This looks amazing, but I'm probably gonna punt on it because I've been playing FH4 nonstop since 2018. Got every achievement and got 100% on every Monthly Playlist since they first introduced it back in 2019.
The Playlists are great because they scratched that part of my brain that thought about all the meta ways I played Mario Kart 64 when I was a kid, but throw in car ratings, brands, the country of origin, series of vehicles, the decade they came out in, and the style of race to take them through and you end up with almost endless amounts of metas. It's awesome, but I'm pooped. haha
Will check out Forza Horizon 5 down the line one day, but I need a break. I can feel the sunsetting of FH4 in my bones though so just gonna take the space here and give a big thank you to Forza Horizon 4. It sure helped me get into that meditative headspace, and it's probably why FH4 is my most favorite game ever, but screw racing against Offroad Buggies at Unbeatable difficulty. They're cheap as hell. lol
The "nothing offends me" crowd in here really seem proud to let you know it like it's some badge of honor lol.
It is though. I don't get it how you could be offended by this shit. I mean how weak are you (and I mean people and not specifally you). How are you coping with life if you can't see offensive material in a videogame. How can you even interact with other human beings. Grow a pair god damn it.
There's too many people of many different creeds right now interacting with dying human beings and you're out here thinking that sitting around and stuffing your mouth with Doritos while watching hours of offensive garbage on LiveLeak just to prove that you can't get phased is a case for growing a pair? Here's to hoping you find empathy and that the road there is paved with as little pain as possible.
And I think part of holding people accountable is being specific about what you're holding them accountable for.
Let me try then along with answering the OP's question which was "have you found anything offensive".
Yes. It is the grossly stereotypical depictions of everything that isn't white male cisgender, and CD Projekt should be held responsible for the thoughtless lore misuse of a franchise that has sold more than 13 million (13,000,000) copies which will most likely cultivate another home for people to act as insensible, complacent, and vicious as they want with regards to race, ethnicity, gender, gender identity, and class.
It's not cohesive, not really exploring anything other than "Nazis are bad and right-wing America isn't all that different".
And it's that easy. The powers that be at Activision didn't have the guts to take such an easy stance literally the week after release of Wolfenstein II. CoD: WWII built an entire campaign with the message of "well, we're all just soldiers, and a good one follows orders" and ever since then they've been weirdly rehabilitating US history by putting the Highway of Death massacre in CoD: Modern Warfare and calling it an act by Russian forces. This year we got CoD: Black Ops Cold War where we're treated to the visage of Reagan like he's Jolly Ol' St. Nick. The message should be that easy, but you shouldn't be complacent about the message because that's what leads to the scum getting bold and running over people that are crying for basic human rights.
@bigsocrates above summarized the themes of the Cyberpunk genre. CDPR should know of the verbal bombs at play here. They even trotted Mike Pondsmith out to say that they were gonna take the franchise and subject matters seriously, but instead we got CDPR Twitter making mockery of gender identity all while management snoozes. Not even a slap on the wrist. Sorry for looking at it that way, but it's not hard to imagine the game as nothing but a juvenile little playground for their pathetic views on people. They earned this view. They made Witcher 3. They proved they had the chops, but I guess we're all settling on Keanu, right?
@theoracleofgame: Oh it's both alright, but I'm gonna put my foot down and do what the OP did and focus on the offensive part before it gets swept under the rug because "remember the bugs"?!
Just to be clear, I can already feel this forum devolving into an out where readers can say "well it's just lazy then". This game is offensive. If you can't be offended by this game then you have absolutely zero regard for people and zero imagination about where life can take you. I love video games, but ignoring the horrendous drivel they want to pass as "jokes" just to pay $60 to play an okay game when it's running on all cylinders is the most moronic thing people can do with their lives right now. Fuck this game. Do better.
I dunno, I think we can have good games that also fuck up.
Definitely. Art in general. I love and adore Blade Runner to death, but I absolute think that the writers at the time had a very weird and messed up idea on how people fall in love.
Cyberpunk 2077 unfortunately leaves me with this question; did they take 8 years to make some weird outlet for their "trigger the libs" jokes? Because I can listen to one episode of Joe Rogan and get that in one hour versus waiting 8 years and actively contributing 50 hours of my life.
Eh, I don't get this vibe at all though.
I think that the game is careless and often very tone deaf towards its issue, but not malicious in this manner.
But the thing is that if I have that question, and you have a different interpretation, then the writers did a lazy job in leaving it to the players to decide what their intent was. Still though, it bums me out that careless and tone deaf is the height in this game. I have heard that the story does come with a couple of nuggets of hope, but put your hand in an open flame and I guess it doesn't hurt after 20 hours?
Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus was filled to the brim with the most offensive material I could imagine. What makes it so easy for me to go back to it was the developers and writers took the stand to identify it, show the player who did it (Nazi, Nazi-apologists, I mean yeah), and tell you to stand up against the monstrosity. Genres are so spineless these days because they want to sell a red lightsaber to the dopes that make the third "Empire was right" forum post for the week, or a collectable Infinity Gauntlet to the "Thanos did nothing wrong" crowd.
Cyberpunk 2077 sounds exhausting to me. Just another game where they blast ableist, transphobic, and eye-rolling cultural stereotypical language. The most disappointing thing that kneecapped this game, in the 8 years where they had this game in mind, was that they never took the time and responsibility to write something that pushes back against that language. Call me an old man, but I'm tired of having people talk to me about how the new South Park season is good. I get it. Cartman called Kyle a Jew.
No one talks about The New Colossus because it's message was clear; you need to be anti-racist. There isn't a multitude of forums dissecting the language unlike the new Star Wars trilogy where everyone is trying to find an out for Kylo Ren because "yeah, he took part in committing genocide of an entire star system, but ReyLo". You don't get the duplicate forums when you have a game that stands the hell up, becomes political, and puts it's foot down with it's message. No one is perfect though and I will bring expectations with the next Wolfenstein game. Entities change.
Cyberpunk 2077 unfortunately leaves me with this question; did they take 8 years to make some weird outlet for their "trigger the libs" jokes? Because I can listen to one episode of Joe Rogan and get that in one hour versus waiting 8 years and actively contributing 50 hours of my life.
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