IrrationalBee

@brodehouse: Let me start by again stating that I am not saying anyones pain is any else than another persons who went through the same thing, that is not the case and I haven't argued that. What I have argued is that due to the overwhelmingly xenophobic attitude that our society has, that minority groups are much more likely to have these things happen to them, because they are different. I don't think any group is evil or less entitled to have justice or get attention for what happened, but when it comes to some sort of combined effort between people the reason you have groups like the LGBT that are so much more prevalent than any mens rights activist group is because men are not victimized for being men anywhere near in the numbers that other groups see.

"says a study by the men's rights campaign group Parity." Yeah, They probably wouldn't be biased AT ALL! Please get a better source.

You're missing the point here, the reason is not because you yourself do not, it is because if you were to take a sample of men and then another of trans-women, the number of cases of things like rape, sexual abuse, drug abuse, and domestic abuse are going to be way higher than in the sample of men. It is considered more common for us. It doesn't make what happened to you less of a problem, it's just an isolated case and can't have the same amount of time and energy into due to its rarity.

@video_game_king: Yes there are, but they vary in intensity. Trust me, I could go into some sad stories but I don't feel like that would be useful input. I also did just consider he was straight, sorry for making that assumption. Also economic class can be pretty bad as well, just because its inherently shitty.

@darji said:

The Reason your Anecdote doesn't matter is because you as a white man are not systematically oppressed like we who belong to a real minority group. I can't even get a job in my town because of the fact I am transsexual, and this is going to be the case in a large number of places, not just a single classroom.

@animasta: If you went into a room full of a bunch of different people, and told them "I hate you all" and then pointed to one person and said "And you look Jewish" people are going to take note of why you pointed that one out and try to piece together a connection. It's the same thing, but instead of it being hate, it's needlessly pointing out a certain group of "Victims" and making them seem different than the rest.

@evilsbane: It's funny, because it's a thread about being able to take a joke, and you can't seem to!

@patrickklepek: I understand that you did something extremely minor, but it is when you give this bad joke attention you set a certain attitude, that these jokes are somehow inherently less funny and more offensive than the other ones. You give it more power when you specifically reference, or even acknowledge it after saying his entire set was shitty. The best thing to do would have just been to ignore the fact that one joke happened to be pointed at a particular people. It just gives off the feeling that we are an easier target, and instills in many of your younger followers minds that trans people as a whole are somehow different from the other people he made fun of.

@patrickklepek: While I agree with you that the vast majority of these jokes are unfunny, I don't think any of them were truly offensive or meant to be, all it does its marginalize us when it is pointed out when a joke about us is made, instead of just lumping them in with the rest. That is by definition singling us out, and it is unneeded in this case. Joel McHale isn't a rapist yeah? He didn't go into trans peoples houses and beat them up, right? Hell, did he even use the word Tranny? Or Imply there was something bad about being trans? No, He said something about a character getting a sex change. It's just not truly trans-phobic in anyway, and to crucify someone like their a Nazi Gallagher is both unfair to them, and the trans community. If you want to help, then instead of saying how you feel about it on twitter or expressing your own outrage for a group that "collectively, a smaller and weaker voice", instead give one of us the platform to express how we feel about it yeah?

@towersixteen: I understand that all my evidence is anecdotal, but I've got a pretty good number of those cases to back me up, including my own. I was living it for about 6 years, and when the kids I'm trying to help bring up stuff like its a rough reality check for them that once they go full time their lives are gonna become, comparatively, living hells.