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#1  Edited By edsone

@hakunin: can't argue with that! However the european, which I own, managed to be even worse. Even the title.

Videogames need more Duckburg!

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Several ports, Legacy of Kain titles and Shenmue 3. That's all I can remember know but there's probably more.

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For your needs I'd say Professor Layton, Animal Crossing, Pushmo, Crashmo, Animal Crossing, Donkey Kong Returns (I guess, haven't played on 3DS), Youkai Watch 1 & 2 (not released yet in the west but works well comutting), Pokémon etc. There're probably many others but I don't own too many 3DS games to know.

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@amafi: maybe just used to VF or the character is just not for you. I don't like him by the way :P

The way I see the depth in VF always meant I needed to learn much more in order to be really competitive. I guess in 5 hours you know a few things but there're so many strings (it's a 3D fighter after all) that can be overwhelming. Usually better if you focus on a few things at first. In SF you sort of have full knowledge of all the character's moves and work from there so you don't feel so lost. I guess the small movelist helps that in SF. At first you can focus on normals, movement and so on before worrying about other mechanics. But that's assuming the person doesn't know much about fighting games. I think that if someone's new to VF things like fuzzy guard are not important. You'll get to it eventually since for most fighting you won't be competitive for at least a couple dozen hours.

In my experience SF games you can, if dedicated enough, play okay with most characters (maybe not so much now with the current amount of characters). I find it pretty much impossible to do the same in a VF game.

That said I find SFIV a bit convoluted in terms of mechanics compared when compared to the simplicity of SFIII and SFII and that disappointed me. I don't think I'll be even buying ultra.

Maybe SF starts easy but then the learning curve gets steep whereas VF you advance more steadily. Don't know really.

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@amafi said:

@pandabear said:

Virtua Fighter. Of course. Maybe 5?

VF5:FS is way easier to jump into than Street Fighter 4.

It has half the buttons and it's got a much better training mode.

Personally I think the hardest one out right now that I've put any time into is KoF13. The fact that you have 4 jumps, no shortcuts for motions like in SF, it's just really execution heavy.

I don't play anime fighters like BB, melty blood or GG though, so can't really speak on those.

Not true. Being a big fighting game fan I've been playing both series since the 90s and Street Fighter is more pick up and play than VF will ever be. That is also good and works in its favour. It can retain complexity and have a lot of accessibility. No wonder it's still so popular. Number of buttons is pretty irrelevant here. Street Fighter is a lot more simplistic in terms of mechanics compared do VF as most 2d games are. Is a lot more character driven, matchup focused game too. VF it's a bit more player driven, with a lot of people playing the same character pretty differently. It's very, very technical and the chances you're going to cause experienced player any trouble is very slim compared to any Street Fighter game. It's also not only the inputs, it's also more tactical and I dare say more depth too.

It's not even the most complex 2d fighting game with arc sys games especially been very complex if a tad convoluted at times. GG and BB are both more complex than SF.

However complexity in itself is not important. I feel that a good fighter, for my tastes, needs accessibility in terms of commands, interesting mechanics, depth without resorting to unnecessary and confusing mechanics, good balance, good community, diversity in the roster, characters fun to play among few other things. Obviously not all will offer that but can still great and fun to play.

One of my favourites is 3rd Strike for instance but the balance aspect could be a bit better.

Hardest game list I don't much for but here goes my favourites. No order besides the first in each category:

2D:

  • Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike
  • Blazblue
  • Persona 4 Arena
  • Mortal Kombat 9

3D:

  • Virtua Fighter 5 FS
  • Soul Calibur 2
  • Dead or Alive 5 Ultimate
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@xcharliesheen: they are very different games. Even though I enjoyed TWD more TLOU is a very good game and I can see why many prefer that title. Overrated? Every popular game is. Like Dark Souls and Persona 4 on GiantBomb despite loving both games.

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@fredchuckdave: Pretty good generation if you ask me. Took a while to get going but when it did we got plenty of quality titles. Better for some genres than others though.

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Vinyls can be interesting to collect indeed :P

However it's important to remember that Vinyl quality is not necessarily higher than CD (and vice versa). Someone also mentioned something about finding internet files with higher quality than it's respective cd printings... That's rubbish. You can only get as good as.

That' said I'm not to big on physical media even though I have a lot of collections. I like to have everything with me when a travel. It's a shame most big companies don't offer lossless download. :(