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@fenryo said:

And I will not enter in the hot debate of diversity etc, since Austin close it for me.

Don't worry, I don't think anybody here wants your game to be different in that regard. And I'm sorry for using your game as an occasion to rekindle a discussion this website had with Austin about Witcher 3. Your work does not deserve this mess, I apologize.

I sincerely wish you good luck with your game and studio!

@austin_walker: Austin I don't feel dunked on but I don't want to ruin the comment section on this game further. I wrote a (not too long, don't worry) reply, can I write it to you somewhere else? I'd honestly hate to use this space again, but I also really need to address some of what you said or claimed.

Edit: I of course understand that you have actual work to do, which is not getting into forum wars, but I feel misrepresented by your reply. Let me please have at least one more answer in, doesn't need to be public either.

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@spacefish: @odinsmana:

You guys are pretty much spot on, thank you. I could have just said that, it would have been less comments and words.

I was also under the impression comments are like forum posts? Eh.

Don't worry mods, I will stop posting now.

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@snorkel_the_dolphin said:

it's very funny to me that there is a guy in the comment section of this video who has been arguing for 4 continuous hours that this game should have white people in it

I'm not, it shouldn't. I also did things in between but I like to respond when talked to or about me.

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@oursin_360:

I'm not going to quote because it's already getting messy. Still trying to address you:

To "who said this?", Austin straight up said that The Witcher 3 would be better with brown and black people. My grievance comes from him not applying the same to this game. This is what it boils down to for me. All his arguments, his "Are you really saying the game would be worse with black people?" for example could be made in reverse.

I think I agree with your next big text block, but I'm not sure where your indie argument is going. They could still add "Yo I'm a merchant from China or Russia, want my wares?" to some random merchant, which is along the lines of what people wanted Witcher 3 to have. Indie studios can do that much even with little ressources.

At this point I should emphasize again that I love Yakuza for being all Japanese, potentially this game (though the budget shows) for being all African and Witcher 3 for being all eastern/northern European. I have no problems with Aurion and I sincerely hope they succeed.

To some of your next points: And Dragon Age Origins came out in 2009. That's a long time ago.

I think you are saying that DA:I has a very traditional European world but with Northern American ethnic make up without explaining this and with no consequences? I guess I could agree.

I'm sorry but I have a hard time following what you said next. I quote:

"Anyway, in my opinion true diversity would be when the racial, gender and cultural make up of a game (or any form of media) gets to the point that no matter who makes up the majority of that cast we collectively don't notice because there is no more minority in who gets major representation across said medium."

Are you saying that you want a world where every ethnic group has more or less the representation as they have on Earth? That's...difficult. It would mean that by far the most games about Asia and Africa would come out of the western world, because Africans and Asians have far fewer opportunities to pursue something like game development. Do you want that though, or do you want authentic, heart felt and culturally rooted games? I prefer the latter.

Let me add one more thing: I heard about the racism in Witcher 3 before I played it, so the question wether I noticed it or not is mute. What I did notice though, and what I did not expect, was that Witcher 3 had aspects, references, and details that remind me even of my home and background, which is German, way more than the, well, generic fantasy world of Dragon Age. There are at least 3 references to Grimm's Fairy Tales in Witcher 3 and I actually grew up with them as a kid outside of disney movies. Architecture felt way more familiar than Dragon Age, and most of all, mood and atmosphere. Maybe I'm imagining these things, but even as just a side group in Witcher 3, as a German I felt more at home in this world than in any other video game I played. Talk about representation, I have yet to have a Main Character of the same background or open world that I know to explore. Nazi shooters don't count for obvious reasons.

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@efesell said:

@phuturist: Given that the argument was to someone claiming that Witcher 3 was clearly a very unique story I think that does work quite well?

Sure, but the person I then argued with argues that Witcher's story is less original than Aurion's because Witcher's story is white. And my point was more that you can make this rhetorical trick with every story.

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