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Six months to go from peon to princes

As most people on this website are probably aware of, I am male-to-female transgender. I started hormones back in September and three weeks ago was my six month mark so I'm here to talk to about that a little bit! The short short version of it is: My life is better now.

Hormones are a... interesting thing to experience. Besides the obvious physical changes which I will get into later, the psychological changes have been just as crazy. I find that I am much calmer now, more forgiving, more reasonable, more confident... but with that confidence, I have begun to assert myself more and stand up for myself and what I believe in which blends a little strangely sometimes with the fact that I am also a bit more emotional than I was before. I kind of kneejerk reaction to everything and I have to mentally check myself and step back, analyzing the situation after I calm myself down. It's been a weird thing to get used to... This is all when I'm not on my "period", which is when I get a litttttttttle crazy. I've posted a few times while under that influence and it isn't great.

I had a day after they changed my dosage where I yelled at both of my roommates, apologized, started crying, barricaded my door with my desk, unbarricaded it, had grilled cheese and tomato soup, cried that all I had was grilled cheese and tomato soup, angrily turned off The Last of Us because people were in the same building as me when I wanted to play it, tore apart a piece of paper for no reason other than I needed to destroy something and then cried in my bed wishing I had food that only comes from a place 20 miles away. All within an hour. Girly hormones are weird.

The physical changes have been quite dramatic as well. My skin is softer than it used to be, my body hair grows much slower, my face has changed shape a bit, I have boobs now, I've lost a LOT of muscle, and... well.. The first two here are from the last week, the third one is me two months before HRT and the last one is my ID from when I turned 21.

The things you can't see are that my arms are much smaller, my thighs are more feminine, my waist has curved a bit, my skin is MUCH softer... Ugh, I'M SO different. It's ridiculous. I dunno. I'm pretty now, and I love it.

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But how soft is your skin really? Like baby soft? GIVE ME ALL YOUR SOFT SKIN I NEED TO KNOW HOW SOFT IT IS

...Whoa, that got weird. Uh, congratulations on your amazing transformation.

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Congratulations!

@artelinarose said:

[...] not every trans person wants or even needs to be an ambassador for "their people" and expecting them to be is a little ridiculous. [...] we are not encyclopedias to be poked and prodded at your convenience, we are human beings just the same as everyone else [...]

I think that, in the end, this is a important point for everyone to remember. We're all human beings, even if we're different in some ways. Let's all treat each other like it.

Lina is being gracious by fielding some questions in this comment thread, but try not to abuse that goodwill. If you have an extremely basic Transgenderism 101 question, you can probably find that information for yourself. If you have an overly blunt or intimate personal question, first ask yourself: would you ask that question to a person's face in real life?

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@artelinarose said:

Nyx did a really really good job of explaining things without coming off as a jerk. Should listen to her.

If you come in and try to tell two trans women that they are using their community's language wrong and they don't know what they're talking about, surprise! You are exactly the kind of person they are talking about when they say "fucking cis people" because in this context, it means "those who are famously ignorant of gender minority issues and don't bother recognizing it."

1 to 2 percent of the world's population are born with green eyes. Imagine for a second that someone is doing research on the topic of people with green eyes. They would have to come up with a term to describe those people, and they would need another term to describe people with any other eye color besides green. This makes sense that researchers would need both terms, but most people would only need to use the term that was associated with the outlier.

So if ignorant people would be asking stupid and / or rude questions about what it's like to be a *term for green eyed people*, I can easily see why a person with green eyes might want to use *term for non-green eyed people* as a way to describe them, along with some other colorful language. But using the word this way is a clearly a slur, because it's completely unnecessary. You can word a hostile reply as a personal attack directed to an individual. There's no need to associate an entire group along with your attack, unless the entire group is the target of attack.

"Fucking cis people" isn't any different than "fucking black people" or "fucking gay people." It includes everyone a group, without exception. So when you say...

"There are a list of insensitive questions that cis people seem to loooove asking transgender individuals, and this is one of them."

and

"Cis people have a weird preoccupation with trans people's genitals, it seems. I don't get it."

Does that mean that ALL non-transgender people love asking insensitive questions? Does that mean that ALL non-transgender people have a weird preoccupation with trans people's genitals?

The fact is, you can't say "cis people..." and follow it up with anything other than "identify with the gender of the sex they were born as" without speaking in a generalization. How is that any different than "black people" [insert stereotype here]?

Rather than saying "cis people" why not say "some people" or "many people" or even "most people"? Or basically anything else besides something that means "everyone who isn't a transgender person [insert generalization here]".

With that all having been said, I really am very happy to read that everything is going so well for you. Congratulations on everything so far, and I wish you all the best in the future.

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@spaceinsomniac: Thank you, this is exactly what I was talking about by saying that it came off as aggressive. Unfortunately some people get hyper defensive and try to over think it.

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@wampa1 said:

@artelinarose: "I'm pretty now, and I love it" Put a real smile on my face, I usually hate anything "sappy" but I'm glad this all worked out internet stranger!

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Keep doing what makes you happy...

There's nothing worse than walking around on Earth not liking who you are.

Congratulations...

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Can I come out in favor of !the continued, sensible use of 'cis'. If someone makes you feel shitty with the way they refer to you as 'cis', especially if you think they're doing it on purpose, the problem is with that person and not the word. The word is innocent, the word means what it means. It's the asshole using it to make you feel like shit that you should worry about.

Think of it the difference between "that's my gay friend" and "that's that fucking gay guy lets get em". The problem in the second example is not the word "gay".

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I wish more people knew the difference between gender and sex.

Sex refers to a set of biological and physiological characteristics.

Gender is a set of socially constructed behaviors, roles, and activities that a given society considers appropriate for men and women.

Once you separate these two concepts you can see the extremely wide variety of human sexual and gender expressions that make us all so neat. There was an interesting article on Polygon recently about using the Oculus Rift to see yourself with different sex characteristics than you're used to. It's an incredible way of building empathy, and understanding the sensation that the body you experience physically is not the one you possess mentally.

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I had a really big thing typed up but I figured this would suffice

Congratulations, you've won the "shitty things cis people say and do to delegitimize the experiences of trans people" bingo in this thread! You only missed two or three squares!

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Congratulations on your happiness! I hope your hormone stuff keeps going well!

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@artelinarose said:

@spaceinsomniac

I had a really big thing typed up but I figured this would suffice

Congratulations, you've won the "shitty things cis people say and do to delegitimize the experiences of trans people" bingo in this thread! You only missed two or three squares!

Did you reply to the wrong post or something?

Here I specifically did legitimize the experiences of trans people, along with the general concept of minorities dealing with rude people, and wanting to verbally attack them:

@spaceinsomniac said:

1 to 2 percent of the world's population are born with green eyes. Imagine for a second that someone is doing research on the topic of people with green eyes. They would have to come up with a term to describe those people, and they would need another term to describe people with any other eye color besides green. This makes sense that researchers would need both terms, but most people would only need to use the term that was associated with the outlier.

So if ignorant people would be asking stupid and / or rude questions about what it's like to be a *term for green eyed people*, I can easily see why a person with green eyes might want to use *term for non-green eyed people* as a way to describe them, along with some other colorful language. But using the word this way is a clearly a slur, because it's completely unnecessary. You can word a hostile reply as a personal attack directed to an individual. There's no need to associate an entire group along with your attack, unless the entire group is the target of attack.

Here I specifically support you and the experience that you're currently going through:

@spaceinsomniac said:

With that all having been said, I really am very happy to read that everything is going so well for you. Congratulations on everything so far, and I wish you all the best in the future.

And the rest of my post was an argument of why using "cis people" as a generalization or way of attacking a group is no better than using any human characteristic to make a generalization or attack a group. There was nothing about delegitimizing the experiences of trans people about it. You can reread the whole post, but the basic crux of the argument is this:

@spaceinsomniac said:

The fact is, you can't say "cis people..." and follow it up with anything other than "identify with the gender of the sex they were born as" without speaking in a generalization. How is that any different than "black people" [insert stereotype here]?

Rather than saying "cis people" why not say "some people" or "many people" or even "most people"? Or basically anything else besides something that means "everyone who isn't a transgender person [insert generalization here]".

If you care to respond to these specific questions, I would still be interested in hearing what you have to say.

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You look fantastic! Congrats, bud.