Gaidren

Oh cool, good to know! Thanks.

The wiki says she starts with 2 hearts and only 1 damage, which sounds *awful*, but I have no idea what items she gets/starts with and what they do. Comments? Is she inferior to Cain/Maggy? I'm assuming she has to be worse than Isaac with a D6, but I haven't unlocked the D6 yet.

With the game now extending after the 10th Mom kill (the same kill which unlocks ???), do you now have to kill Satan with ??? to unlock the D6 if you haven't already? If so, ugh.....guess I should have been working on that before the update. 8 mom kills at the moment.

I just finished the game with Maggie for the second time....I've only gotten one kill with Cain despite using him more. I managed to finish with Maggie despite having garbage speed (found the Belt but was offset by Speed Down pill and Small Rock).

Maggie has grown on me. There are a ton of Speed Up items in the game, and it only takes a couple of them for her to really shine. I also like that she has the flexibility to do a deal with the devil early if he's offering something super useful. I still feel Cain is the best (pre-Isaac D6), but Maggie isn't as far behind as I once thought.

@Gaidren:Update: First Mom's Heart kill after 38 deaths. Did it with Maggie and the Book of Revelations/Battery combo. Is it just me or does she seem to find the BoR more often than others? I've only played Maggie a handful of times and she's found the BoR like half of the games. Maggie is growing on me....most games you encounter enough Speed Up items to make her usable late game, and the 2 extra hearts over Cain aren't trivial if you hit a 1-Up along the way or a Full Health pill. I'm still leaning towards saying Cain is probably better overall, but it is closer than I thought it was initially.

@NekuSakuraba said:

@BeachThunder said:

@NekuSakuraba said:

I DID IT, I BEAT MOM FOR THE FIRST TIME!!! :D

Yay, now beat the real final boss :P

Done, on the first try! :D

I used the shovel to pass Depths 2 and went into the womb for the first time, did I miss a cut scene or anything?

Yeah, you missed the epilogue. The game is *supposed* to end when you beat Mom for the first time on Depths 2, and you don't get to try the Womb until next game. Interesting that you bypassed that with the shovel and did "True Mom" without killing the Depths version first, nice!

My first Depths Mom kill just came at attempt #18.

Here's how crazy good my luck was on that:

Halo of Flies, Lasers, Number One and Chocolate Milk to allow for super fast/chargeable lasers, skeleton key followed by Bombs Are Key for unlimited bombs, tons of heart containers AND a dollar (unlocked Mag and Cain in the same game), AND a 1-Up that I never. Even. Used. Boo-ya! Also had crazy amounts of run speed.

The only thing I was lacking some form of crossing gaps and some type of good space bar item (all I had was the useless teleporter).

I still suck at a lot of the Caves/Depths bosses, but with 90+ bombs you can brute force damn near anything.

Can't wait to see The Womb!