My Thoughts on G4's Top 100 Games of All TIme

If anyone is interested in seeing this new list G4 compiled a day ago, here's the link. If you want to see the list on G4's site itself, here's the link to that, but you have to go through the list by looking at one game at a time.
 
When I saw this list, I couldn't help cringe at how its formatted. I will say that I'm happy with some of the games' rankings on this list, like Tetris being in the top 5 and Super Mario Bros taking number considering that its the game that brought back gaming in the West. However, I gotta list a few stupid things that are on this list as well as about the list that piss me off! I want to see if you guys agree or not.  

 I'm JB Smoove of Curb Your Enthusiasm and Madden 05 is the best game ever! Trust me, I'm a gamer!

  • This list was compiled from hearing opinions of game developers, which is valid. But they also got opinions from celebrities and athletes to count in the list just to grab freaking attention. Just ask those involved with making the games for this industry as well as the gamers!  
  • There are some massive omissions on this list. WHERE'S HALF LIFE 2?! Yeah Half Life1 made it on the list, but 2 is often considered the best game on the PC by many PC gamers! Also, where the Hell is Super Mario World? Miyamoto himself said SMW is where its at for 2D Mario.
  • While I love to spend time on IPHONE game apps, having a couple of those on Top 100 games ever doesn't sound right to me. I also want to say that its sad to see Angry Birds ranked higher than classics like Mortal Kombat and Contra as well as modern greats like Fallout 3 and Mass Effect 2. 
  • There is an utter lack of strategy gaming on this list. Only two strategy games (Civilization 2 and Starcraft) made it on this list. Where's Rome Total War? Where's Age of Empires I or II?! Where's Command and Conquer?! Where are countless other strategy gems that are beloved I swear when I saw nothing for those games, this was how I wanted to react:   
      Oh and I'm not done listing my issues:
  • Why on Earth is Madden NFL 2005 on the list when it was clearly out shined by ESPN NFL 2K5 back in 2004? Oh yeah because its Madden.  
  • Going back to CIv II, that is ranked 62 on the list. That game is ranked too low for something that is considered some of the best games made.
  • Tony Hawk Pro Skater is on the list, but isn't 3 is considered the pinnacle of the Tony Hawk Franchise?
  • I love Wii Sports, but I;m sure you're going to angry some hardcore gamers if that is ranked higher than Silent Hill 2 and Left 4 Dead for best games ever. Expect Valve fans to rage faster than 
Anyway these are a few of my rant-filled comments on G4's mostly dumb list of the Top 100 video games ever made. Tell me if you agree or disagree with the list, I personally think this list sucks and further shows why G4 is a shit channel nowadays, but that's just me. 
 
EDIT: After reading some of your comments, I do feel kind of silly to rant about G4's best games list. Its a list from G4, a station that lost its reputation as a good channel for gamers a long time ago so who really cares at this point? And its their list and their opinion so it shouldn't effect the way I play my games.
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If anyone is interested in seeing this new list G4 compiled a day ago, here's the link. If you want to see the list on G4's site itself, here's the link to that, but you have to go through the list by looking at one game at a time.
 
When I saw this list, I couldn't help cringe at how its formatted. I will say that I'm happy with some of the games' rankings on this list, like Tetris being in the top 5 and Super Mario Bros taking number considering that its the game that brought back gaming in the West. However, I gotta list a few stupid things that are on this list as well as about the list that piss me off! I want to see if you guys agree or not.  

 I'm JB Smoove of Curb Your Enthusiasm and Madden 05 is the best game ever! Trust me, I'm a gamer!

  • This list was compiled from hearing opinions of game developers, which is valid. But they also got opinions from celebrities and athletes to count in the list just to grab freaking attention. Just ask those involved with making the games for this industry as well as the gamers!  
  • There are some massive omissions on this list. WHERE'S HALF LIFE 2?! Yeah Half Life1 made it on the list, but 2 is often considered the best game on the PC by many PC gamers! Also, where the Hell is Super Mario World? Miyamoto himself said SMW is where its at for 2D Mario.
  • While I love to spend time on IPHONE game apps, having a couple of those on Top 100 games ever doesn't sound right to me. I also want to say that its sad to see Angry Birds ranked higher than classics like Mortal Kombat and Contra as well as modern greats like Fallout 3 and Mass Effect 2. 
  • There is an utter lack of strategy gaming on this list. Only two strategy games (Civilization 2 and Starcraft) made it on this list. Where's Rome Total War? Where's Age of Empires I or II?! Where's Command and Conquer?! Where are countless other strategy gems that are beloved I swear when I saw nothing for those games, this was how I wanted to react:   
      Oh and I'm not done listing my issues:
  • Why on Earth is Madden NFL 2005 on the list when it was clearly out shined by ESPN NFL 2K5 back in 2004? Oh yeah because its Madden.  
  • Going back to CIv II, that is ranked 62 on the list. That game is ranked too low for something that is considered some of the best games made.
  • Tony Hawk Pro Skater is on the list, but isn't 3 is considered the pinnacle of the Tony Hawk Franchise?
  • I love Wii Sports, but I;m sure you're going to angry some hardcore gamers if that is ranked higher than Silent Hill 2 and Left 4 Dead for best games ever. Expect Valve fans to rage faster than 
Anyway these are a few of my rant-filled comments on G4's mostly dumb list of the Top 100 video games ever made. Tell me if you agree or disagree with the list, I personally think this list sucks and further shows why G4 is a shit channel nowadays, but that's just me. 
 
EDIT: After reading some of your comments, I do feel kind of silly to rant about G4's best games list. Its a list from G4, a station that lost its reputation as a good channel for gamers a long time ago so who really cares at this point? And its their list and their opinion so it shouldn't effect the way I play my games.
Posted by SexualBubblegumX

It's G4 what do you expect?

Posted by Dad_Is_A_Zombie

@SexualBubblegumX said:

It's G4 what do you expect?

This.

Posted by Kidavenger

Where's the content? At least post the list or even a link to the original source on G4 instead of some pos blog.

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Posted by Landon

Super Mario World isn't even on this list, despite it being a better game than both Super Mario Bros and Super Mario Bros 3.

Posted by letmetrythisname

@Kidavenger: 100. Pong

99. Words with Friends

98. Pitfall

97. NBA 2K11

96. Guitar Hero 2

95. Burger Time

94. Braid

93. Star Wars: Tie Fighter

92. Galaga

91. The Sims

90. Baldur's Gate II: Shadow of Amn

89. Left 4 Dead

88. Double Dribble

87. Mass Effect 2

86. Outrun

85. Silent Hill 2

84. Wii Sports

83. Ninja Gaiden

82. Super Smash Bros. Melee

81. Resident Evil

80. Gears of War 3

79. Psychonauts

78. Spy Hunter

77. Excitebike

76. Blades of Steel

75. Fallout 3

74. Star Fox 64

73. Mega Man 2

72. Mortal Kombat

71. Wing Commander II: V of the K

70. Star Wars

69. Double Dragon

68. Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time

67. Minecraft

66. Assassin's Creed II

65. Unreal Tournament

64. NBA Jam

63. Wolfenstein 3D

62. Sid Meier's Civilization II

61 God of War III

60. Contra

59. Maniac Mansion II: Day of the Tentacle

58. Ultima Online

57. Pokemon Red/Blue

56. Super Street Fighter IV

55. Kingdom Hearts

54. Gauntlet

53. Deus Ex

52. Rock Band 3

51. Ratchet & Clank: Going Commando

50. Sonic the Hedgehog

49. Angry Birds

48. Tecmo Bowl

47. Myst

46. Red Dead Redemption

45. Metal Gear Solid

44. Grand Theft Auto IV

43. Quake III: Arena

42. Ghosts N Goblins

41. Super Mario 64

40. Space Invaders

39. Tony Hawk's Pro Skater

38. Super Metroid

37. Halo

36. Batman: Arkham City

35. Castlevania: Symphony of the Night

34. Counter Strike

33. Final Fantasy VII

32. Mike Tyson's Punch Out!

31. The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim

30. Super Street Fighter II Turbo

29. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic

28. Super Mario Kart

27. Chrono Trigger

26. Ico

25. Grand Theft Auto III

24. Madden NFL 2005

23. Halo 3

22. Panzer Dragoon Saga

21. Resident Evil 4

20. Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare

19. Diablo 2

18. Ms. Pac-Man

17. StarCraft

16. Half-Life

15. Donkey Kong

14. Uncharted 2: Among Thieves

13. Portal

12. Doom II

11. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time

10. World of Warcraft

09. Shadow of the Colossus

08. Goldeneye 007

07. Super Mario Bros. 3

06. The Legend of Zelda

05. Tetris

04. Asteroids

03. BioShock

02. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past

01. Super Mario Bros

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@Kidavenger: Sorry about that. Just posted a link to G4's list. I thought it would save time to post the full list on another site because G4 won't post the full list on there own website, or at least that's what I've observed. The link to G4 will get you started on #100 on the list.
Posted by Little_Socrates

It's a list. They never have every game in the order you like them, and genre representation will always be skewed.

That said, this list is only slightly better than Rolling Stones' "revised 2012" 500 Best Albums Ever list, which is at times completely fucking atrocious (even after favoritism for classic rock is considered.) One thing you have to accept about this list is that it represents only one title from any given franchise with only a handful of exceptions (Mario, Zelda, Grand Theft Auto.) As a result, that's why you only see Final Fantasy VII, Metal Gear Solid, and Half-Life. It is still weird to see iOS on "best games ever" lists, though it's certainly not strange to see them on "games this gen" lists. I think most critics would just agree that Angry Birds is not a fantastic game and that Sword & Sworcery, Jetpack Joyride, Tiny Wings, or even maybe Super Crate Box would be more fitting.

Don't take it too seriously, and you'll forget that it happened soon enough.

Posted by MocBucket62
@Little_Socrates: Eh, your right. I really shouldn't take it seriously especially how they formatted the show that covers their Top 100 games. It feels like watching on of those VH1 I love the "put decade in space" shows
Posted by Irvandus

@Dad_Is_A_Zombie said:

@SexualBubblegumX said:

It's G4 what do you expect?

This.

Yep.

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Posted by Napalm

Considering System Shock 2 is a far better game than BioShock, I'm calling bullshit.

Posted by Video_Game_King

My thoughts on G4's top 100 games of all time.

Fire Emblem: Seisen no Keifu isn't at the top of the list. This makes everybody involved with this list a terrible person.

Edited by AngelN7

It's dumb to complain about any videogame site favorite game list , where's The World Ends With You? where's Journey? why's NBA Jam and Gears of War on that list? , Why should tetris be on the top 5?, this notion that every "best games of all times" lists should include some Mario game or Half Life because they did something "remarkable" for the industry in their time automatically means they are the best games is dumb at end of the day it comes down to wich games you like ans wich are your favorites, not everybody shares the same opinions.

Posted by believer258

It looks about the same as every other website's "Top 100 List"

If somebody were to ever dive headfirst into gaming and wanted a top 100 and they bought all of those, then I'd say that they have a pretty wide variety and representation of the best of gaming over the years. I'd strike Wii Sports off of the list but everything else doesn't seem out of place.

Edited by zaglis

Top #fuckshit games lists.
 
lul

Posted by HiCZoK

No riddick, No Darkness. Nothing

Posted by SirPsychoSexy

It is a top 100 list, who gives a flying fuck.

Posted by MikkaQ

These lists are completely pointless and don't mean anything.

Seriously if you phrase it like "Well Asteroids took the number 4 spot, so it's better than Portal" it doesn't make any fucking sense!

You're comparing games that were never made to be compared. Also do you adopt the mindset of the player during that era? Cause otherwise what does Asteroids have to offer that literally anything made today doesn't? And If that's the case, isn't the list more "Games that impressed us the most when they came out"?

And this is why any website that makes lists can suck a big black dick.

Posted by flindip

Considering Bioshock is #3 and Tie Fighter is #93. Yeah this list is complete and utter bullshit. System Shock and System Shock 2 aren't even on this list. XCom isn't on this list either.

Angry Birds is on this list. Angry fucking Birds.

Edited by CookieMonster

"This list sucks because my favourite game isn't in it!!!111" is a downright silly opinion and to get angry at it is pointless. Its a list of their top 100 games, whats the point of ranting about it? Who gives a shit if they don't like the games you like?

I would like to know why Asteroids is fourth though.

Posted by Nekroskop

They actually put that Trebuchet-clone Angry Birds on that list.

That alone discredits the entire list.

Edited by flindip

@CookieMonster said:

"This list sucks because my favourite game isn't in it" is downright silly and to get angry at it is pointless. Its a list of their top 100 games, whats the point of ranting about it?

I would like to know why Asteroids is fourth though.

Thats fine, but its games that should have impact on game design and the industry as a whole. Case in point, Halo 3 is on this list, and on top of that is higher than Halo. Does that make any sense?

How the hell does Angry Birds even make this list? What is innovative about that fucking game?

I would like to point out, to the OP point, that the omission of Company of Heroes is another complete travesty.

Posted by MocBucket62
@flindip: Because its POPULAR!
Posted by flindip

@MocBucket62 said:

@flindip: Because its POPULAR!

Yeah and its bullshit. If the list was the most popular games of all time, then I wouldn't argue much. I mean that can be gauged by statistics, inflation, and unit sales.

Posted by CookieMonster

@flindip said:

but its games that should have impact on game design and the industry as a whole.

Did they actually say that though? Or is that just what you'd consider when compiling a top 100 list?

And of course halo 3 and halo had an impact on game design and the industry. Positively or negatively? Its up to you. To be honest, they made first person shooters even more popular on the consoles, so I would say they had a huge impact, yes. They probably wouldn't make my top 100 list though (I wasn't a big fan of halo 3's campaign and I haven't played halo 1 in years so I couldn't comment).

Edited by Hizang

Bioshock number 3, man I really didn't like that game to much. I also appreciate Minecraft being on that list.

Posted by flindip

@CookieMonster said:

@flindip said:

but its games that should have impact on game design and the industry as a whole.

Did they actually say that though? Or is that just what you'd consider when compiling a top 100 list?

And of course halo 3 and halo had an impact on game design and the industry. Positively or negatively? Its up to you. To be honest, they made first person shooters even more popular on the consoles, so I would say they had a huge impact, yes. They probably wouldn't make my top 100 list though (I wasn't a big fan of halo 3's campaign and I haven't played halo 1 in years so I couldn't comment).

I don't understand any other type of criteria for a list like this. A top 100 list should be games that should be gauged by innovation/influence. If they wanted to make a most popular list that is fine. But that is not the list they compiled.

I have no problem whatsoever with Halo being on a top 100 list. I have a massive problem with Halo 3 being on the list, and AHEAD of HALO.

Posted by _Chad

At 99 when I saw Words with Friends I started skimming. Mobile games have a place but its definitely not on any "Top 100 Games of All Time" list. Also Bioshock at number three? I love it but the number three game of all time is a huge stretch. Angry Birds #49 is a joke because fuck that game.

Posted by AjayRaz

it's not your list but ok

Posted by brownsfantb

Goldeneye was great and all but has anybody gone back and tried to play it in the last 5 years? Doesn't hold up at all. Certainly doesn't deserve to be in the top 10.

Posted by flindip

@AjayRaz said:

it's not your list but ok

Its never going to be MY list. But looking at the list provided, and the murky criteria. Is that list even plausible?

Posted by flindip

@brownsfantb said:

Goldeneye was great and all but has anybody gone back and tried to play it in the last 5 years? Doesn't hold up at all. Certainly doesn't deserve to be in the top 10.

See, to me that is meaningless, Goldeneye should be on a top 100, and you can make an argument for that being in the top 10(not sure if it should be). It was pretty much the first major FPS game on consoles.

Posted by CookieMonster

@flindip: Maybe its a list of 100 games they like? The list isn't called 'Most influental 100 games' or 'Most Innovative'. I mean, go ahead and dismiss this list if it doesn't meet your criteria, but its a waste of time getting annoyed at it.

Posted by fox01313

I wonder if lists like this would be better off as a bullet list without the numbers but the total amount listed, that would at least cut down on people getting upset on why one better game might get outranked by another. I find lists like this complete madness, doing a list of year by year is find but there's so many other good games that get lost in between that it just doesn't hold much attention for me.

Posted by morrelloman

I feel like they tried not to put too many games on the list from the same franchise. But then there was like 3 Zelda games in the top 10. It made no sense.

Posted by MocBucket62
@brownsfantb: Hehe, I actually played some Goldeneye with my college friends one time and it was kind of frustrating. I had a karate chop show down with player 2 and I won only because I got the armor. This was when I forgot how to wield a gun and once I did, the aiming felt awkward and took me a while to get used too. I'm okay with that in the Top 20 considering its impact on first person shooters on consoles.
Posted by flindip

@CookieMonster said:

@flindip: Maybe its a list of 100 games they like? The list isn't called 'Most influental 100 games' or 'Most Innovative'. I mean, go ahead and dismiss this list if it doesn't meet your criteria, but its a waste of time getting annoyed at it.

Who are they? Its not G4, they surveyed from game designer, celebrities, and athletes. If the list was complied among G4 staff only, you may have a point.

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@morrelloman said:

I feel like they tried not to put too many games on the list from the same franchise. But then there was like 3 Zelda games in the top 10. It made no sense.

Fuck Zelda.

I totally understand the first game getting on the list. But come the fuck on G4.

Posted by CookieMonster

@flindip said:

@CookieMonster said:

@flindip: Maybe its a list of 100 games they like? The list isn't called 'Most influental 100 games' or 'Most Innovative'. I mean, go ahead and dismiss this list if it doesn't meet your criteria, but its a waste of time getting annoyed at it.

Who are they? Its not G4, they surveyed from game designer, celebrities, and athletes. If the list was complied among G4 staff only, you may have a point.

Ah, I didn't know this. Why would they bother even doing a list if its just the tastes of random people?

Posted by MocBucket62
@flindip said:

I totally understand the first game getting on the list. But come the fuck on G4.

Yeah I was going to point out that in my blog, but decided not to. That is really weird that 3 Zelda games are that close to each other on this list and all three are in the Top 11.
Posted by TheHumanDove

@SexualBubblegumX said:

It's G4 what do you expect?

Posted by RenMcKormack

@CookieMonster said:

"This list sucks because my favourite game isn't in it!!!111" is a downright silly opinion and to get angry at it is pointless. Its a list of their top 100 games, whats the point of ranting about it? Who gives a shit if they don't like the games you like?

I would like to know why Asteroids is fourth though.

Because asteroids is mad good son. and also you can play it on a piece of paper. I think Jeff has said this before but objectively, isn't Tetris the best game of all time? its out on every platform everyone can play it and everyone loves it.

Posted by gorkamorkaorka

Half-Life 2 should have been number one, and while important, Super Mario Bros. is probably the worst traditional Mario game.

Posted by brownsfantb

@flindip said:

@brownsfantb said:

Goldeneye was great and all but has anybody gone back and tried to play it in the last 5 years? Doesn't hold up at all. Certainly doesn't deserve to be in the top 10.

See, to me that is meaningless, Goldeneye should be on a top 100, and you can make an argument for that being in the top 10(not sure if it should be). It was pretty much the first major FPS game on consoles.

I'm fine with it being in the Top 100 but not the Top 10. To me, a Top 10 game should be something that you can go back and play at any time and still have fun with it. When me and my friends tried to play Goldeneye last year, we gave up after 15 mins because it was so frustrating.

Posted by c0l0nelp0c0rn1

Half of this list reads like a greatest hits, and the other half looks like a "What's Hot!" list from USA Today (or some such newspaper). Anyway, at least Spike TV isn't doing a top 100 li-

Oh.

Edited by flindip

@RenMcKormack said:

@CookieMonster said:

"This list sucks because my favourite game isn't in it!!!111" is a downright silly opinion and to get angry at it is pointless. Its a list of their top 100 games, whats the point of ranting about it? Who gives a shit if they don't like the games you like?

I would like to know why Asteroids is fourth though.

Because asteroids is mad good son. and also you can play it on a piece of paper. I think Jeff has said this before but objectively, isn't Tetris the best game of all time? its out on every platform everyone can play it and everyone loves it.

I don't think its crazy to say Tetris could be #1, its certainly one of the most proliferating titles of all time. You can make an argument. Not sure if its the most innovative in terms of game design. But I wouldn't freak out if someone put that at #1.

Posted by MocBucket62
@c0l0nelp0c0rn1 said:

Half of this list reads like a greatest hits, and the other half looks like a "What's Hot!" list from USA Today (or some such newspaper). Anyway, at least Spike TV isn't doing a top 100 li-

Oh.

Eh, I may look at that and see if its better than G4's. Also, I don't plan on making another Top 100 game rant blog on here again considering certain negative comments on this blog.
Posted by RTSlord

Halo 3 is in the 20s. their argument is in-fucking-valid.

also, i wonder what GB's top 100 list would look like, too bad it'd take forever for them to do it

Posted by flindip

@RTSlord said:

Halo 3 is in the 20s. their argument is in-fucking-valid.

also, i wonder what GB's top 100 list would look like, too bad it'd take forever for them to do it

That is one of the biggest head scratchers on the list. Fuck, it shouldn't even be on the list.

Edited by not_a_bumblebee

Top Anything List are interesting and fun.  One thing to keep in mind is they ultimately boil down to opinion and you really should just relax.   At best they can raise a fun conversation and make you take a look at a thing you haven't heard of or ignored.   At worst a Top List attracts typical internet bullshit.   

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