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GB Anime 2012 Poll for Duders: The Results!

First off, I want to say thank you to all 25 of you in the thread that voted. I probably should've made this poll a separate topic. Maybe next year, but at least we got a decent sample of the regulars to the General Anime Thread in the Giant Bomb forums. I have tallied the votes and come up with both weighted and unweighted totals. I will post the full vote totals at the end of this blog post. Before I announce the winners, I'd like to pay tribute to a few that were ineligible.

Honorable Mentions

  • Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica: There were a couple of Madoka movies that came out in 2012, but the voter did not specify which one, so this one is ineligible. Even so, for those who have not already seen the show, I encourage you to do so at your earliest convenience. It is that amazing.
  • Asura's Wrath: Technically a video game but as a throwaway vote it's a pretty good one. Pretty much like a playable Dragonball Z, and it's probably cheap to buy now if you're curious.
  • Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2012): Not a Japanese anime, though it is animated. Also, I didn't know they made another one until I saw this one pop up on a ballot.
  • TRON Uprising: See above.

Okay, I've gotten those out of the way. Now to announce the Top 5 Winners! Winners were ranked first by unweighted vote, and ties were broken by weighted score. Save your inevitable arguments over my vote-counting methods in this unofficial poll for later.

#5: Tonari no Kaibutsu-kun ("My Little Monster")

A story about a girl. And a boy. And a chicken. And a weird girl. And some bullies. And another guy. And another girl. Light-hearted high school romance ensues. Even if it tilts more on the shoujo side of things, I liked this show as well as several of those who decided to slip it into a bottom 3 spot on their ballot. Worth watching if you're looking for something on the lighter side of things.

#4: Nisemonogatari

The next entry in the -monogatari series, originally written by the weird NisiOisiN and adapted for the small screen by the infamous duo of Shaft Studios and Akiyuki Shinbo. As much as I usually like ShaftxShinbo adaptations, honestly, I thought the creepy factor was ramped up a bit too much with the incestuous undertones and the molestation in the first couple episodes and I didn't finish this series. Others in this community thought differently about this show, that's all I can say without putting words in anyone's mouth.

#3: Fate/Zero (Season 2)

It is my regret that I haven't seen more than a few episodes of this series so far (it's in my backlog, okay?). A story of seven legendary fighters serving seven different mages to obtain a Holy Grail that will give them immense power. Being the prequel to Type-Moon's acclaimed visual novel series Fate/Stay Night, there's quite a bit of screentime that just shows people talking to each other in lengthy diatribes about one aspect or another of the story's universe, but when the Servants get involved that's when things get interesting.

#2: Hyouka

In both weighted and unweighted votes this one was so close with Fate/Zero, but it beat Fate by 1 in the weighted department so Hyouka is #2.

What is this show about? I heard it described as a group of four students form their own mystery-solving club. Kind of like Scooby-Doo's Mystery Machine, minus the stoner and the talking dog and the old guys in masks who are always the culprits. Take that how you will, because I have not seen this show yet.

#1: Danshi Koukousei no Nichijou ("Daily Lives of Highschool Boys")

When this show appeared at the beginning of 2012, no one expected much to come of it. All we had was the description, and we thought it was just going to be "K-ON with dudes." Oh how wrong we were.

Take the hilarious source material by Yasunobu Yamauchi that draws from realistic events in the lives of high school boys, sprinkle in the Director and several voice actors from the Gintama anime adaptation (which you should also watch), and you have a Japanese comedy that for once doesn't rely solely on the manzai routine of "Person A says something stupid in a flat tone, Person B overreacts." Some of these jokes actually broke through the language barrier and you could relate to them, doing stupid shit that seemed cool at the time you were younger (and if you didn't, I feel sorry for you).

The best part of the show? The Funky Highschool Girls. The possibly-psychotic Yuu Kobayashi really shines as she voices the hot-blooded Yanagin in her short but sweet appearances in this series.

Though there won't be a second season due to the manga-ka deciding to stop writing this series, the adaptation we did get is amazing, and worthy of the #1 anime of 2012 among those who deigned to cast a vote for it.

Thank you all for reading this. Shows 2-5 can be found for free (legally!) in Crunchyroll if you wish to view them for yourself. Feel free to tell me how right I am in comments below. Or complain that your show wasn't picked. Or tell me to make a seperate poll thread next time because I am a dumbface that should have thought of that instead of study for finals at the time I started it in the anime thread. Or whatever else comes to mind.

Unweighted:

Accel World -- 1 Acchi Kocchi -- 1 Another -- 1 Aquarion EVOL -- 1 Bakuman -- 1 Binbougami-ga! -- 3 BRS -- 3 Bodacious Space Pirates -- 4 Btoom! -- 1 Chihayafuru -- 2 Chu-2 Koi -- 3 Daily Lives -- 10 Fate/Zero -- 7 From the New World -- 1 Haiyore! Nyaruko -- 1 Hayate Butler -- 1 Hidamari Sketch x Honeycomb -- 1 Horizon S2 -- 1 HxH -- 2 Hyouka -- 7 Humanity has Declined -- 2 Jojo -- 4 Jormungand -- 2 Kids on the Slope -- 4 Kokoro Connect -- 1 Lupin 3rd -- 1 Magi -- 1 Medaka Box -- 1 Mirai Nikki -- 2 My Little Monster -- 6 Mysterious Girlfriend X -- 1 Nekomonogatari Kuro -- 1 Nisemonogatari -- 6 P4 Animation -- 1 Psycho-Pass -- 3 Rinne Lagrange -- 2 Robotics Notes -- 2 Saint Seiya Omega -- 1 Sakurasou -- 2 Smile Pretty Cure -- 1 Space Bros -- 1 Sukitte -- 1 SAO -- 4 Tsuritama -- 3 Waiting in the Summer -- 1 YuruYuri S2 -- 1

Weighted:

Accel World -- 1 Acchi Kocchi -- 3 Another -- 1 Aquarion EVOL -- 1 Bakuman -- 4 Binbougami-ga! -- 4 BRS -- 13 Bodacious Space Pirates -- 14 Btoom! -- 3 Chihayafuru -- 6 Chu-2 Koi -- 9 Daily Lives -- 39 Fate/Zero -- 28 From the New World -- 3 Haiyore! Nyaruko -- 2 Hayate Butler -- 3 Hidamari Sketch x Honeycomb-- 5 Horizon S2 -- 4 HxH -- 7 Hyouka -- 29 Humanity has Declined -- 8 Jojo -- 18 Jormungand -- 6 Kids on the Slope -- 11 Kokoro Connect -- 1 Lupin 3rd -- 1 Magi -- 1 Medaka Box -- 5 Mirai Nikki -- 5 Mysterious Girlfriend X -- 3 My Little Monster -- 14 Nekomonogatari Kuro -- 5 Nisemonogatari -- 19 P4 Animation -- 5 Psycho-Pass -- 6 Rinne Lagrange -- 3 Robotics Notes -- 5 Saint Seiya Omega -- 2 Sakurasou -- 3 Smile Pretty Cure -- 2 Space Bros -- 4 Sukitte -- 3 SAO -- 5 Tsuritama -- 12 Waiting in the Summer -- 1 YuruYuri S2 -- 3

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First off, I want to say thank you to all 25 of you in the thread that voted. I probably should've made this poll a separate topic. Maybe next year, but at least we got a decent sample of the regulars to the General Anime Thread in the Giant Bomb forums. I have tallied the votes and come up with both weighted and unweighted totals. I will post the full vote totals at the end of this blog post. Before I announce the winners, I'd like to pay tribute to a few that were ineligible.

Honorable Mentions

  • Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica: There were a couple of Madoka movies that came out in 2012, but the voter did not specify which one, so this one is ineligible. Even so, for those who have not already seen the show, I encourage you to do so at your earliest convenience. It is that amazing.
  • Asura's Wrath: Technically a video game but as a throwaway vote it's a pretty good one. Pretty much like a playable Dragonball Z, and it's probably cheap to buy now if you're curious.
  • Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2012): Not a Japanese anime, though it is animated. Also, I didn't know they made another one until I saw this one pop up on a ballot.
  • TRON Uprising: See above.

Okay, I've gotten those out of the way. Now to announce the Top 5 Winners! Winners were ranked first by unweighted vote, and ties were broken by weighted score. Save your inevitable arguments over my vote-counting methods in this unofficial poll for later.

#5: Tonari no Kaibutsu-kun ("My Little Monster")

A story about a girl. And a boy. And a chicken. And a weird girl. And some bullies. And another guy. And another girl. Light-hearted high school romance ensues. Even if it tilts more on the shoujo side of things, I liked this show as well as several of those who decided to slip it into a bottom 3 spot on their ballot. Worth watching if you're looking for something on the lighter side of things.

#4: Nisemonogatari

The next entry in the -monogatari series, originally written by the weird NisiOisiN and adapted for the small screen by the infamous duo of Shaft Studios and Akiyuki Shinbo. As much as I usually like ShaftxShinbo adaptations, honestly, I thought the creepy factor was ramped up a bit too much with the incestuous undertones and the molestation in the first couple episodes and I didn't finish this series. Others in this community thought differently about this show, that's all I can say without putting words in anyone's mouth.

#3: Fate/Zero (Season 2)

It is my regret that I haven't seen more than a few episodes of this series so far (it's in my backlog, okay?). A story of seven legendary fighters serving seven different mages to obtain a Holy Grail that will give them immense power. Being the prequel to Type-Moon's acclaimed visual novel series Fate/Stay Night, there's quite a bit of screentime that just shows people talking to each other in lengthy diatribes about one aspect or another of the story's universe, but when the Servants get involved that's when things get interesting.

#2: Hyouka

In both weighted and unweighted votes this one was so close with Fate/Zero, but it beat Fate by 1 in the weighted department so Hyouka is #2.

What is this show about? I heard it described as a group of four students form their own mystery-solving club. Kind of like Scooby-Doo's Mystery Machine, minus the stoner and the talking dog and the old guys in masks who are always the culprits. Take that how you will, because I have not seen this show yet.

#1: Danshi Koukousei no Nichijou ("Daily Lives of Highschool Boys")

When this show appeared at the beginning of 2012, no one expected much to come of it. All we had was the description, and we thought it was just going to be "K-ON with dudes." Oh how wrong we were.

Take the hilarious source material by Yasunobu Yamauchi that draws from realistic events in the lives of high school boys, sprinkle in the Director and several voice actors from the Gintama anime adaptation (which you should also watch), and you have a Japanese comedy that for once doesn't rely solely on the manzai routine of "Person A says something stupid in a flat tone, Person B overreacts." Some of these jokes actually broke through the language barrier and you could relate to them, doing stupid shit that seemed cool at the time you were younger (and if you didn't, I feel sorry for you).

The best part of the show? The Funky Highschool Girls. The possibly-psychotic Yuu Kobayashi really shines as she voices the hot-blooded Yanagin in her short but sweet appearances in this series.

Though there won't be a second season due to the manga-ka deciding to stop writing this series, the adaptation we did get is amazing, and worthy of the #1 anime of 2012 among those who deigned to cast a vote for it.

Thank you all for reading this. Shows 2-5 can be found for free (legally!) in Crunchyroll if you wish to view them for yourself. Feel free to tell me how right I am in comments below. Or complain that your show wasn't picked. Or tell me to make a seperate poll thread next time because I am a dumbface that should have thought of that instead of study for finals at the time I started it in the anime thread. Or whatever else comes to mind.

Unweighted:

Accel World -- 1 Acchi Kocchi -- 1 Another -- 1 Aquarion EVOL -- 1 Bakuman -- 1 Binbougami-ga! -- 3 BRS -- 3 Bodacious Space Pirates -- 4 Btoom! -- 1 Chihayafuru -- 2 Chu-2 Koi -- 3 Daily Lives -- 10 Fate/Zero -- 7 From the New World -- 1 Haiyore! Nyaruko -- 1 Hayate Butler -- 1 Hidamari Sketch x Honeycomb -- 1 Horizon S2 -- 1 HxH -- 2 Hyouka -- 7 Humanity has Declined -- 2 Jojo -- 4 Jormungand -- 2 Kids on the Slope -- 4 Kokoro Connect -- 1 Lupin 3rd -- 1 Magi -- 1 Medaka Box -- 1 Mirai Nikki -- 2 My Little Monster -- 6 Mysterious Girlfriend X -- 1 Nekomonogatari Kuro -- 1 Nisemonogatari -- 6 P4 Animation -- 1 Psycho-Pass -- 3 Rinne Lagrange -- 2 Robotics Notes -- 2 Saint Seiya Omega -- 1 Sakurasou -- 2 Smile Pretty Cure -- 1 Space Bros -- 1 Sukitte -- 1 SAO -- 4 Tsuritama -- 3 Waiting in the Summer -- 1 YuruYuri S2 -- 1

Weighted:

Accel World -- 1 Acchi Kocchi -- 3 Another -- 1 Aquarion EVOL -- 1 Bakuman -- 4 Binbougami-ga! -- 4 BRS -- 13 Bodacious Space Pirates -- 14 Btoom! -- 3 Chihayafuru -- 6 Chu-2 Koi -- 9 Daily Lives -- 39 Fate/Zero -- 28 From the New World -- 3 Haiyore! Nyaruko -- 2 Hayate Butler -- 3 Hidamari Sketch x Honeycomb-- 5 Horizon S2 -- 4 HxH -- 7 Hyouka -- 29 Humanity has Declined -- 8 Jojo -- 18 Jormungand -- 6 Kids on the Slope -- 11 Kokoro Connect -- 1 Lupin 3rd -- 1 Magi -- 1 Medaka Box -- 5 Mirai Nikki -- 5 Mysterious Girlfriend X -- 3 My Little Monster -- 14 Nekomonogatari Kuro -- 5 Nisemonogatari -- 19 P4 Animation -- 5 Psycho-Pass -- 6 Rinne Lagrange -- 3 Robotics Notes -- 5 Saint Seiya Omega -- 2 Sakurasou -- 3 Smile Pretty Cure -- 2 Space Bros -- 4 Sukitte -- 3 SAO -- 5 Tsuritama -- 12 Waiting in the Summer -- 1 YuruYuri S2 -- 3

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Seriously? Nisemonogatari made the cut? Christ.

I didn't finish it, and while I never said this in the blog, I said something like it, and that's what matters.

(There's no quote button from your blog page.) Trust me: you're not missing anything. *goes off to delete that video from YouTube history*

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#1 and #2 are the greatest! (I think they may have even been my #1 and #2 but it's been a while and I have forgotten where I placed things).

Similar problems with #4 and I didn't watch #3.

Honestly surprised at #5, I watched a few episodes and the male lead was a bunch of hot garbage. Couldn't stand him. Made the show unwatchable for me.

Pretty cool what you did with this. Hopefully we will do it again.

Edit: ahahah, laughing so hard at the Daily Lives video. "Why won't you die?!" is the best way to start a conversation with someone.

This makes me even more bummed to hear that it won't be continuing :(

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@Video_Game_King: Uh, who are you quoting?

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You. I was the first comment, so there was nobody else to quote. Besides,

(There's no quote button from your blog page.)

should have been a clue.

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@Video_Game_King: You liked Bakemonogatari right? Nekomonogatari is more of that.

Also, Fuck Hyouka.

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and just to post it in this topic, y'all are suckaz for not liking bodacious space pirates, best anime since steins;gate imo (I've only rated 3 anime 10 on MAL; steins;gate, bodacious and FMA:B)

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@Bocam:

You mean no toothbrush videos with "date rape" in the related videos section and there's no way I'm making that shit up?

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@Animasta: The only good thing that I've seen of Bodacious Space Pirates is the opening song.

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@Bocam said:

@Animasta: The only good thing that I've seen of Bodacious Space Pirates is the opening song.

how far did you make it?

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@Video_Game_King: Nope, there's none of that. (they actually took out the more risque scenes that the novel had.)

@Animasta: The third or forth episode.

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@Bocam:

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@Video_Game_King: I'm not sure whether that's good or bad.

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@Bocam:

Then my mission is complete.

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@Bocam said:

@Video_Game_King: Nope, there's none of that. (they actually took out the more risque scenes that the novel had.)

@Animasta: The third or forth episode.

bah, you missed the conclusion of that arc/LN D: What turned you off exactly?

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@Animasta: If I don't finish a show and let it sit a couple of days, I'll never go back to it. I remember not liking Marika's voice actor and it being boring as hell.

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I've never heard of any of these shows. Well, I vaguely know what a Stay Night is, so I'm assuming Fate/Zero is related to that?

I'mma just keep rewatching old anime until Gainax does something that isn't Eva OVAs. The newest thing I think I paid attention to is either Nyan Koi or Stein's Gate.

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Not only did I completely miss this, but Jojo's didn't make it? Not cool.

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I loved My Little Monster...watched all the episodes in one night. Definitely deserves a spot in the top 5.

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Whew, looks like I'm not missing much at all by not keeping up with anime. I'll go back to doing more of that.

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Obligatory "All your tastes are shit". That is all.

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@Colourful_Hippie said:

Whew, looks like I'm not missing much at all by not keeping up with anime. I'll go back to doing more of that.

This show is on going. You're missing a lot.

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@FluxWaveZ said:

Not only did I completely miss this, but Jojo's didn't make it? Not cool.

pretty sure it's only like 2 people who rave about Jojo's and mention it all the time (mezmero and rubberluffy) so...

also it's not done, and I'm fairly certain the first arc or whatever was the bad one (this is what everyone said to me)

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That video from

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@Mendelson9 said:

I'll take that as a recommendation.

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@Turambar said:

@Colourful_Hippie said:

Whew, looks like I'm not missing much at all by not keeping up with anime. I'll go back to doing more of that.

This show is on going. You're missing a lot.

Looks inoffensive but not my kind of thing.

This is probably the only thing that will interest me enough to try something new again.

@Mendelson9: Go watch FMA: Brotherhood. I used to be a big fan of the original but Brotherhood is a lot better.

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So the only one I've seen on this list is Nisemonogatari. I don't know how I feel about it.

Nise wasn't that bad, though! Not as good as Bakemonogatari, and the whole incest thing was weird and offputting, but it was still decent! Where's when you need him?

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@RPGee said:

Nise wasn't that bad, though! Not as good as Bakemonogatari, and the whole incest thing was weird and offputting, but it was still decent! Where's when you need him?

You have summoned me!

Also, I'm all the way satisfied with this list! Even if I don't like number 1 that much, you guys could've done a lot worse!

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I'm surprised to see My Little Monster make the top 5, though I enjoyed it I didn't place it in my top 5.

Also I restricted my self to shows that finished airing in 2012

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@DocHaus: Wait, Hyouka is on Crunchyroll? I can't seem to find it. (and I have a membership)

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@Turambar said:

Obligatory "All your tastes are shit". That is all.

I'm with you! You guys suck!

I don't think i actually finished any of those series...

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@DocHaus: Wait, Hyouka is on Crunchyroll? I can't seem to find it. (and I have a membership)

Hyouka is not on any kind of streaming service, sadly. : (

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@Cloudenvy said:

@TruthTellah said:

@DocHaus: Wait, Hyouka is on Crunchyroll? I can't seem to find it. (and I have a membership)

Hyouka is not on any kind of streaming service, sadly. : (

I have been deceived! ;_;

Do they -want- people to use unlicensed streams? It's nuts. I want to pay for this stuff, but if I have no wait to do so...

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@TruthTellah said:

@Cloudenvy said:

@TruthTellah said:

@DocHaus: Wait, Hyouka is on Crunchyroll? I can't seem to find it. (and I have a membership)

Hyouka is not on any kind of streaming service, sadly. : (

I have been deceived! ;_;

Do they -want- people to use unlicensed streams? It's nuts. I want to pay for this stuff, but if I have no wait to do so...

I ask myself the same question all the time. At least it's gotten a lot better, even if the standard isn't what it needs to be.

While fixing simulcasting, it'd be nice if Aniplex realized that most people don't want to pay $600 for a 26 episode show in the process.

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@Cloudenvy said:

@TruthTellah said:

@Cloudenvy said:

@TruthTellah said:

@DocHaus: Wait, Hyouka is on Crunchyroll? I can't seem to find it. (and I have a membership)

Hyouka is not on any kind of streaming service, sadly. : (

I have been deceived! ;_;

Do they -want- people to use unlicensed streams? It's nuts. I want to pay for this stuff, but if I have no wait to do so...

I ask myself the same question all the time. At least it's gotten a lot better, even if the standard isn't what it needs to be.

While fixing simulcasting, it'd be nice if Aniplex realized that most people don't want to pay $600 for a 26 episode show in the process.

Oh gosh, yeah. I used to buy DVDs, but ever since the introduction of Blu-ray and as anime has somewhat struggled, they have taken the prices from meh to are you kidding me? Streaming is basically my only feasible option now despite -wanting- anime. And with streaming, while it has come far, it still hurts that some titles just don't get end up streamed, encouraging unlicensed releases that I'd rather not rely on.

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Hyouka at #2? All is right with the world.

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Two of my 5 made the list so I'm happy enough and Tonari no Kaibutsu-kun would have if I had seen it within the voting period. I haven't seen the other two Top-5 recipients.

I'm a bit surprised that The Daily Lives of High Schoolboys scored so high since it doesn't come up in conversation all that much over in the anime thread. On the other hand, I would have thought that Nisemonogatari would have placed higher since that franchise is always a topic of conversations.

Looking at the weighted and unweighted tab, there's a pretty good mix of shows covering the entire year. I think that's good since some similar polls seem to forget shows more than three months old.

This was fun, I hope to participate next year. Something like this would have been good for the GB Forum Game of the Year.

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I have to admit more than half my list made it to the Honorable Mentions lol. Forgive me for being cheeky with my votes but this wouldn't be Giant Bomb without a little cheekiness. I genuinely love what TMNT is doing more than 90 percent of the anime coming out though a lot of it comes from nostalgia. Also Nolan North is in it for crying out loud. Frankly I'm surprised Saint Seiya Omega got any votes. I love the old series but I couldn't stomach it passed the first 2 episodes. JoJo wins 2012's 1988 anime of the year hands down. Get back JoJo.

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I suppose I just don't "get" the Monogatari series. I watched until episode 10 in Bake and the whole thing was just a chore. The visuals are nice, that's all I've got really.
What makes Nise get a #4 position?

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I'm okay with this list. Stilll haven't watched Fate/Zero, but everything else was in a good fit and in the right order. :D

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Yeah, Hyouka and Fate/Zero! I've heard good things about the #1, maybe I should check it out. My personal #1 last year was Another. And I don't even like horror.

I'm watching Bakemonogatari right now and it's good but not the revelation that I've seen it made out to be. It's kind of an effort to watch too, not that that's necessarily a bad thing but between trying to concentrate on the sometimes nonsensical dialogue and the almost subliminal visuals, it sometimes takes its toll on me.

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This is an alright list, although I still didn't watched the second season of Fate/Zero, but eh.

@TobbRobb said:

I'm okay with this list. Stilll haven't watched Fate/Zero, but everything else was in a good fit and in the right order. :D

We are like soulmates or something.

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@AlexanderSheen: MAL compatibility is LAW! :D

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No Nichijou? You guys are the real monsters.

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@TobbRobb: Oh, about that. Recently I discovered that while we have a 83.8% compatibility, me and have a 91.6% compatibility.

But that doesn't matter, you are the only one for me!

...

Maybe I should have worded that differently.

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@Ravenlight: 2011. It has the show that some people refer to as "Nichibros" at #1 though. So there is that.

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No Skanks and Tanks? :((((

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@AlexanderSheen: I have 91.4% with her. How did that even happen, it was 0 earlier.

Oh well, considering those circumstances I can't really say anything about cheating on me. XD

Alex x Tobb <3

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@SuperWristBands said:

@Ravenlight: 2011. It has the show that some people refer to as "Nichibros" at #1 though. So there is that.

Gah! Reading comprehension critical failure!

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Woo, NichiBros. This list is now valid.