@mutha3 said:
@Neurotic said:
@mutha3 said:
Characters in P3 were way too melodramatic for my tastes, I guess. Your entire team consists of orphans!(even the goddamn dog!) Even with some of the missteps the P4 writers made, their down-to-earth characterizations still resonated a lot more with me than the 3rd time we heard someone's parent died in P3 :P
This. Although, to be pedantic, not all of them are orphans. Junpei has at least his dad, Mitsuru too (for a while), Yukari still has a mother and Fuuka has both of her parents, she just doesn't like them. They're still estranged from them though so it's all the same really.
Yeah, I said "orphan", but that was just a lazy shorthand for "lost at least one parent". Good point about Fuuka, though. Forgot all about her parents.
They were doctors weren't they? Her circumstances were more a result of the pressure placed upon her, much like Mitsuru (for the most part). Starting off I found Fuuka's backstory to be pretty heartbreaking, she just doesn't fit in, at all.
And man, Yosuke a bad character?! Someone hold me back! Yes he is a dick, and he does display a homophobic sentiment on more than one occasion, but that's kind of his deal. Not that I'm going to say I condone that, but he is supposed to represent the average teenager by all accounts, and on that front he is an astounding success. I mean, just how much does he have to remind everyone that going into the Bathhouse is not cool. His declarations come off as forced more than anything, its his way of dealing with the awkwardness of being confronted with such a situation. Anything regarding sexuality is all about perception, especially when you're a teenager, I would not expect him to be fully capable of dealing with that situation.
This would be unforgivable if he did not mature and progress as a character, but he does, and my opinion followed suit. Yes, he is far from likeable initially, but he grows (for the most part) out of those childish conceits by the story's end, and it felt natural.
His default personality of being an utter snarker is precisely because of his initial insecurities, and past the opening jibes before you really meet Kanji, I felt his jokes were of the light-hearted variety. I'd understand the other side of the argument if he was a bigot, but his prevailing attitude is more a consequence of his immaturity over any genuine beliefs. At least in my opinion.
The characters of P4 worked for me because they more or less began as defined Anime tropes and managed to invert those, especially when contrasted to a good chunk of the P3 cast.
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