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Wii U power implications

So I'm sort of bummed out by the focus on Wii U performance right now... I'm not religious about my games. I have invested heavily in almost every system on the market for the past decade. The general rule for me is that when a game shows up that I want to play, that's when I buy the system. For the XBOX it was Ninja Gaiden. PS2 it was GTA3. GameCube it was Metroid Prime, etc. I have no "loyalty" beyond the games. For instance I haven't picked up a Vita yet, simply because there isn't anything on there I want to play. Yet.

The same is true for the Wii U. To me, a system is not defined by its statistical potential, but by its gameplay reality. For instance, ZombiU (that name!) is what makes the Wii U desirable to me, NOT the prospect of "next gen". I think anyone who has been playing games on the PC for the past couple of years have been inhabiting the next gen for long enough to make that prospect pretty uninteresting.

I think the _actual_ issue with the Wii U is that while it's friendlier to ports than the Wii was, it's still unfriendly enough (again in terms of this nebulous "power") to mean by the next generation of PS3 and Xbox, the Wii U is again likely to receive substandard ports. If you're "into ports", or you only own one system and only ever plan to own one system, I suppose this is a real concern. Personally, I always thought the port game was the worst part of this generation. Nowhere near enough exclusives meant the PS3 and 360 were practically interchangeable, the only real reason my PS3 became my platform of choice was the horrendous noise on the 360. It's pretty sad to have a house with so many expensive bits of hardware and so much crossover the biggest difference is the shape of the case. I've really missed divergence.

As a gamer who doesn't play console games online, the single real issue with the Wii, to this day, remains rendering resolution. People like to slag on the Wii, but there are games on that system that are absolutely glorious, and would have been much, much nicer on an HD system. The gameplay was there, but the presentation was not. It's not even as if rendering at an HD resolution implies you need to spend more time on assets, as Dolphin emulator footage shows just how well Nintendo's original art holds up. So that was a real misstep on Nintendo's behalf. The Wii didn't have to be that shitty. While I understand why, it's pretty sad to hear all the "collecting dust" stories because they are so ungrateful. Donkey Kong Country Returns is the kind of game you simply do not see on competing platforms, and it's sad to see it so easily disregarded.

So with that out of the way, I'm simply excited about the Wii U just as I was excited about the Wii; It's something else. Watch dogs is most likely not going to see a Wii U release, and other ports built on legacy tech are equally unlikely to see Wii U ports worth our time. But when even Ubisoft can deliver a launch title like ZombiU that is weird enough and different enough to sell the system to skeptics, and Nintendo's dullard b-game (NSMBU) looks as ludicrously gorgeous at 60fps as it does, I just don't know how not to be at least interested in what the system is doing.

Nintendo are savants. They make the dumbest decisions in the business. There's a saying, "Nintendo always has to do one thing completely wrong". As far as I can see, their "one thing" this time was storage. The standard Wii U kit is the Xbox 360 Arcade of 2012; Why anyone would want what amounts to about 3 gigs of storage on their system is baffling. Even the deluxe kit at 32 gigs is, er, modest. Nintendo's claims that you can hook up an external HDD to augment this is just as false as their claim on the Wii that you could expand your memory with SD cards; External storage on Nintendo systems are hopeless third rate citizens. You'll have to copy stuff back and forth between your internal memory and external memory if you want to use it. It's incredible.

You'd almost think Nintendo users harbor a case of Stockholm syndrome now, with the amount of abuse they've seen from "Nofriendo". Nintendo's willingness to disappoint is uniquely brazen in today's consumer-oriented industry.

But the games are where it's at. Even the physically painful Metroid Other M was, at its core, pretty freaking sweet. I'm excited to see what the Wii U does the next couple of years. Simply because it's different.

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@Fattony12000: Man how about that Gamecube launch... Luigi's Mansion, Smash Bros Melee and Pikmin. And that console still failed miserably.

It looks like a good system. If it works for you it works for you. I'm a little bit more irrational I guess. Some games just trigger lust for me while others I can more easily postpone. I didn't get the Cube, for instance, until Metroid Prime. That was the game that pushed those magic buttons for me. I was a big big Ninja Gaiden fan when I was a kid, so I had already worked myself into a frenzy over the Xbox game before it came out, that was all I needed. I couldn't give a crap about the Halos, but how could I not play NG? I've been so bummed out by the lack of proper console survival horror, and I was such a big fan of Dark Souls that ZombiU just, right now, from what I'm told and what I've seen, just seems to be the prime reason to get a WiiU.

I'm that easy ;-)

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I just want Nintendo games on the 360.

In other words, I want the Wii U to fail so hard that Nintendo gets out of the hardware business.

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@Mcfart: It doesn't work that way dude

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@Sunjammer said:

@Mcfart: It doesn't work that way dude

I pray to Jesus.

It will happen.

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@WinterSnowblind:

There are rumors about the next MS console, codename Durango, which is what everyone thinks is going to be released next year. There are also less believable rumors about an Xbox branded Surface tablet which I thinks is what you are talking about. There is also an even less believeable rumor that MS is working on a Apple TV-like device which that is focused more on streaming content and also playing Xbox Live Arcade kind of games.

Is very possible MS releases something next year but Sony not so much. To release a powerful console like everyone expect, they either sell it at a really "expensive" price (450 or 500 USD) or they subside the price to sell more consoles. Sony is in big financial troubles and nowadays their most profitable bushiness is videogames, but that is because they are selling a console at a price over the cost and they have a huge user base that buys games and also an increasing number of people using their PSN service. If they are responsible with their company they can't take the risk of releasing a new console at a competitive price. Also I would like to point out that Sony is still working strong on PS3 games, there is The Last of Us (which seems its going to be a end of the year title), Beyond Two Souls and hopefully The Last Guardian.

MS can release a next gen console but the questions is, do they need it?. The make a huge portion of their money Live subscriptions, ads, and that sweet Call of Duty money... apparently people still love their Call of Duty by the sales of the last one. Besides that and Halo, and Gears of War, does MS care that much about games this days? Let's hope I'm wrong and they change their business strategy soon.

Finally, yes Nintendo has a history of being unfriendly to Indie developers but apparently they change a lot for the WiiU, they guys that made Trine 2 said Nintendo lets them set the price of the game, control when to do a sale, Nintendo is not making them pay for patches (unlike MS and Sony do now) and apparently is not putting restrictions on the number of patches. I'm guessing Nintendo intends to make some sort of "Indie Club" and let them play by this rules and not let everyone do whatever the y like, but still is a lot better than standard on consoles. Yes, this is not enough to gain mass appeal, but I think a console that has Nintendo games and a lot of indie titles (which are more likely going to use that gamepad in interesting ways) is something that could be interesting to a big number of people, at least enough for Nintendo not to disappear or become a third party like some think is going to happen.

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Do not buy a Wii U expecting the true next generation. When Xbox 360 and PS3 upgrade, Wii U will again be in the Wii's position, a little bit behind. If major AAA releases with huge budgets are your thing, buy yourself an Xbox 360, and buy whatever they come out with next, it's pretty well a given that Microsoft will put its giant bags of money where its mouth is and cater to these games.

Buy a Wii U because of Nintendo's lineup of first party titles, and what you expect third parties to try on the system - desipte the lack of mulitplatform, the Wii did get some great games designed specifically for the hardware, even from big publishers. If ZombiU is any indication, the same will be true of the Wii U.