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"Countries" - Why they do not exist, and why they shouldn't.

The human species is a dumb one. Tragically incredibly daft and stubborn for the limits it creates, which then has to be broken down and rebuilt.

What is a Country? A country is a border surrounding a landmass, showing "this place is" x, where x is the name of the country.

Let's say that an alien landed on Earth and wished to visit a country. Wherever he went, he wouldn't be welcomed in. Why?

A country has "borders", whether you're born within these borders determines whether you're welcomed to live there or not. This is outright stupidity.

Now, why is it stupid? Because in reality, there are no set countries, just landmasses where people have decided "this place belongs to us, and within these borders, our laws are to be obeyed". When it comes down to it, there are no borders or countries, they are man-made imaginary lines for which people of different ""country-origin may live in. Sweden for Swedes, Poland for the Polish, and America for ........ Americans in the world. It sounds like it makes sense, but it doesn't.

Let's say that Japan sank, and the Japanese had no country. Where would they go? Well, to other countries. Would they be welcomed? In some places maybe, but countries have "limits to how much". If no country had a "border", and each "country" helped oneanother instead of fighting eachother for SHIT reasons, we'd first of all have a more peaceful world because there would be no "borders" to expand upon. And second, people who had no place to go in situations of war or disasters would have options instead of facing rejection which may lead to their DEATH upon arrival home.

If I go to Denmark, I am only allowed to stay there for 30 days. Why? Because I am born within the Swedish "borders". Now let's say that Sweden bombed the FUCK out of Denmark and took it over, as such expanding the borders to include "Denmark", I am now, all of a sudden, allowed to be there as long as I want.

Funny, isn't it? No. Not fun at all. People should be able to think this through. "Leaders" of the world should've realized this by now.

If I could decide, the entire world would be under one set of rules, that rule would be to respect each and everyone equally and to let all people have equal rights to everything, no matter what belief or sexuality or gender.

Borders creates limits, bad ones at that. I see not one single positive thing with borders at all with the exception that it clearly points out where each country are on a map. Other than that, totally useless, and i'd go ahead and call this as much as insane.

A personal spit in the face to each country's founding father/mother.

And now, a quote from the movie 300, with a change. "THIS IS TERRA!"

..."Borders" and "immigration laws".. Fucking idiots. -.-"

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@Yagami said:

@Commisar123: This has nearly nothing to do with history. More geography.

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I think if everyone got a free cupcake on every first monday of the month the world would be a much better place. Also each family should also receive a free unicorn.

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@Dagbiker: Yup, and that is how it really should be. But humans are stupid, so we need laws.

@Dany: Which is how it should be. People shouldn't reject, they should focus on helping. - As for language, cultures and so on, that isn't necessarily separated within a border. Look at France and Canada for example. I think the way to go is to have a Universal languages like English in order for people to understand eachother no matter where you go.

@Commisar123: This has nearly nothing to do with history. More geography.

@UltorOscariot: I'd probably prefer that, yes. This is mainly because if that government fucks up, they also fuck it up for themselves as they are a part of what they are working for. However having NO government I think would be the best, and just let the people do everything on their own.

@Daneian: "We are the Borg, prepare to be assimilated, resistance is futile." - If mankind wants to move forward, it first needs to co-op with itself.

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@Yagami said:

If I could decide, the entire world would be under one set of rules, that rule would be to respect each and everyone equally

Nope.

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@Commisar123 said:

I'm a history major, and that shit is fucked up

Nation states are generally a bad idea

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So you're saying that if I decided to visit Earth, I wouldn't be welcome because humans are dickheads?

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@Dagbiker said:

If every one could live under the very vague rule of "respect each other" then we wouldnt need laws.

What about scenarios that require arbitration, such as when two people have an equal claim to a resource or when somebody has accidentally wronged another? Don't we need well-defined rules for dealing with those types of situations?

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Each region has an arbitrary border that distinguishes and separates them based on ideological views of tradition, custom and politics. It has always been this way. Sweden isn't for swedes, Poland isn't for polish. Moving to another country is not a hassle, nor is visiting one.. Haiti had a huge natural disaster and I didn't hear about other countries rejecting those wishing to leave the unstable area.

A single country ideal under a single banner is never going to happen. Each region/country/collective of countries have a deadset view of the world that one won't let the other 'take over'.

I don't know about you but I do not wish to be in the same union of law with North Korea.

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How are you gonna tell all the other countries to merge under one government? You going to force them to? Then that means not everyone can live the way they want.

You gonna fight every country until you beat them into accepting one government and one political philosophy? Gonna kill every dictator until no one else is going to oppress its citizens?

Pretty sure most people want what you're talking about. The problem is executing a plan to unify everyone.

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If every one could live under the very vague rule of "respect each other" then we wouldnt need laws.

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I think about things for more than 5 minutes, uninhibited by drugs, and that's fucked up. One world government? Really? Because nothing bad ever happens when power and money consolidate...

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On the one hand yes, on the other hand no. I would respond in more detail, but I'm busy writing a paper about injustices generated by global economics.

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I'm a history major, and that shit is fucked up, and that's all I'm going to say about this I withdraw from this stupid debate

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The human species is a dumb one. Tragically incredibly daft and stubborn for the limits it creates, which then has to be broken down and rebuilt.

What is a Country? A country is a border surrounding a landmass, showing "this place is" x, where x is the name of the country.

Let's say that an alien landed on Earth and wished to visit a country. Wherever he went, he wouldn't be welcomed in. Why?

A country has "borders", whether you're born within these borders determines whether you're welcomed to live there or not. This is outright stupidity.

Now, why is it stupid? Because in reality, there are no set countries, just landmasses where people have decided "this place belongs to us, and within these borders, our laws are to be obeyed". When it comes down to it, there are no borders or countries, they are man-made imaginary lines for which people of different ""country-origin may live in. Sweden for Swedes, Poland for the Polish, and America for ........ Americans in the world. It sounds like it makes sense, but it doesn't.

Let's say that Japan sank, and the Japanese had no country. Where would they go? Well, to other countries. Would they be welcomed? In some places maybe, but countries have "limits to how much". If no country had a "border", and each "country" helped oneanother instead of fighting eachother for SHIT reasons, we'd first of all have a more peaceful world because there would be no "borders" to expand upon. And second, people who had no place to go in situations of war or disasters would have options instead of facing rejection which may lead to their DEATH upon arrival home.

If I go to Denmark, I am only allowed to stay there for 30 days. Why? Because I am born within the Swedish "borders". Now let's say that Sweden bombed the FUCK out of Denmark and took it over, as such expanding the borders to include "Denmark", I am now, all of a sudden, allowed to be there as long as I want.

Funny, isn't it? No. Not fun at all. People should be able to think this through. "Leaders" of the world should've realized this by now.

If I could decide, the entire world would be under one set of rules, that rule would be to respect each and everyone equally and to let all people have equal rights to everything, no matter what belief or sexuality or gender.

Borders creates limits, bad ones at that. I see not one single positive thing with borders at all with the exception that it clearly points out where each country are on a map. Other than that, totally useless, and i'd go ahead and call this as much as insane.

A personal spit in the face to each country's founding father/mother.

And now, a quote from the movie 300, with a change. "THIS IS TERRA!"

..."Borders" and "immigration laws".. Fucking idiots. -.-"

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