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#1  Edited By MOLE
@Mikemcn said:

" @Whisperkill said:

" @Mikemcn: Have you ever smoked weed? "
No, and when I think about it, the Marijuana argument is the most unfair of all arguments.  If you've never smoked then your biased because you haven't experienced the effects, if you have smoked your biased because you use it already and have been influenced by it.... everyone loses. "
Did you know the majority of people in politics smoked marijuana?   Even Steve Jobs smoked marijuana, and he's considered a genius. 
 
Our founding fathers smoked it, in fact George Washington told the public to grow hemp.  Some of Thomas Jefferson's best moments described by him were smoking pot while looking off into the distance as far as the eye can see.  
 
You know, someone like you should hate all those people since they inhaled that innocent plant that's never harmed a single soul by itself. 
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Marijuana, one of the safest things you can put in your body.  They've pumped animals more smoke than a grown man could handle for 15 minute sessions off and on for a long time.......yet they failed to kill them.    Hmmmm, strange.....considering the fact that marijuana is classified along side the other hard drugs.   
 
If they legalize it, they're cutting off 60% of the drug Cartel's income, it's going to crush them slowly.  It will reduce crime.
 
People who are against legalization need to open their minds for once.

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That bill is taking away more of our rights.  Soon people will realize that there is so much shit piled in that massive bill, that people by pass it because they don't know about it.  
 
I think it's fucking sick.  I believe the government needs to tell the entire public every single thing in that bill, and everything that is concerning.  

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^^^ Same applies with alcohol.  Of course it would just create way more problems then it would actually solve.
 
People think if pot is legalized, somehow magically every single person is going to be be high all day every day.  Of course people abuse pot all the time, but if used in moderation there's no real threat.  You can still drive a car perfectly fine,  you can cook, make things, exercise.....anything.   The problem is that in that state of mind, you find things to be rather pointless and stupid to began with.   People think stoners don't know what's going on......then again it depends on the pot.
 
There are thousands of strains, each strain has a different effect than the other.   The stuff i'm smoking right now is more of a self aware strain, where I can hear every damn sound in my house.   It doesn't dull the senses, but in fact increases the senses to a new height......then again it's a matter of what strain you're smoking.   That's what it comes down to, which is why people need to learn which should be used in close moderation to what they're trying to accomplish.

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@SPACETURTLE said:


Yeah, back then the government (the American government of course)  used these crazy ads to keep people away and keeping them from using it. And yes, I can understand you're doubting the government today because of that. But I think partly the government made them ads the way they did because of lack of knowledge maybe... I'm not saying they didn't know the effects back then, but now they know so much more. But that is really besides the point. Why do you think they even started ads against the drug? Why even bother to make it illegal? Why would they go through so much effort to make the drug as little accessible as possible?
 
Btw, I hope you're taking this as a friendly discussion? There are so many people here that get all fired up when exchanging opinions.

It's very hard to say, i've looked around so much to find out the main cause why it was illegal to began with.    From what i've found, it had to do with illegal immigrants, and the people didn't like them hopping the border.  As they came over to America, they brought a lot of marijuana with them.   Americans found that it was a way for them to relax and deal with the tough times back then.   Anything to make them arrested was wanted, so they made pot illegal.     But that's once side of the story.
 
 It's also believed that when they made alcohol legal again, the men at the  Federal Bureau of Narcotics were afraid that they would lose their job, so they decided to force something else into law.   So they picked marijuana, perhaps it's linked with the idea of people not wanting immigrants, so the word spreaded and it gave the guys at the government a hint that it's the perfect opportunity. 
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^^^ The problem with smoking daily is creating high tolerance, which sucks.  
 
I think if they make it into an industry, you'll see it just like how alcohol is made.  You have cheap shitty brands, and you have high expensive quality brands.  The same can be applied to marijuana.  If the people demand it, they'll more and likely do it.

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@SPACETURTLE said:
" @MOLE: So if I have gotten this right, you are basing your facts of a documentary? Well, I have not seen this documentary, but keep in mind the documentary is made by people like you and me and the directors will always take a subjective stand when making it. In other words, the directors look at the case from a certain perspective not because they choose to, but because their human. This means, nothing made by man can ever be trusted fully. They angle the documentary to put the government in a bad spot and to make them hated. But I'm not saying the government is always right, mind you.  But seriously, the whole fucking world, every country and every government except ONE (that I know of) does NOT approve of marijuana. If scientists had proven there where no danger to the drug I bet you the governments would hold back so hard on the legalization marijuana. You WILL end up in prison if the police ever catch you with a lot of marijuana.  And what does this all tell you? IT IS STUPID SMOKING MARIJUANA! Cause these are all facts and I'm guessing you already know that. "
Yes i'm aware that people can lie on both sides of the argument.    But just go back in history and see what the government showed to the people.  What they showed back then would be laughable on today's standards.   Their anti pot ads were so pathetic.  They showed people driving a car, running over a guy and not giving a shit.  They showed people acting as if they're a mental patient wanting to kill everyone around them.    It freaked people out, especially when it was considered official back then, just like what's considered official these days is the real deal, and anything opposing it must be false.  
 



 

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@Partisan189 said:

" Legal, I have not actual interest in smoking it myself I just think it's a waste of tax payers money trying to enforce illegal marijuana. "

 Our government: Keeping us safe by letting murderers, rapists and thieves out of prison to make room for stoners.
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any one who has smoked it can argue any of the governments "facts".  "

They say it can cause cancer, yet there hasn't been a single case of it causing cancer.    Funny thing is, you can't kill yourself smoking marijuana.   They've tried to kill animals, and they haven't succeeded yet.   They say it kills braincells, but that's because they did test studies of putting gas masks on monkeys in lab, where they lost braincells due to the lack of oxygen.  They pumped them full of smoke nonstop for roughly 15 minutes worth.   Which resulted in cell loss, but it's twisted around these days, so yes technically it did make monkeys lose brain cells, only because they were suffocating them.
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@Ryax said:
" @Kefkaesque said:
" Of course it should be legal. Alchohol, Tobacco, hell even food from McDonalds is easily worse for your body than marijuana.  It's only "addictive" in the same way World of Warcraft is addictive. Some people are just too lazy to stop doing it. I used to smoke regularly but then I just kind of got bored with it and never turned back, and I know many people who have basically done the same. This kind of thing doesn't happen with an addictive substances.   But even if it WERE addictive, it should be the person's choice whether or not they want to take that risk. "
i wish the government saw it your way. i dont know why they would be scared of making money. "
The government knows it's not bad for people.  They don't give a shit even if it was extremely bad for you.  The government knows exactly what's out there, but they want people to use certain things.   
 
There's a big thing going on, where people are debating who is really telling the truth.   The government releases "facts", which are later debunked by universities.