whyareyoucrouchingspock

@MrKlorox said:

The moon image analogy is a massive failure.

I own a astromaster 114 eq. The starpointer that came with it was rubbish so I used a saw and some screws to attach a standalone one. It's a fairly common method.

In real life people tend to aware of more repercussions so they act more reserved. On the internet, specifically gamings forums, they almost automatically go into an egotistically driven negative mode on a whim. In general, I get on well with people in real life for the reasons mentioned above. On the internet people loose inhibition and give a good presentation of the inner self. 98% of the time this usually amount to petty egotistically driven versions of themselfs take. I take these factors into account when dealing with such people and usually, pitty them.

Microsoft and Sony confrences will pimarily consist of casual based motion games. A bunch of embarrising moments thanks to terrible presentations (esp Ubisoft). Basically, a huge dissapointment.

@Funkydupe said:

Are you saying ARMA 2 is a bad game that is not worth 30 bucks?

Arma 2 is probably the last tactical shooter in existence (barring probably Red Orchestra). All have been turned into lame console action shooters. Including Operation Flashpoint (the game Arma is spiritual successor to).

Counterstrike was part of Halflife and Halflife 2's successs. Likewise dota helped sell starcraft 2. It's wonderful when mods become super popular as it encurages open, moddable games.

@ColonelRick said:

You forget that many, if not most developers code with the consoles in mind, PC are mostly straight ports.

I didn't forget, I specifically mentioned this was part of the problem.

@whyareyoucrouchingspock said:

Another problem is the "pc". It is held back by consoles and visual fidelity does matter alot for this platform. Alot of developers though, thankfully are pushing boundaries regardless of consoles. Batman: Arkham City, regardless of being a console port will put even the meatiest computer to the test and looks visually far beyond it's console counterpart or any console title. This is a problem less with consoles and more to do with lazy developers and publishers.

@Dagbiker said:

I like getting Disney Movies on DVD, because they come on Blue Ray, Download, and good old DVD, for like $30. of coarse if i had a kid it would suck because i would be buying Bambi 2 for $30, but for things like Toy Story, or Mulain Its great.

One of the problems with "Blueray" I feel, with "DVD"' the image is softer. CGI tends to look better. e.g... Lord Of The Rings.

When Blueray sharpens the image up, you tend to notice the fraudulent nature far more.

Indeed, with the new "hobbit" movie people complained that the image quility was so crisp and the frame-rate so high it looked like shit.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/film-news/9225905/The-Hobbit-previews-to-mixed-reactions.html

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@digitalsea87 said:

This thread is fucking terrible.

Lucky for us that's not against the rules.

You're not alllowed to be obvious when trying to insult others but just hide it behind big words that the forum police don't understand and it's all fine :P

Please don't insult the moderators. They do a wonderful job and I doubt they require incitement from aspiring revolutionists such as yourself. If you disagree feel free to make a logical, sound argument and I may well agree or decide to argue against your personal point of view regarding the current and future state of console hardware. Frivolous off-topic nonsense is counterproductive and something you seem to do continually. My freind, we do not know each other so this need for personal attack and indeed outright incitement for others to join in the nastiness... it's just childish. Seriously man, grow up.

I never personally attacked you though, my Friend, never.
Read again, Friend

Now it has went from attempting to incite hate to attempting to bait by gleefully highlighting spelling errors. I have tried to be reasonable, perhaps it's a poor upbringing, perhaps it's just a sign of the current state of youth in modern day society. I really have no idea.Whatever the case may be, I will do the adult thing and simply ignore your trolling from now on.

@ZeForgotten said:

@digitalsea87 said:

This thread is fucking terrible.

Lucky for us that's not against the rules.

You're not alllowed to be obvious when trying to insult others but just hide it behind big words that the forum police don't understand and it's all fine :P

Please don't insult the moderators. They do a wonderful job and I doubt they require incitement from aspiring revolutionists such as yourself. If you disagree feel free to make a logical, sound argument and I may well agree or decide to argue against your personal point of view regarding the current and future state of console hardware. Frivolous off-topic nonsense is counterproductive and something you seem to do continually. My freind, we do not know each other so this need for personal attack and indeed outright incitement for others to join in the nastiness... it's just childish. Seriously man, grow up.

Yesterday, and the day before that I was playing L.A. Noire. This game is better played with a control pad, so I changed over to that from my trusty mouse and keyboard, lay in bed and played it from there rather than my very expensive (leather) computer chair.

The men from Epic, in particular the little short man who makes dude bro games has been complaining and demanding powerful hardware.

http://www.examiner.com/article/epic-games-next-gen-console-specs-are-not-powerful-enough

This is what I noticed with L.A Noire along with many other titles. While sitting on my computer chair close to the screen (around 1-2 feet) I easily notice visual flaws such as low quality textures, lack of AA, pixelated resolution, low quality shadows and other problems. L.A Noire is a blur fest with tons of pop in and wavy pixelated lined as things move in from a distance. However, playing it from my bed, the game looks quite good. The textures quality issue, AA, shadow quality and 30fps cap issues are practically non existent. It's the same with Assassins Creed 2. Up close, very poor texture quality. Sitting with my control pad several feet away, not an issue.

I feel. Consoles do not need a large graphical upgrade. I think Microsoft and Sony will see this and come to comprehend a thing called "perspective".

When we are closer to something, it becomes bigger, it's details more prominant.

When you sit several feet back, as practically every console owner does, the minuet details become less important.

This is called "being very close" and "being far away".

It's very much the same with paintings. In a museum you stand 5-6 feet away to view the picture as a whole rather than up close to see individual brush stokes. Excessive hardware boost would mainly serve to provide mostly irrelevant visual fidelity, up the hardware cost and cost the consumer. Blueray a good example of this. When we made the leap from VHS to DVD, the change in visual quality was huge. It was a revolution. The leap from DVD to Blueray is mostly hype with an incremental difference. Alot of people (myself included) simply purchase DVD's because A) They are cheaper and B) The visual difference isn't leaps and bounds.

More powerful hardware could provide advantages in scale though. A game like Shogun 2 currently cannot operate on consoles. They are far too weak. Likewise more powerful hardware could provide more intricate interaction the likes of which we see in PhysX.

Another problem is the "pc". It is held back by consoles and visual fidelity does matter alot for this platform. Alot of developers though, thankfully are pushing boundaries regardless of consoles. Batman: Arkham City, regardless of being a console port will put even the meatiest computer to the test and looks visually far beyond it's console counterpart or any console title. This is a problem less with consoles and more to do with lazy developers and publishers.

Overall I feel this Cliffy B person and many other developers are being self-serving. When you launch a new console, it acts almost as a reboot button. The consumer is very sheep like. Old and new IP's can be hyped to high heaven. Mediocre to average developers such as Ubisoft hanker for it. Not because of limitations like they claim but as I said above, to create a new hype machine. a wizard behind the curtain, throwing a towel over a budgy cage. Likewise with Cliffy B, just wants to make money at the expense of the consumer. This is partly because he's a huge tit with a stupid looking earing.