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Portable gaming thoughts, and I hate the NGP acronym.

 

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Glass Boxes

Have you looked at an original GameBoy recently?
 
No, not the Gameboy pocket, or another semi-modern color iteration. I'm talking about the original Gameboy: The one you can knock someone out with.
 
 I had a friend who had one of these. He spilled a pack of ketchup once inside it.  He got upset.  I laughed.
 I had a friend who had one of these. He spilled a pack of ketchup once inside it.  He got upset.  I laughed.
Looking back on this original device, it's hard to imagine that we considered such hardware using descriptive terminology that utilized the word "portable". Several years ago the Pacific Science center had a little show going on about gaming's history. Seeing the original Gameboy on display in a glass case, as if it was some archeological discovery made me chuckle a bit. At the same time the device looked alien to me as it sat alongside it's portable brethren. The Sega Game Gear and rare Nomad took watch over the Gameboy, as if they were two sarcophagi standing still, looking over a fallen king. 
 
They were also, and I'm paraphrasing my reaction here, "Farking huge!
 
What was perhaps most interesting was not the devices themselves, but my reaction that they seemed foreign.  Perhaps I have discovered a concept in human nature, where anything placed in a glass box is rendered as an alien artifact, but my own personal reaction superseded this idea. (If anyone can randomly take things they own and place them in a glass box, and see how they're own perception of said object/person changes to said individual, please contact me so I can take all credit for this idea.)  

The GameBoy was not some mysterious device for me. It was a freaking GameBoy. I played with one for years. Same thing with the GameGear, a device that out-side of it's ludicrous battery-life, wasn't all that bad of a device in retrospect.   

Yet here I was. My DS was somewhere in my pocket, next to my phone. I took it for granted. While I began to reminisce about the time's I had with the GameBoy, my mind pondered about how far we had come.  
 

Back to the future

Enough of that, back to reality: 
What a strange cornucopia of gaming news that has happened this past week, that everyone knew was going to happen.
 
 TROPHIES? TROPHIES? I HEARD SOMEONE SAY TROPHIES! I DON'T KNOW WHERE I AM RIGHT NOW! WHERE ARE THE TROPHIES?!
 TROPHIES? TROPHIES? I HEARD SOMEONE SAY TROPHIES! I DON'T KNOW WHERE I AM RIGHT NOW! WHERE ARE THE TROPHIES?!
Surprising people these days is pretty difficult. Outside the occasional E3 announcement, trying to hide the development of anything these days seems to be a challenging balancing act. Even the announcements that are supposed to take people by surprise, are not necessarily surprising for what the product is, but instead the circumstances surrounding it. Although one could easily argue those circumstances are not surprising

The amount of time and effort involved in making new hardware for companies, kinda defeats the usual blanket silence regarding what the next platform is going to be. You then compound stuff like, the internet, and you have situations with anonymous individuals leaking full-blown prototype shots of said hardware. Or in the case of the PSP2, developers flat-out stating not only it's existence, but certain key-features with it's hardware.
 
Watching the PSP2's debut was an interesting experience to say the least.
 
I hate the name of the prototype. "NGP". Certain acronyms annoy me, because I find that saying " Blops" out-loud sounds like I'm referencing some-form of transmitted disease. I don't like NGP for another reason, specifically it's use of "Next-Generation" in it's title.
 
Yes, I understand that it's a prototype/not finalized name. Other systems and hardware go under a myriad of different monikers and names prior to release.
NGP just seems lazy. It reanimates memories of a time a few years into the current console generation, and listening to how people would still refer to the current generation of systems as "Next Generation". As if though HD consoles were stuck in some time-warp, and we were incapable of calling something current....current...and had to keep referring to modern games as some unobtainable concept that had yet to be shown to the world. 
 
 Yeah...You like that don't you?
 Yeah...You like that don't you?

As of now there are too many things about this device that I don't like, but perhaps more importantly: Don't understand. 
Everything will become more clear in the upcoming months. Right off the bat the idea of having touch capabilities on the back of the device confuses me. Playing an intense game on-the-go can become difficult enough with out-side stimuli, now you want me to feel the back of this thing? I get the impression we will be seeing tons of funny youtube video montages, of people feeling up the back of this device in a creepy manner. It's one of those things we will understand when we finally get a-hold of the device ourselves...
 
That didn't sound right...I didn't...I...uh....with the previous sentence...err...
 

The Japan factor

Do you know what I took away from the entire show this week? That Japan might be in a bit of trouble. This part is admittedly a bit more muddled, and the amount of variables are off the charts to make a concrete statement: But my level of concern for Japanese game development, that silent barometer that resides silently within many of us, began to rise a bit with me. 
 
"A hand-held, with PS3 capabilities and graphical fidelity!!!"     
 
That sounds great right? Right? It's going to have trophies too! MMMM! Delicious trophies!  
 
 Nathan Drake's wisecracking one-liners will not be hampered by the systems small size!
 Nathan Drake's wisecracking one-liners will not be hampered by the systems small size!
Small problem: Japanese game development is strapped for cash. 
A combination of archaic development management, coupled with simply the high cost of producing these games, has hit Japan's once thriving industry hard. I'm talking in broad generalizations here, the exact make-up of what's happening in Japan is far more complex for one blog to illustrate entirely. What has happened in the last few years has been a resurgence in portable games, and of course, the Wii.
 
Looking for a new cool JRPG? It's probably on the DS, or the PSP. 
While the next few sentences are pure personal dribble: It almost feels, for me at least, that Japanese game development has become terrified of HD gaming in general. It feels like they are almost, hiding out in the portable market. Weathering the storm. I don't take that much umbrage with them, it makes sense that they're focus is just to survive. 
Also, Japanese games love Monster Hunter. Can't blame them, even if I don't understand it.

Valkyria Chronicles was probably my personal favorite game of 2008. Yet here I am two years later, not playing the sequel on the PS3, but on the PSP. This isn't an absolute example of what's happening everywhere within Japanese game development. Just pointing out a trend, a philosophy that I feel the PSP2 threatens.   
 
 In all honesty: I don't think any portable device can render the awesomeness of Snakes mustache.
 In all honesty: I don't think any portable device can render the awesomeness of Snakes mustache.

To be fair, who knows the exact quality of these games. Although if Sony is pushing this device with it's graphical fidelity as it's top billing, one has to take notice. Based on the current speculation, one can argue: If Japanese game development can't comprehend the costs of current generation games, how will they be able to make games for this device? Again, I'm talking with sweep generalizations (and speculation), but there is a pause for alarm here.   

Watching the "games" that were on display for PSP2, it felt like I was watching a cornucopia of art assets being ported over. You ported over character models from Metal Gear and Yakuza! That's awesome! 
What else do you got? Anything new? Uh...This doesn't bode well. 

The bigger news? How about Epic's Mark Rein jumping up and down like a hyper child binging on candy, because Unreal 3 runs fantastic on it?

Rein calls the NGP a "pretty huge deal" for not just Playstation fans, but gamers.


 Pictured: Epic's Mark Rein showing how big of a
 Pictured: Epic's Mark Rein showing how big of a "huge deal", this is.

How much of a deal is it? Pretty huge.
 
That obviously vague statement makes me wonder the capabilities of where this device can take us. Western portable gaming (outside of cellphones and Iphone devices.), isn't exactly very prominent. I'm not talking about the trillions that Angry Birds has made, just talking about who leads software sales on PSP and the DS. Can this be the beginning, of the rise of big budget western portable game development?
  


History

Which brings me back to the original PSP....and the glass display box.
 
The Game Gear sits alongside the GameBoy. The Gameboy was technically inferior to the Game Gear. The Nomad was literally a portable variation of the Mega Drive/Genesis, which at the time wasn't exactly a dead platform. Both were crushed by Nintendo's little portable device, that didn't get the ability to display color until 1998. A year after Sega stopped supporting the Game Gear. 
While Sega's collapse is one that someone could write volumes of books about, it does make one still pause and wonder...
 
...Does powerful hardware command the same form of dominance in the portable market? 
The PSP was hailed at the time as a portable device able to render PS2 quality games, but how exactly did that help in the long run? As an owner of both the DS and the PSP, I would be lying if I said my PSP got the most play-time. Every once in a while, a PSP game would floor me, make me upset and wonder why other developers are not trying to upstage what I'm currently playing at the time.   
 
Instead of diving head-long into praise, I find myself holding back. Contrary to another Sony press release, I feel like I've been down this road before too many times. Not only that, new-found uncertainty about what's in development now bothers me. Are we on the verge of finally bridging the gap between these different platforms? Or are we perhaps forgetting, that Angry Birds doesn't necessarily need Unreal 3 to be successful. 
Stick in what's probably going to be a very draconian closed system with how you play these games, because of the current PS3 hacking controversy...
 
Well...I wish Sony luck...I don't normally pick up consoles when they immediately launch...But at least I'm enthusiastic about the next big thing. 
 
More apprehension than excitement. :/
 

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Now portable!

Glass Boxes

Have you looked at an original GameBoy recently?
 
No, not the Gameboy pocket, or another semi-modern color iteration. I'm talking about the original Gameboy: The one you can knock someone out with.
 
 I had a friend who had one of these. He spilled a pack of ketchup once inside it.  He got upset.  I laughed.
 I had a friend who had one of these. He spilled a pack of ketchup once inside it.  He got upset.  I laughed.
Looking back on this original device, it's hard to imagine that we considered such hardware using descriptive terminology that utilized the word "portable". Several years ago the Pacific Science center had a little show going on about gaming's history. Seeing the original Gameboy on display in a glass case, as if it was some archeological discovery made me chuckle a bit. At the same time the device looked alien to me as it sat alongside it's portable brethren. The Sega Game Gear and rare Nomad took watch over the Gameboy, as if they were two sarcophagi standing still, looking over a fallen king. 
 
They were also, and I'm paraphrasing my reaction here, "Farking huge!
 
What was perhaps most interesting was not the devices themselves, but my reaction that they seemed foreign.  Perhaps I have discovered a concept in human nature, where anything placed in a glass box is rendered as an alien artifact, but my own personal reaction superseded this idea. (If anyone can randomly take things they own and place them in a glass box, and see how they're own perception of said object/person changes to said individual, please contact me so I can take all credit for this idea.)  

The GameBoy was not some mysterious device for me. It was a freaking GameBoy. I played with one for years. Same thing with the GameGear, a device that out-side of it's ludicrous battery-life, wasn't all that bad of a device in retrospect.   

Yet here I was. My DS was somewhere in my pocket, next to my phone. I took it for granted. While I began to reminisce about the time's I had with the GameBoy, my mind pondered about how far we had come.  
 

Back to the future

Enough of that, back to reality: 
What a strange cornucopia of gaming news that has happened this past week, that everyone knew was going to happen.
 
 TROPHIES? TROPHIES? I HEARD SOMEONE SAY TROPHIES! I DON'T KNOW WHERE I AM RIGHT NOW! WHERE ARE THE TROPHIES?!
 TROPHIES? TROPHIES? I HEARD SOMEONE SAY TROPHIES! I DON'T KNOW WHERE I AM RIGHT NOW! WHERE ARE THE TROPHIES?!
Surprising people these days is pretty difficult. Outside the occasional E3 announcement, trying to hide the development of anything these days seems to be a challenging balancing act. Even the announcements that are supposed to take people by surprise, are not necessarily surprising for what the product is, but instead the circumstances surrounding it. Although one could easily argue those circumstances are not surprising

The amount of time and effort involved in making new hardware for companies, kinda defeats the usual blanket silence regarding what the next platform is going to be. You then compound stuff like, the internet, and you have situations with anonymous individuals leaking full-blown prototype shots of said hardware. Or in the case of the PSP2, developers flat-out stating not only it's existence, but certain key-features with it's hardware.
 
Watching the PSP2's debut was an interesting experience to say the least.
 
I hate the name of the prototype. "NGP". Certain acronyms annoy me, because I find that saying "Blops" out-loud sounds like I'm referencing some-form of transmitted disease. I don't like NGP for another reason, specifically it's use of "Next-Generation" in it's title.
 
Yes, I understand that it's a prototype/not finalized name. Other systems and hardware go under a myriad of different monikers and names prior to release.
NGP just seems lazy. It reanimates memories of a time a few years into the current console generation, and listening to how people would still refer to the current generation of systems as "Next Generation". As if though HD consoles were stuck in some time-warp, and we were incapable of calling something current....current...and had to keep referring to modern games as some unobtainable concept that had yet to be shown to the world. 
 
 Yeah...You like that don't you?
 Yeah...You like that don't you?

As of now there are too many things about this device that I don't like, but perhaps more importantly: Don't understand. 
Everything will become more clear in the upcoming months. Right off the bat the idea of having touch capabilities on the back of the device confuses me. Playing an intense game on-the-go can become difficult enough with out-side stimuli, now you want me to feel the back of this thing? I get the impression we will be seeing tons of funny youtube video montages, of people feeling up the back of this device in a creepy manner. It's one of those things we will understand when we finally get a-hold of the device ourselves...
 
That didn't sound right...I didn't...I...uh....with the previous sentence...err...
 

The Japan factor

Do you know what I took away from the entire show this week? That Japan might be in a bit of trouble. This part is admittedly a bit more muddled, and the amount of variables are off the charts to make a concrete statement: But my level of concern for Japanese game development, that silent barometer that resides silently within many of us, began to rise a bit with me. 
 
"A hand-held, with PS3 capabilities and graphical fidelity!!!"     
 
That sounds great right? Right? It's going to have trophies too! MMMM! Delicious trophies!  
 
 Nathan Drake's wisecracking one-liners will not be hampered by the systems small size!
 Nathan Drake's wisecracking one-liners will not be hampered by the systems small size!
Small problem: Japanese game development is strapped for cash. 
A combination of archaic development management, coupled with simply the high cost of producing these games, has hit Japan's once thriving industry hard. I'm talking in broad generalizations here, the exact make-up of what's happening in Japan is far more complex for one blog to illustrate entirely. What has happened in the last few years has been a resurgence in portable games, and of course, the Wii.
 
Looking for a new cool JRPG? It's probably on the DS, or the PSP. 
While the next few sentences are pure personal dribble: It almost feels, for me at least, that Japanese game development has become terrified of HD gaming in general. It feels like they are almost, hiding out in the portable market. Weathering the storm. I don't take that much umbrage with them, it makes sense that they're focus is just to survive. 
Also, Japanese games love Monster Hunter. Can't blame them, even if I don't understand it.

Valkyria Chronicles was probably my personal favorite game of 2008. Yet here I am two years later, not playing the sequel on the PS3, but on the PSP. This isn't an absolute example of what's happening everywhere within Japanese game development. Just pointing out a trend, a philosophy that I feel the PSP2 threatens.   
 
 In all honesty: I don't think any portable device can render the awesomeness of Snakes mustache.
 In all honesty: I don't think any portable device can render the awesomeness of Snakes mustache.

To be fair, who knows the exact quality of these games. Although if Sony is pushing this device with it's graphical fidelity as it's top billing, one has to take notice. Based on the current speculation, one can argue: If Japanese game development can't comprehend the costs of current generation games, how will they be able to make games for this device? Again, I'm talking with sweep generalizations (and speculation), but there is a pause for alarm here.   

Watching the "games" that were on display for PSP2, it felt like I was watching a cornucopia of art assets being ported over. You ported over character models from Metal Gear and Yakuza! That's awesome! 
What else do you got? Anything new? Uh...This doesn't bode well. 

The bigger news? How about Epic's Mark Rein jumping up and down like a hyper child binging on candy, because Unreal 3 runs fantastic on it?

Rein calls the NGP a "pretty huge deal" for not just Playstation fans, but gamers.


 Pictured: Epic's Mark Rein showing how big of a
 Pictured: Epic's Mark Rein showing how big of a "huge deal", this is.

How much of a deal is it? Pretty huge.
 
That obviously vague statement makes me wonder the capabilities of where this device can take us. Western portable gaming (outside of cellphones and Iphone devices.), isn't exactly very prominent. I'm not talking about the trillions that Angry Birds has made, just talking about who leads software sales on PSP and the DS. Can this be the beginning, of the rise of big budget western portable game development?
  


History

Which brings me back to the original PSP....and the glass display box.
 
The Game Gear sits alongside the GameBoy. The Gameboy was technically inferior to the Game Gear. The Nomad was literally a portable variation of the Mega Drive/Genesis, which at the time wasn't exactly a dead platform. Both were crushed by Nintendo's little portable device, that didn't get the ability to display color until 1998. A year after Sega stopped supporting the Game Gear. 
While Sega's collapse is one that someone could write volumes of books about, it does make one still pause and wonder...
 
...Does powerful hardware command the same form of dominance in the portable market? 
The PSP was hailed at the time as a portable device able to render PS2 quality games, but how exactly did that help in the long run? As an owner of both the DS and the PSP, I would be lying if I said my PSP got the most play-time. Every once in a while, a PSP game would floor me, make me upset and wonder why other developers are not trying to upstage what I'm currently playing at the time.   
 
Instead of diving head-long into praise, I find myself holding back. Contrary to another Sony press release, I feel like I've been down this road before too many times. Not only that, new-found uncertainty about what's in development now bothers me. Are we on the verge of finally bridging the gap between these different platforms? Or are we perhaps forgetting, that Angry Birds doesn't necessarily need Unreal 3 to be successful. 
Stick in what's probably going to be a very draconian closed system with how you play these games, because of the current PS3 hacking controversy...
 
Well...I wish Sony luck...I don't normally pick up consoles when they immediately launch...But at least I'm enthusiastic about the next big thing. 
 
More apprehension than excitement. :/
 

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Every time I "NGP" I automatically think it stands for Nig-Ga-Please!

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Wow, this has nothing to do with penguins. I'm claiming false advertising. Here I am, just hanging out on the penguin page hitting refresh like I always do on Wednesday nights, and I see this pop up. Son, I am disappoint.  =P 
  
I bought one of those OG Gameboys off of my friend when I was a kid. It had some nasty stuff all up on the inside of it, which I was reminded of because of your caption. That was a pretty great system. I remember playing Robocop on my cousin's Game Gear though too. I really wanted  Game Gear, but I ended up with Nintendo handelds instead. 
 
I don't understand your NGP argument since it is the next gen of the PSP, and it's not out yet. If the system launches as the NGP, then that would be completely retarded for obvious reasons, but it'll never happen. 
 
Regarding many of the points you made about the handheld market not previously showing that raw power = sales: To that I say that this is a new era. I really am hopeful that the more powerful system will actually turn out the most popular this time around. Obviously I haven't played the new PSP, but it just may have all the right tools to make it a success. I mean, really. Yes, the Game Gear was powerful, but it really wasn't any better than the Game Boy in terms of control or functionality. The NGP on the other hand is a huge step up from even the 3DS in the control department. I just see the NGP as uncharted territory. It will probably play better than any other previous handheld, and I think that could make a difference.

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@JJWeatherman said: 
 
That is not a penguin, that is Mark Rein. Jeez. :P
"I don't understand your NGP argument since it is the next gen of the PSP, and it's not out yet. If the system launches as the NGP, then that would be completely retarded for obvious reasons, but it'll never happen."
What's there to not understand? I can still call it a crap acronym. 
I state that it's still a prototype name. Natal / Xenon / and perhaps more memorable: Revolution. The likelihood of it being called "PSP2" is pretty high, although not certain. With that perception, the prototype name being pushed is perhaps even more confusing. 
"Hey, it's the NGP! That thing were probably going to be calling PSP2 in a few months!"
 
Sega liked naming it's prototypes after planets.  
NGP seems like an unimaginative name for a prototype, for a product that's probably going to have an unimaginative name. The terminology of something that's "Next Generation", is also term I'm pretty tied of. 
 
It's a nitpick, but it's a fun one to write about. :P
 
As for the future of the device: Yeah, I hope everything you write happens
Although, looking at history, and trying to use that as a guide for this uncharted territory (Which I agree it defiantly has a feeling of) fuels a lot of doubts.
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@vidiot said:
" @JJWeatherman said: 
 
That is not a penguin, that is Mark Rein. Jeez. :P    
My point exactly. I demand penguins!! You attached this to the penguin concept page, which is false advertisement!
 The terminology of something that's "Next Generation", is also term I'm pretty tied of.  "
This was the aspect I was more referring to in my 3rd mini-paragraph. Yes, it's stupid, but it's not invalid. You brought up people talking about the 360 and PS3 as next-gen even after they launched, and in that case it was invalid. But yeah, terrible code name.
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Well back when the Game Boy was still big, everything was kinda big. We've come a long way from the early days of giant cellular phones and bulky handheld gaming machines. 
 
And the NGP name won't stick, yet I think Sony might be more imaginative this time and not just call it the PSP2. Because if they did, they would've done it by now.

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@Dalai said:
" And the NGP name won't stick, yet I think Sony might be more imaginative this time and not just call it the PSP2. Because if they did, they would've done it by now. "
It definitely won't stick. I think there's hope for an interesting name considering how they named the PSP Go. Sure it's not the most interesting name in the world, but it's better than putting a 2 on the end.
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@JJWeatherman said:
" @vidiot said:
" @JJWeatherman said: 
 
That is not a penguin, that is Mark Rein. Jeez. :P    
My point exactly. I demand penguins!! You attached this to the penguin concept page, which is false advertisement!
Did you ever figure that Mark Rein is a penguin? Did you ever think that continually talking about his infliction might be insensitive to him? Perhaps even insulting? You didn't did you! Here I was, trying to keep everything on the down-low, and you have to keep bringing this up! 
 
I find that notion of false advertising insulting. I would never attach things, to things, that have nothing to do with what I'm talking about. 
Never! :P

@Dalai:
Being reminded how big those devices are also reminded me of this advertisement of this guy playing a virtual boyoutside: Suggesting the system was portable
Yeah, I'd like to see anyone just casually wander around with one of those.
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@vidiot said:
" @JJWeatherman said:
" @vidiot said:
" @JJWeatherman said: 
 
That is not a penguin, that is Mark Rein. Jeez. :P    
My point exactly. I demand penguins!! You attached this to the penguin concept page, which is false advertisement!
Did you ever figure that Mark Rein is a penguin? Did you ever think that continually talking about his infliction might be insensitive to him? Perhaps even insulting? You didn't did you! Here I was, trying to keep everything on the down-low, and you have to keep bringing this up! 
 
I find that notion of false advertising insulting. I would never attach things, to things, that have nothing to do with what I'm talking about. 
Never! :P "
OK, I apologize for the now very apparent and gross oversight.
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@JJWeatherman said:
" @Dalai said:
" And the NGP name won't stick, yet I think Sony might be more imaginative this time and not just call it the PSP2. Because if they did, they would've done it by now. "
It definitely won't stick. I think there's hope for an interesting name considering how they named the PSP Go. Sure it's not the most interesting name in the world, but it's better than putting a 2 on the end. "
PSPnext it is. :P
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That is the kind of Game Boy I have.

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Your comments on the Game Boy definitely take me back.  That thing may have been a big ugly brick, but I still remember playing the thing a wee bit too much as a kid.  Good times.    

Well, not really, they were pretty shoddy times, but nostalgia makes everything shine brighter.  

Anyway, I'm also quite interested in the PSP2 (sorry, but the words "Next Generation" bring to mind Patrick Stewart and the Borg), but, as with the 3DS,  I'll delay picking one up until the next holiday season, if I get one this year at all.  

I was initially rubbed the wrong way by your statement regarding the PSP--in the last several months, I've used mine more than I did my DS throughout all of last year--but I've reconsidered things.  Looking at my modest stack of PSP games, I'm forced to acknowledge that most of them are ports or remakes of older games--some of which were born on the GBA and DS.  Oh well.

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To be honest i thought ht gameboy color was the first. I had no idea that the gameboy existed until i was in a pawn shop and saw this giant grey block. I learned about it just from that encounter. I think i may of asked the clerk wat that was....The gameboy was foreign to me. I found out about the game gear in the same fashion. At a pawn shop and was amazed by the quality it put out. It was nothing like the gameboy. 
 
I own a ds. I got it cheap and for specific games i had heard about. i think mario and luigi:bowsers inside story, kicked off my interest. So i got one. At this time i only kept it because of okamiden. Now that i heard its not as great i have lost all interest in the ds. I think i want to switch to a psp. There are games there i want to play(Peace walker, birth by sleep and maybe the new parisite eve). 
 
How does all this relate to the 3ds and ngp?  I dont have to much interest in the portability of these devices. I just to play the games. If they put the ds games i wanted on wii and the psp games on the ps3. Even if it was just a port, i would prefer that. THE ONLY PLACE I CARE ABOUT PORTABILITY is in my laptop with a discrete graphics card. And this iphone craziness has essentially worn off for me. I find that there are no places to actually play these games. When i am walking around i am usually involved in listening to a podcast. Granted i have successfully used the ds on the bus, i dont intend on doing that anymore. 
 
Lastly, the embarassment factor. Its obvious that many play games on their phone with no worries bc it doesnt neccessarily look like a game. And even if they are found out, the devices they are using are adult enough that they wont be worried about how it looks. A ds in hand on the other hand(pun intended) does not look good. I once saw an adult walking down the street with an original gameboy advance. And when i saw him i assumed the worst about him. I assumed he was childish, not successful and etc. The same could be said about the psp but to a lesser degree(due to its more mature history). I feel this will plague the 3ds(especially) and the ngp. It may not be the biggest problem, but public perception will be huge. 

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