@ryanwho: The difference between the Higgs boson and god is that god is fundamentally untestable, the Higgs boson is not.
Also, ID as a scientific theory is unnecessary due to the existence of evolution. ID is just another attempt to fill a gap that science has yet to fill with "god/aliens/FSM did it". Though, I suppose in this case, science has already filled that particular gap.
EDIT: For those unaware, it's a fancy schmancy way to say that some being (hint: God) created/is designing nature. It means you don't believe in evolution. Just creationists trying to sound scientific. "
Right, so by your logic Richard Dawkins is not an Atheist or a proponent of Evolution, given his admission of belief in Intelligent Beings that seeded life. "
Richard Dawkins isn't an atheist, he is strongly swayed towards atheism, but still classes himself as a an agnostic, much like myself. "
you do know that by being agnostic you are an atheist right? a = not theism = belief in god. you either believe in a god, or youre an atheist anyways yea Intelligent design is just silly. its just a way for people to explain why things are the way they are without having to research it, or waiting for the research to be done "
No Gnosticism deals in knowledge Theism deals in belief.
A gnostic thinks we can know wheter god exists or not, an agnostic thinks we cant know. A theist believes that god exists, an atheist does not believe that god exists.
"ID was conjured up by religious people who'd like religion to be taught in schools. You can believe in creation and evolution, you can't believe in ID and evolution. Oh, and I don't believe in ID, or god for that matter. "
Explain why Intelligent Design can't work with evolution. If one believes in God, then what says he didn't allow evolution to create dinosaurs, but also created a situation where they would be wiped out, so that mammals could evolve into man? Seems like a devine hand could pretty much guide evolution the entire way, creating situations to lead to his final creation. That is Intelligent Design working with Evolution.
No, that is believing in ID, and not evolution. Anyway, this is a stupid subject at the best of times, considering ID isn't actually a scientific theory whilst evolution is and a video game forum is not the place to hold it. "
Nice job ducking the subject. But I agree that I don't want to have this discussion either. I don't agree that is the wrong place, though. It's in the off-topic section, and you knew what you were getting into when you read the subject title and continued reading everyone's comments... and decided to state your opinions. Just saying, don't participate if you don't like where it might lead and suddenly change your mind about what justifies being appropriate for these forums. "
I'm sorry if my answer didn't satisfy. Again, intelligent design and evolution are mutually exclusive. Make no mistake about it.
If, as you described in your hypothetical event, god caused the Permian–Triassic extinction event, then it isn't actually evoltution, it's god designing a system where mammals (and eventually homo sapiens) could evolve. That's intelligent design if I ever heard it.
"ID was conjured up by religious people who'd like religion to be taught in schools. You can believe in creation and evolution, you can't believe in ID and evolution. Oh, and I don't believe in ID, or god for that matter. "
Explain why Intelligent Design can't work with evolution. If one believes in God, then what says he didn't allow evolution to create dinosaurs, but also created a situation where they would be wiped out, so that mammals could evolve into man? Seems like a devine hand could pretty much guide evolution the entire way, creating situations to lead to his final creation. That is Intelligent Design working with Evolution.
No, that is believing in ID, and not evolution.
Anyway, this is a stupid subject at the best of times, considering ID isn't actually a scientific theory whilst evolution is and a video game forum is not the place to hold it.
ID was conjured up by religious people who'd like religion to be taught in schools. You can believe in creation and evolution, you can't believe in ID and evolution.
Oh, and I don't believe in ID, or god for that matter.
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