As long as the only day one dlc is items then who cares

I agree. It's actually offputting and makes me less enthusiastic about the game, what with having to wait to buy it, since I'll have missed out on all those items etc. that I'd like to be able to access for... you know... buying their game. I mean, they put (minimal) effort into making all of this stuff. I'd kind of expect them to want everyone to have the same awesome experience. 
 
At the same time, I feel like I shouldn't worry. Given the quality of the first game compared to the quality of most of the DLC, I don't think I'll be missing out on much (especially since this is pretty much all items that won't e necessary, but would obviously be nice to be able to get since they'll surely be powerful).

There's no such thing as too much, Fez.  
 
Someone will get that reference. 

I didn't like all those retailer specific preorder bonuses in Mass Effect 2 nor did I like those little gun packs, and now they're adding a bonus for playing their facebook game?
This makes me want Dragon Age II less.    

why isnt this just in the game it makes no sense

idc so long as the DLC isn't crap like it seems to be for every Bioware game ever. They really need to keep the expansion content in-house.

" If those items are anything like the ones that you got with the original Dragon Age, they're alright, but will eventually be outclassed by something else you find in game (although, to be fair, the Blood Dragon armor was probably the single best piece of heavy armor in the base game). Sure, there's an absolute shit ton of them, but the only things you should care about are the Companion Quest and the Black Emporium, as those are the only things that represent meaningful content instead of just fluffy bonus items of dubious quality. "

DLC is just part of the hype these days, I guess. Origins had a similar thing going on, with the flash games they had on Bioware's official site. At least most of this stuff is either essentially free (depending on how you value your time), or stuff that you'll get just for buying the game new anyway. My concern is how much will come later, and whether they'll pull the stunt they did with Origins, where a key bit of functionality (having a place to store excess items) was tied to the DLC.

 "Surely he must be in jest!"
 
 That's what I thought when I saw that list! But as long as there is no DLC companion I'm fine.
 
 
 
Oh wait.

If you are on PC there is a simple solution for retarded day one DLC bonuses:
 
1. Buy the game.
2. Torrent the version with all the day one DLC included.
3. Profit.

Most of it is really small stuff, basic weapons and armor that won't have a huge effect on the game. The rest is cool stuff. I'm only bothered that they screwed so many people out of the signature edition, and that there has yet to be a collectors edition with all of the stuff included.

Yeah all of that junky DLC for just a weapon...no way am I ever going to pay $0.99 for a sword in a video game...i just can't justify that. But the different retailers all getting separate pre-order bonus' does get annoying! I'm pretty sure that I pre-ordered Batman at EBGames before I was even aware that Wal-Mart was offering something else. I only get DLC if its more game play!

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" Definitely a lot of DLC there. Trying to recoup costs. Does kinda turn me off that people can just pay to get the good items instead of playing the game. "

How does how other people play affect the way you will play? If people want to buy the best stuff up front, it's up to them. Sure they won't earn it, but you can earn it in your game. "

It's kind of a cheap cop out more on the business front. They don't care enough about the game, they just want people to pay as much money as possible. Just business I guess. "

I think that's a bit over dramatic. "

I'm sure the upper-management thinks that way. But they're all slime balls anyway. "

Then don't play their games, if you hate them so much. "

Did I say I hate them? "

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" Definitely a lot of DLC there. Trying to recoup costs. Does kinda turn me off that people can just pay to get the good items instead of playing the game. "

How does how other people play affect the way you will play? If people want to buy the best stuff up front, it's up to them. Sure they won't earn it, but you can earn it in your game. "

It's kind of a cheap cop out more on the business front. They don't care enough about the game, they just want people to pay as much money as possible. Just business I guess. "

I think that's a bit over dramatic. "

I'm sure the upper-management thinks that way. But they're all slime balls anyway. "

Then don't play their games, if you hate them so much. "

Meh doesn't affect me none. Most of that stuff I won't even use or get. Only DLC I am interested in is Exiled Prince.

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" Definitely a lot of DLC there. Trying to recoup costs. Does kinda turn me off that people can just pay to get the good items instead of playing the game. "

How does how other people play affect the way you will play? If people want to buy the best stuff up front, it's up to them. Sure they won't earn it, but you can earn it in your game. "

It's kind of a cheap cop out more on the business front. They don't care enough about the game, they just want people to pay as much money as possible. Just business I guess. "

I think that's a bit over dramatic. "

I'm sure the upper-management thinks that way. But they're all slime balls anyway. "

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" @Lukeweizer said:

" Definitely a lot of DLC there. Trying to recoup costs. Does kinda turn me off that people can just pay to get the good items instead of playing the game. "

How does how other people play affect the way you will play? If people want to buy the best stuff up front, it's up to them. Sure they won't earn it, but you can earn it in your game. "

It's kind of a cheap cop out more on the business front. They don't care enough about the game, they just want people to pay as much money as possible. Just business I guess. "

I think that's a bit over dramatic. "

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" @Lukeweizer said:

" Definitely a lot of DLC there. Trying to recoup costs. Does kinda turn me off that people can just pay to get the good items instead of playing the game. "

How does how other people play affect the way you will play? If people want to buy the best stuff up front, it's up to them. Sure they won't earn it, but you can earn it in your game. "

It's kind of a cheap cop out more on the business front. They don't care enough about the game, they just want people to pay as much money as possible. Just business I guess. "

" @Lukeweizer said:

" Definitely a lot of DLC there. Trying to recoup costs. Does kinda turn me off that people can just pay to get the good items instead of playing the game. "

How does how other people play affect the way you will play? If people want to buy the best stuff up front, it's up to them. Sure they won't earn it, but you can earn it in your game. "

Most of these items are pretty meaningless and wont be worth keeping after playing the game for two hours, you are NOT losing anything by playing without them and if for some reason you feel that you got screwed because you didn't get a +2 sword that makes the begining of the game way too easy than you have bigger problems than too much DLC.

I can somewhat see them going crazy with the DLC on the pc versions due to it being easier to add in content to it, for the consoles I'd hope that they'd at least put all the weapon extras as a single pack to discover in the game. To put the weapons of that number out separately as different areas of DLC is a bit silly to me though I can understand why they are wanting to provide bonuses to users in all these areas. 
 
My issue with DLC weapons like this, Dragon Age 1 & even with Mass Effect2 was without any real way to compare existing weapons in the game to these DLC items, it made them as something completely voluntary. As in I didn't want to get them as they might not be any better than what I had at the time or just not worth the effort to get, I'd rather have DLC weapons/trinkets as free DLC per console/PC then have the paying DLC for the bonus missions.

" Definitely a lot of DLC there. Trying to recoup costs. Does kinda turn me off that people can just pay to get the good items instead of playing the game. "

" All that junk will be in the ULTIMATE EDITION anyway. It is extremely gay in my honest opinion. And not the good kind of gay. The worst kind. "

Can Haz Moar Horze Armorz!
 
Yeah its getting a little out of control with the DLC, particularly the day one promotion pre-order stuff.
 
Honestly I feel like pre-order DLC is a joke 90%. They can never make it too good, or people who buy the game later will feel pissed off and gipped. But they have to make it good enough to sound appetizing to game hyped consumers before the game is released, cause let's face it, if you find out your preorder special was junk, 9 times out of 10 you won't care, cause you'll be too buried in the game to notice.

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" If those items are anything like the ones that you got with the original Dragon Age, they're alright, but will eventually be outclassed by something else you find in game (although, to be fair, the Blood Dragon armor was probably the single best piece of heavy armor in the base game). Sure, there's an absolute shit ton of them, but the only things you should care about are the Companion Quest and the Black Emporium, as those are the only things that represent meaningful content instead of just fluffy bonus items of dubious quality. "

I have to wonder just how worthwhile the quest DLC will actually be, though.  The downloadable quests for the first game were by and large disappointing and shallow, with the only purpose behind them to acquire content that should have been in the base game (i.e.: A chest to store all of my excess stuff.) "

Definitely a lot of DLC there. Trying to recoup costs. Does kinda turn me off that people can just pay to get the good items instead of playing the game.

" Well, they're all just items, so it's not that big a deal.  "

I really do, but I can't help but question why half of this stuff couldn't just be in the game.

Well the only real DLC there is  The Exiled Prince.
The rest are just swords, shields and rings I won't not even call that DLC.

All that junk will be in the ULTIMATE EDITION anyway. It is extremely gay in my honest opinion. And not the good kind of gay. The worst kind.

This kind of DLC is the kind that upsets me. I enjoy "expansion" packs after day one that increase your time spent in the game. Those rings and everything really add nothing to the atmosphere to game other than "look what I got lifting a finger!"
 
If developers could just stick to solid content for DLC, then that part of the industry might actually flourish.

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" If those items are anything like the ones that you got with the original Dragon Age, they're alright, but will eventually be outclassed by something else you find in game (although, to be fair, the Blood Dragon armor was probably the single best piece of heavy armor in the base game). Sure, there's an absolute shit ton of them, but the only things you should care about are the Companion Quest and the Black Emporium, as those are the only things that represent meaningful content instead of just fluffy bonus items of dubious quality. "

I have to wonder just how worthwhile the quest DLC will actually be, though.  The downloadable quests for the first game were by and large disappointing and shallow, with the only purpose behind them to acquire content that should have been in the base game (i.e.: A chest to store all of my excess stuff.) "

Yeah, it's ridiculous. The only DLC worth getting is the companion, and if you didn't pre-order then you have to fork out another $7 for it when you've already fucking paid full price for the game. I'm not supporting EA's bullshit, so I doubt I'll be paying for it. 

It can all depends on the pricing, if it's expensive a lot of DLC being released is only going to shine a light on that and make it seem ridiculous. 
 
Also if I'm not up to date with a particular game and it has a lot of DLC it can seem overwhelming, I still haven't played Dragon Age yet and the thought of all that content scares me a little. I wouldn't mind new content for Mass Effect 2 though, I can never get enough, no costume packs don't count!

It's discusting to see such a beautiful company like bioware doing this kind off sh*t. I personally will simply ignore all of this nonsense, the dlc from the first dragon age didn't really add that much for me to the story. Apart from the Shale dlc which came free with all new copies of dragon age, so im not worried that i'll be a missing out on too much. Though i do think it's time for gaming companies to draw a line with all this dlc nonsense, and i advice them to take a look on this page http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/01/06/the-10-commandments-of-dlc/  and think about what dlc should be like.

" If those items are anything like the ones that you got with the original Dragon Age, they're alright, but will eventually be outclassed by something else you find in game (although, to be fair, the Blood Dragon armor was probably the single best piece of heavy armor in the base game). Sure, there's an absolute shit ton of them, but the only things you should care about are the Companion Quest and the Black Emporium, as those are the only things that represent meaningful content instead of just fluffy bonus items of dubious quality. "

If those items are anything like the ones that you got with the original Dragon Age, they're alright, but will eventually be outclassed by something else you find in game (although, to be fair, the Blood Dragon armor was probably the single best piece of heavy armor in the base game). Sure, there's an absolute shit ton of them, but the only things you should care about are the Companion Quest and the Black Emporium, as those are the only things that represent meaningful content instead of just fluffy bonus items of dubious quality.

This is kind of gross to me. Why can't this just be in the game as a reward for doing a quest? Also that Isaac Clarke armor is out of place.

Just preorder it everywhere, and give all the extra copies to friends. 
 
Then file for bankruptcy.

Only thing I care about is the companion. I don't need cheat loot for a game that's already going to be too easy.

Promotional DLC is fine by me, but the Pre-Order stuff annoys me sometimes, because it can be spread out among different retailers. Bioware/EA did not do that for DA2 really, but on the flipside DA2 on Steam was left out of the early Signature edition offer for no apparent reason. Probably still get it on Steam, but it's a sticking point.

It's alot of DLC's... that's for sure. And the game isn't even out yet.

" I think the route EA was taking with other games was ok. Limited Edition at the same price for all pre-orders & early buyers with some extra stuff at the same price was ok. Also the online functionality only for new games is ok I guess. But retailer specific bonuses or the limited edition (signature editon) preorder deadline ending before release are terrible things. EA is certainly testing the waters with DAII. "

I think the route EA was taking with other games was ok. Limited Edition at the same price for all pre-orders & early buyers with some extra stuff at the same price was ok. Also the online functionality only for new games is ok I guess. But retailer specific bonuses or the limited edition (signature editon) preorder deadline ending before release are terrible things. EA is certainly testing the waters with DAII.