@fifichiapet said:
@laivasse: Method acting refers to those who refuse to "break" character when the director calls "Cut."
That's not really definitive. To quote wikipedia (although the quote is currently unsourced) "Method actors are often characterised as immersing themselves in their characters to the extent that they continue to portray them even offstage or off-camera for the duration of a project. However, this is a popular misconception. While some actors have employed this approach, it is generally not taught as part of the Method."
I might have been mistaken with McKellen, but it boils down to his psychological approach when inhabiting a character. I strongly agree with what you're saying with "ultimately, if you can tell if an actor is method or not by his performance, his performance probably isn't very good."
@thomasnash said:
Charles Dance, Ben Kinglsey and Robert Carlyle aren't known as method actors, are they?
But you do make a salient point, which I elided in my original post because it was running very long. As I said, I think bad scripts and bad directors are far more often the cause of poor performances than poor acting - you only have to see a couple of truly bad actors to realise this.
However, to a certain extent I feel like you're proving my point? If we're so mesmerised by Pacino that all we require of him is that he turns up and is Pacino, sure that doesn't make him a bad actor, but it's not a great precedent to set. For starters it priveleges the actor over the role in a way that might but not necessarily will override stories at whatever level of production - and why blame them for it, people love to see Pacino being Pacino.
So sure, I suppose you can lay a lot of blame at the feet of casting directors or directors for willingly choosing to use such an actor, but that sidesteps the responsibility to an extent of the actor for choosing the roles they do. Daniel Day Lewis, for example, avoids most of these issues by choosing roles in which the sort of magnetism which you get from those performances is inherent to the film. For less choosy actors - lets got to Nic Cage on the other extreme - the results are a bit more mixed. It works really well in Face/Off, because inhabiting someone else's skin is literally the plot of the film. I'd make the case for it being probably the best option in The Bad Lieutenant. But then there's a huge swathe of films where he plays it too hard and comes off as insane - another in a series of missteps in the Wicker Man remake, for example.
I realise I'm choosing extreme examples, so I'll try and think of a method actor who is more subtle. The best I can think of right now is probably Ryan Gosling? What I'll try and think of while I sleep on it is actors who bring the sort of intensity that Pacino and Cage bring to insanity and yelling, or Gosling does to staring at stuff, to a broader range of emotions.
I went off on a slight tangent, ruminating on the state of acting nowadays when I mentioned Dance and Carlyle, however Carlyle is a method actor. Someone told me he slept rough to get into the role of a homeless person at some stage. For Kingsley, I kind of assumed he was one because of how much he throws into his roles. Some of the interviews I saw with Ray Winstone about Sexy Beast, and Kingsley's behaviour on set, led me to the conclusion that Kingsley is definitely a method actor.
I think the flaws of Nic Cage and Pacino's acting are their own particular flaws, not necessarily the flaws of their method. Both have a tendency to fall into a very familiar character groove, particularly as time has gone on. In fact due to the manner in which they tend to slip into the same character every time, there's an argument to be made for the fact that neither are the greatest at the 'method' of getting into the heads of the characters presented to them in screenplays. I do like both (Cage was among my favourites for a time), but their intensity doesn't match their versatility.
Still, I don't think you can say that DDL is 'avoiding' anything by the nature of the roles he picks. If anything, picking characters that require enormous magnetism presents a massive challenge, which he consistently lives up to only by dint of his versatility and acting chops.
I watched Drive for the first time the other day and was very impressed by Gosling. Even without much dialogue he pulled me completely into the psychology of his character.
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