Thanks guys. I figured it was mostly the intricate details that all added up. As for licensing I don't care much, I'm American, so... yeah. I know that the Premier League is a thing but not much else, so I bought the World Cup edition back in '10. I know what countries are better than I know private clubs, and that way I only need to buy the new Fifa every four years. I played a lot of NHL2K up until EA's NHL 10 and I never looked back, so I can relate to a lot of the differences, better in the PS2 days and just kind of stagnating since then.