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Also if anyone cares where I'm coming from: never read any of the books. I've wanted to, but got so far into the show I just stuck with that. I am disappointed in the show right now as a show and not because of any expectations or deviations from source material or anything. It's just a poorly done TV show in this last episodes and in several arcs/characters this season.

Joffrey had something to his character. He was kind of a little psycho himself but he was given all this power and manipulated by so many forces that they kind of made him what he was. He was given the throne, but everyone wanted to control it, and so, to me, he was trying to make and impact and prove himself and his power however he could, in super misguided ways obviously.

Ramsay is two dimensional on a show where every other character is three dimensional (not everyone, but I feel like they honestly try with the others and maybe just don't have the time to develop them). He feels like a cartoon character dropped into this interesting world. He has almost no relations to other characters (some are developing now, but they are "OH FUCK THIS GUYS CRAZY AND HE'S TORTURING ME"). And he gets so much screen time!

I would love to see a break down of percentage of characters on screen or something. I bet he is one of the top characters in the last season or two and there is nothing interesting about his character, it hasn't developed, no depth is shown, etc.

Pretty well put. Like I say above, Joffrey was kind of a little psycho but to me there are a lot of interesting factors to him in his relation to the other characters. His father who was really trying to rule, Jamie and Cersei trying to find their place and as his parents, Sansa's position as a spurned match, etc. Also, I find child kings super interesting, the fact that it would happen and how that could go. He was basically a little brat, but with so much power, the consequences are dire for everyone else.

No problem, I don't mean to be over the top and didn't mean to be insulting, it's just honestly how I look at the show. I think about it as a work of fiction. Frankly, I can watch some real dark shit in a show and not have a bad reaction to it. It's just a matter of if I might see the purpose of it most of all, for me.

Like I didn't get the Jamie raping Cersei scene next to Joffrey's dead body either. This was awful. It's been awful scene after awful scene with Ramsay and where has it gone? What have we learned? What has changed with Ramsay? Nothing. Maybe that's their point? He's so evil? I just think it's very poorly done and sort of ruins the whole spirit of the show, with shades of gray and characters where even if you hate them, you might understand them and they might not be such a 2D evil guy.

It wasn't my only issue with the episode either. How about all that build up for the terrorist action and it gets blown up in two seconds. How about Jamie and Bronn (sp?) just waltz into the royal gardens as two white guys because I guess hey they are wearing turbans so that's good enough to pass through any security?

So for the past week or so, I post in threads and I'll see my post in the thread just fine. Then I might exit the thread and come back and my post is gone from my view. Still says I am the last to post in a given thread and has the right time for me posting in the main page of the forums. I am not sure if my posts are just not showing up for me or if others cannot see them as well.

For example, discussing the last Game of Thrones episode in that thread, I responded to another poster, then for my that response is nowhere to be found (but did say I posted last in the thread). Then the poster just responded to my comment so they must have at least seen it for a minute at least. But it doesn't show up for me at all.

I did edit the comment. Perhaps that has something to do with it?

Here's my view of the thread I'm referencing. You can see the other poster respond to me but my second post is gone.

I am using Firefox. Haven't ever had this problem before.

Hey that's part of why I don't like it. But I can step back and see it's a show though and think about how all this was crafted and say "that's really dumb and in poor taste". Like I said, bad episode. Ramsay is a stupid character and he ruins the show.

I'm a big patience guy with this show. And I've always liked it.

Have to be honest. It's losing me right now. The last episode was kind of just bad, it wasn't that not much happened. I mean not a ton did happen, but everything that did? Questionable.

The Ramsay part is absolutely ruining it for me. There is nothing redeeming or interesting about his character whatsoever. My friend and I actually started laughing at the end of the show tonight because of how dumb it was and over the top. This is not something we have ever done.

Vernon Roche is definitely not Geralt's best friend. He has his own interests and so does Geralt, even if they happened to choose to work together in your game. I think Roche would slit Geralt's throat if it was in his best interest or his master told him to.

I like to play Geralt as a little anti-human but not so trusting of the other side either. He's his own man, perpetually stuck in the middle.

I do like Roche tho. Even tho I went to the other side, it was cool how you can still have a moment of cooperation later with a bit of "enemy of my enemy is my friend". In my game, they are no aligned.

But anyways, practically every JRPG has a best friend type character. Every party based RPG basically does. Garrus was unique, being a through line in a trilogy. I personally never have liked him all that much. He's fine, but not a stand out companion in any game.

This is a good call. Temporary alliance and you could see them fighting each other if things broke differently.

@gaspower: Yup. Really launched a rivalry at least I personally always felt vs the Bulls as a C's fan. Obviously, Rose looks way more athletic there, but speaking of Noah, kinda sad to see him playing how he is now given how he was there, really dunking a lot plus that huge break away steal/dunk that fouled Pierce out of the game. He became more skilled as he went on but dude used to be a damn good athlete. We will see how he continues but doesn't look the same to me.

@csl316: Yeah it got a bit carried away a couple times but damn, so many ties and back and forth moments. Gordon was so impressive in that series and Salmons was pretty awesome too.

When talking about Ray being clutch, he had two shots over Noah there that were just insane. Particularly, that one two pt fadaway where Noah couldn't possibly have contested it better and I still don't get how the shot got off cleanly.

As a Rondo fan, sad seeing him in that series too. The injury cost him athleticism, but clearly I think it cost him the mentality that made him so dangerous. He used to attack the rim like a banshee. So much of the game is mental.

Anyways, fun to watch that video and remember that series.

well a quick search led me to this compilation:

About to check it out myself. Hopefully it does the series justice. It was a cool series as a Celtics fans. That season was a gut blow (practically even more in retrospect) because of the KG injury but I was always super proud of how Celtics teams fought on after the virtually perfect 2008 season.

EDIT: watching the first couple minutes already giving me flashbacks that are jogging my memory. Ben Gordon and Ray were trading clutch basket after clutch basket in this series. Forgot about Gordon. It was his last relevant moments I believe in the NBA.

And part of the reason it comes to mind for clutch moments: tons of opportunities. There were seven total overtime periods in the series and game 6 (when Ray had 51) went to triple over time.

Also KG raving like a mad man on the bench hahah.