Rejected...

Did you guys have a lot of your submission approved? I know I have. But of course, if you submit a lot of stuff, chances increase on having something rejected. Up untill today there was one submission of mine that was rejected. However, when I woke up today I had an e-mail stating that another of my submissions was rejected. Not a big deal, of course, but I do want to write up a few sentences on this subject to show some of the rough spots of Giant Bomb.

So my first rejected submission was a picture with a watermark on it. While that was totally my own fault, I noticed the mistake only a couple of minutes after I submitted the picture. At the same time--this was on launch day--the guys over at Giant Bomb were swamped with all our submissions. My watermarked picture was queued up, I knew it was a mistake, but there was nothing I could do about it because there is no way to edit your pending submissions. So for the next twenty hours, my submission just sat there. Laughing in my face, knowing how I would get a big fat red stamp that says "Rejected"! And sure enough, once the Giant Bombers got to my submission, it was rejected.

My second rejected submission is one I submitted last wednesday; three and a half days ago. It contained some minor edits to the Devil May Cry 4 page. At that time there were a lot of things that needed improvement on that page. But since our guys were avalanched under this constant stream of submissions, like I said, my submission was left pending for three and a half days. In the mean time someone else submitted changes to that page which were approved before mine. So now an edit was made to the Devil May Cry 4 page that made mine obsolete. At least, that is what I THINK. Of course, it could very well be the case that the other edit was submitted just a little while before mine and got approved making mine redundant. I don't know.

So what is up? First of all, Giant Bomb really needs to implement a way for users to make edits to their submissions queue. That way, anyone who notices a mistake in one of their submissions can opt to correct that mistake. Or, if that would be too much of a hassle for Giant Bomb, users should at the very least have the option to delete something from their queue entirely. Second, it is unclear whether edits to specific pages are handled in chronological order. If not, this should defnitely be corrected for it is the only fair way to handle submissions, I think. Of course, if edits are already handled that way, this whole deal is a problem of transparancy. In that case, it would be nice if there somehow was an option to see which edits are already proposed for a certain page. Such a system would enable users to make an informed decision on whether or not they want to submit an edit and avoid making redundant submissions.

What do you guys think?

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Posted by RVonE

Did you guys have a lot of your submission approved? I know I have. But of course, if you submit a lot of stuff, chances increase on having something rejected. Up untill today there was one submission of mine that was rejected. However, when I woke up today I had an e-mail stating that another of my submissions was rejected. Not a big deal, of course, but I do want to write up a few sentences on this subject to show some of the rough spots of Giant Bomb.

So my first rejected submission was a picture with a watermark on it. While that was totally my own fault, I noticed the mistake only a couple of minutes after I submitted the picture. At the same time--this was on launch day--the guys over at Giant Bomb were swamped with all our submissions. My watermarked picture was queued up, I knew it was a mistake, but there was nothing I could do about it because there is no way to edit your pending submissions. So for the next twenty hours, my submission just sat there. Laughing in my face, knowing how I would get a big fat red stamp that says "Rejected"! And sure enough, once the Giant Bombers got to my submission, it was rejected.

My second rejected submission is one I submitted last wednesday; three and a half days ago. It contained some minor edits to the Devil May Cry 4 page. At that time there were a lot of things that needed improvement on that page. But since our guys were avalanched under this constant stream of submissions, like I said, my submission was left pending for three and a half days. In the mean time someone else submitted changes to that page which were approved before mine. So now an edit was made to the Devil May Cry 4 page that made mine obsolete. At least, that is what I THINK. Of course, it could very well be the case that the other edit was submitted just a little while before mine and got approved making mine redundant. I don't know.

So what is up? First of all, Giant Bomb really needs to implement a way for users to make edits to their submissions queue. That way, anyone who notices a mistake in one of their submissions can opt to correct that mistake. Or, if that would be too much of a hassle for Giant Bomb, users should at the very least have the option to delete something from their queue entirely. Second, it is unclear whether edits to specific pages are handled in chronological order. If not, this should defnitely be corrected for it is the only fair way to handle submissions, I think. Of course, if edits are already handled that way, this whole deal is a problem of transparancy. In that case, it would be nice if there somehow was an option to see which edits are already proposed for a certain page. Such a system would enable users to make an informed decision on whether or not they want to submit an edit and avoid making redundant submissions.

What do you guys think?

Posted by Christopper

You just commented on my blog about this, so I'll reply on yours.

"Great minds must think alike!

But yeah it's frustrating. Im steering clear of submitting anything indepth for the time being because I really dont want to waste my time doing something big and having it rejected because 'lil john' has written a single paragraph and get's it accepted."

Posted by Lepuke

Yeah, I proposed the self submission cancel option on one of the boards a couple days ago.
Probably it was overlooked considering how busy the site is right now. Oh well, if enough of us say "make it so" it will probably eventually happen.

Posted by RVonE

Good point. I've been working on some larger edits but I guess I'll be thinking hard before finishing it.

Posted by AlexMarra

When I first joined Giant Bomb, there weren't pages for Dimitri Rascalov and Ada Wong, so I went and requested they be added to the database. But in the couple of days GB has been alive, those two characters have since been added and now I got two e-mails saying my submissions for those two characters were rejected because they already existed. So instead of getting some points, I got an e-mail that's basically calling me a retard.

Posted by efrucht

I was going to blog about this, but you said exactly what I was going to say! -_^

Posted by RVonE

@Alex: haha, yeah that's exactly the way I felt when I read that e-mail. Let's just hope they'll iron out these imperfections.

@efrucht: sorry man :)

Posted by L

Yeah, I nearly uploaded a watermarked image. You have to have a good eye sometimes for some watermarks. However, I have noticed they've let some pass through. I have had a few rejected - one was rejected likely because I uploaded the image before (the new one I was trying to upload was better quality) but they didn't notice that. The other rejection was trying to assign a logo to a franchise and the game. They usually accept them but they declined on one franchise.

I do think they need to put some sort-of notice on a page, to see that 'a blurb has already been submitted* etc just to let you know so your edits won't collide. This won't be a problem when you hit the 1000 contribution points mark, though, since they'll go through live.

Posted by EpicSteve

I made a similar mistake when adding pictures, I accidentally inserted an unrelated pic.

Posted by RVonE

Yeah, my edits have all gone through since I reached a thousand points. However, my submissions from before I reached that threshold still have to be approved. Also, when you submit a new page--one that didn't exist yet--it still has to be approved by the moderators, even if you have a thousand points.

Posted by Happy_Cloud

I guess they assumed people would thoroughly check their submissions before sending them. Still, this does seem like an oversight on GB's part, I agree.

Posted by RVonE

Yes, of course people should thoroughly check their submission, but accidents happen, right?

Posted by SteepInKline

Amen, man, Amen!

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Posted by Matt

I'm sure problems like this will be resolved as the site matures.

Posted by RVonE

@Indeed, that is the entire purpose of this blog post.

Posted by zhinse

It's pretty funny. I submitted a watermarked image by accident also, but it got approved. 

Posted by Brackynews

I'd like to give mad props to the moderators, who, in my handful of rejections, specifically did not make me feel like a retard.  With the backlog being what it was, when I made my submissions, those pages were not yet on the site.  I'm sure that became a familiar pattern in 20,000 submissions.  There should absolutely be a way for users to edit their own queue.  It should function like a support ticket.

In a reverse case, my concept page for Mount was approved after a (better) page for Mounts had already been created.  So it's an imperfect two way street. Nature Of The Bomb. 
(I should really go post to have them merged...)