able to keep abreast of new shader techniques and so forth, but still it is pretty much a plateau for around 18 months before they too think of upgrading.  This is even more true of today's console driven markets where SDK are supplied from the console vendors themselves and the developers work on the same fixed standards in terms of hardware (and software somewhat, though this updates more frequently for a variety of reasons) for a good number of years.
 
@Fuzz_Butt said:
" When PC gaming dies, so does Nvidia and ATI no? "
Well no they wouldn't but a lot of the competitive focus will die off though.  Both companies would still be producing portable GPU and SoC (System on a Chip) solutions and that would make them somewhat competitive but it wouldn't be as it is now where the PC battleground allows them to quickly turn over their product cycles in the race to provide the best 3D experience.  Without PC gaming both companies would actually shrink to some degree.
Posted by AndrewB
@SeriouslyNow: And that's precisely why both companies are pushing the GPGPU model. Of course, that will be such a niche market for so many ages I hope they aren't counting on it for much. I didn't mean that neither company would feel the pain, but they wouldn't effing cease to exist like some people seem to believe.
Posted by SeriouslyNow

Yep.  The GPGPU model is more in line with their SoC ideals for the future.  Nvidia will at some point either by bought by Intel or sign some deal with a company like Intel, Transmeta, Hitachi or someone similar to eventually provide a complete complete SoC solution where the GPU also does mainline processing as well.  The GPGPU market at present is just as specialised as the professional graphics market is and there's very little profit to be had in contractual deals which are signed off for a minimum of 5 years. I'm hoping it stays that way for the foreseeable future but AMD's upcoming IGP Fusion range seems to indicate that it may not.

Edited by Anathem

Clarification on original post: I do NOT believe that PC gaming will "die", but there is definitely a shift away from it being the defacto standard for "bleeding edge" games. 
 
Console games used to be one thing and PC games the other. Occassionally, a game would come out on both but it wasn't common until the original Xbox was released. Now, obviously, we have more and more franchises ditching the PC versions altogether in favour of the console market. 
 
I was reminded of how this happened to the Amiga, but I reckon we'll turn out a lot better than that platform did.
 
The insane shit that DRM is doing to honest PC game buyers now isn't helping, though...

Posted by blackbird415

the funny thing is all you guys use the term pc when you are really refering to microsoft windows. PC simply means personal computer, the "PC" when its vocabulary is used RIGHT will of course never die, even still, it wont die, people still want something to distract them from work and procrastinate. The apple products are PCs in reality, and technically speaking xbox360 is a PC (you can infact load windows xp onto it) ps3 is a PC and even a wii is a PC. They are all computers, they compute things :P. the real big difference is 
they run under different effecient operating systems optimized to only play games and whatnot, and have specific hardware architecture for such use. I know im being a smart ass :P, but its true

Posted by blackbird415
@SeriouslyNow: right now amd is winning the battle in the video card market (in terms of quality)
Edited by SeriouslyNow
@Anathem said:

" Clarification on original post: I do NOT believe that PC gaming will "die", but there is definitely a shift away from it being the defacto standard for "bleeding edge" games.   Console games used to be one thing and PC games the other. Occassionally, a game would come out on both but it wasn't common until the original Xbox was released. Now, obviously, we have more and more franchises ditching the PC versions altogether in favour of the console market.   I was reminded of how this happened to the Amiga, but I reckon we'll turn out a lot better than that platform did. The insane shit that DRM is doing to honest PC game buyers now isn't helping, though... "

That's utter bullshit Anathem.  There is no shift away from PC being the 'bleeding edge' standard in games.  DX11 and 3D Visor technology support?  Are either of those launched on consoles yet? NO. Franchises aren't ditching PC, they're moving to consoles when they started out on PC, some forever but the majority are just going multiplatform and many developers are making sure that their PC versions stand alone from their console counterparts.  Mass Effect 2, Bioshock 2 and Battlefield Bad Company 2 (whose previous title never was released on PC at all) are just a few examples of specifically built and better performing PC versions.  Metro 2033 is another example of a PC version which has specific bleeding edge DX11 features which are not possible on either console.  The same goes for Dirt 2.  Then there's ArmA II which has battles of such epic scope and proportion that it couldn't hope to run at all on either HD console.
 
Please STFU.  You're embarrassing informed PC gamers with your 'sky is falling' crap.
Posted by SeriouslyNow
@Anathem:
Also on the Amiga side of the equation, I would hazard a guess that you know utterly fuck all about the Amiga, its history and why it faded from viability.  Should you wish to have a discussion on the matter, feel free to try.  Nub.
 
@blackbird415 said:
" @SeriouslyNow: right now amd is winning the battle in the video card market (in terms of quality) "

Yeah, right now.  It remains to be seen what Fermi will do to change up that lead.  It's not far from release too.
Posted by Jambones
@Jimbo said:
" Not until something replaces the non-game functionality of a PC.  The PC made the Amiga completely obsolete - nothing has done that to the PC yet. "
Posted by Anathem
@SeriouslyNow: Name calling now? 
 
I'm having a discussion. You're acting like a dick, quite frankly.
 
Feel free to enlighten us. Unlike you, I'm interested in someone else's opinion.
Posted by Anathem
@AntiSocialFatMan: Agree on all accounts.
 
You're right about the indie game scene. It's much easier for solo devs to get their stuff out there. Hell, look at 'vvvvvv'. It was made in Flash and it got a quick look on this site.
 
The PC will always have it's PC-focuses developers. I don't see Valve doing the console-shift any time soon and Bioware treated us nicely with Dragon Age.
 
It sucks a bit that shooters aren't starting on the PC any more and we only get so many of them. Hell, I can live without Halo in my life, but I hated what MW2 became. Battlefield BC2 should make things better, though :) 
 
I'm happy if we get good story-driven games too. It was disappointing that Sony got the exclusive on Hard Rain. The first game was great. It sucks that they decided to ditch Alan Wake on PC. Here's hoping we don't have to wait six months for Dead Space 2.
Posted by SeriouslyNow
@Anathem: You're not having a discussion, your flouncing about looking for attention,  A discussion is when two more parties respond to each point of discussion in detail, weighing the pros and cons and backing up their claims with evidence.  All you've done so far is to make some baseless statements regarding 'franchises' of which you've given only one example being the aforementioned Dead Space (which is barely considered as a franchise because at the time of release it was only one multiplatform game, since then there has been Extraction only on Wii and the sequel which is set to be multiplatform) which you consider to be a poor port on PC (yet runs fine on mine, Geno's and many other people's PCs which looks considerably more detailed at hjigher resolutions than the console version's 720p while also running  smoother framerate than the console versions, especially when shit gets busy)  and otherwise you just make the assertion that the PC is going the way of the Amiga without supporting any evidence.  
 
Pray tell, Anathem, what do you know of the Amiga?
Posted by Yukoei
@Anathem said:
" @AntiSocialFatMan: Agree on all accounts.  You're right about the indie game scene. It's much easier for solo devs to get their stuff out there. Hell, look at 'vvvvvv'. It was made in Flash and it got a quick look on this site.  The PC will always have it's PC-focuses developers. I don't see Valve doing the console-shift any time soon and Bioware treated us nicely with Dragon Age.  It sucks a bit that shooters aren't starting on the PC any more and we only get so many of them. Hell, I can live without Halo in my life, but I hated what MW2 became. Battlefield BC2 should make things better, though :)   I'm happy if we get good story-driven games too. It was disappointing that Sony got the exclusive on Hard Rain. The first game was great. It sucks that they decided to ditch Alan Wake on PC. Here's hoping we don't have to wait six months for Dead Space 2. "

Dead Space 2 is coming out on PC, I dont know what your on about.
Posted by Anathem
@Yukoei: I thought it was "under consideration". Awesome, if it's confirmed.
Edited by Anathem
@SeriouslyNow: What do I know of the Amiga? Probably less than you. I did invite you to explain the Amiga's lack of commercial success.
 
Sorry, if you thought I was "flouncing about looking for attention". I wrote something on the blog and happened to tick the "why not post it on a forum" box. Obviously that was a mistake, as I don't actually like engaging in petty forum battles.
 
Shall I delete the thread?
 
Edit: BTW, the attention seeking post was titled "Is the PC becoming the new Amiga" and not "WAAAAH! The PC IS the new Amiga". It's not? Cool!
Posted by Yukoei
@Anathem said:

" @Yukoei: I thought it was "under consideration". Awesome, if it's confirmed. "


From the GiantBomb wiki - 
 

The game is confirmed to be released on the Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, and PC Q3 2010.  
 
Not that reliable but I have read it in mulitple places.
 
And by the way, sorry if I sounded like a dick when I said ''what are you on about" I only felt later that it sounded rude.
   
Posted by Funzzo

I checked EA.com and they are taking pre-orders on the PC, 360 and PS3 versions. No Alan Wake on PC is sad news.