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    Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4

    Game » consists of 5 releases. Released Jul 10, 2008

    Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4 is a role-playing game developed and published by Atlus for the PlayStation 2. It is chronologically the fifth installment in the Shin Megami Tensei: Persona series. Like its predecessor, its gameplay combines a traditional role-playing game with elements of a social simulation. Its critical and commercial success spawned a sizable media empire, including several spinoff titles.

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    #1  Edited By bulletstorm

    I question; what exactly Margaret is.  
     
    At first I believed she must be a shadow because she had glowing yellow eyes but, upon Igor's words regarding shadow's having no place in the Velvet Room that little theory was broken.  
     
    Besides the vague description of a "Servant of the Velvet Room" I do not know what Margaret is and the Megami Tensei Wiki only has a short few paragraphs on her. Due to this I am discouraged that there really isn't an answer, but before I give up; why not ask the largest P4 community? 

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    #2  Edited By Vect

    I think they just say that she's an "Inhabitant of the Velvet Room", which means she's just a supernatural entity of some sorts. They don't say exactly WHAT beings like her, her sister Elizabeth or Igor are.

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    #3  Edited By pause422

    Thats something that will probably never be answered...its just, how it is for Persona games.

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    #4  Edited By Epididymis

    This is just my theory, but following the games Jungian psychology motif, I think Margaret is the anima (feminine persona) of the main character.  This would be why Igor has a different assistant in Persona 3:  His different guest would have a different anima (in his case, Elizabeth.)
    I also heard speculation that Margaret and Elizabeth might be the "ideal women" of their respective hosts.  This also ties in with the theory of the anima.
     
    As for what Igor, I believe he is a universal archetype that exists in everyone's subconscious.  The Velvet Room is then a level of consciousness that only certain people can reach.

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    #5  Edited By Metroid545

    she is hot, thats what

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    #6  Edited By metalsnakezero
    @Epididymis said:

    " This is just my theory, but following the games Jungian psychology motif, I think Margaret is the anima (feminine persona) of the main character.  This would be why Igor has a different assistant in Persona 3:  His different guest would have a different anima (in his case, Elizabeth.) I also heard speculation that Margaret and Elizabeth might be the "ideal women" of their respective hosts.  This also ties in with the theory of the anima.  As for what Igor, I believe he is a universal archetype that exists in everyone's subconscious.  The Velvet Room is then a level of consciousness that only certain people can reach. "

    That would make sense in a lot of ways like how in P3P if you choose to be a female character the assistant will be a man.
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    #7  Edited By Ineedaname

    She's a gold digger.

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    #8  Edited By chogi

    she's a bitch

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    #9  Edited By Hailinel

    It's not really clear where Margaret came from, but as you complete her Social Link, you eventually learn that she is the sister of Elizabeth, Igor's previous assistant in Persona 3.  Elizabeth left sometime between P3 and P4 for reasons that I can't explain as doing so would give away spoilers for the end of The Answer in Persona 3 FES.  Margaret stepped into her sister's role in part to find out what it was that that made Elizabeth feel the need to leave.

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    #10  Edited By Gary_Armstrong
    @Ineedaname said:
    " She's a gold digger. "
    @chogi said:
    " she's a bitch "
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    #11  Edited By FluxWaveZ
    @Epididymis said:
    "This is just my theory, but following the games Jungian psychology motif, I think Margaret is the anima (feminine persona) of the main character.  This would be why Igor has a different assistant in Persona 3:  His different guest would have a different anima (in his case, Elizabeth.) I also heard speculation that Margaret and Elizabeth might be the "ideal women" of their respective hosts.  This also ties in with the theory of the anima.  As for what Igor, I believe he is a universal archetype that exists in everyone's subconscious.  The Velvet Room is then a level of consciousness that only certain people can reach. "

    This.  This is what it basically comes down to, and it is proven more by the fact when Metis says in The Answer in Persona 3 that the Velvet Room is where she belongs. 
      

    Potential Persona 3 Spoilers 
     
       
    Because she's a part of Aigis.
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    #13  Edited By FluxWaveZ
    @SmashedControllers said:
    "Every Resident of the Velvet Room is a Servant of Philemon, even Igor. "

    Yes, but does that explain who they are?  No, it doesn't.
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    @FluxWaveZ said:
    " @SmashedControllers said:
    "Every Resident of the Velvet Room is a Servant of Philemon, even Igor. "
    Yes, but does that explain who they are?  No, it doesn't. "
    They're Servants.
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    #15  Edited By Hailinel
    @SmashedControllers said:
    " @FluxWaveZ said:
    " @SmashedControllers said:
    "Every Resident of the Velvet Room is a Servant of Philemon, even Igor. "
    Yes, but does that explain who they are?  No, it doesn't. "
    They're Servants. "
    That is their role, not who they are.
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    #16  Edited By FluxWaveZ
    @SmashedControllers said:

    " @FluxWaveZ said:

    " @SmashedControllers said:
    "Every Resident of the Velvet Room is a Servant of Philemon, even Igor. "
    Yes, but does that explain who they are?  No, it doesn't. "
    They're Servants. "
    The op was asking about their living state.  If they're humans or whatnot.  Saying they're servants doesn't answer anything.  Does saying someone's a slave mean they're no longer human?  No, that's incorrect.
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    #17  Edited By eirikr
    @FluxWaveZ said:
    Potential Persona 3 Spoilers 
     
       Because she's a part of Aigis. "
    What
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    #18  Edited By FluxWaveZ
    @Eirikr said:

    " @FluxWaveZ said:

    Potential Persona 3 Spoilers 
     
       Because she's a part of Aigis. "

    What "
     Did you finish The Answer? 
     

    PERSONA 3 SPOILERS 

     
     
    That's what Metis is; the repressed emotions of Aigis given form.  After the death of the mc, Aigis basically ignored her human personality that she had begun to develop during the end of The Journey (along with her non-robotic voice) and Metis is what came of it.  I guess I could try to search for the video...
     
    Edit: Found it.  Metis is basically the same concept of the shadows inside the characters in Persona 4 being manifested.  Hearing this though, I've once again remembered how I hated Igor's and Fuuka's voice change in The Answer.  That's just messed up.
     
     
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    @FluxWaveZ said:
    " @SmashedControllers said:

    " @FluxWaveZ said:

    " @SmashedControllers said:
    "Every Resident of the Velvet Room is a Servant of Philemon, even Igor. "
    Yes, but does that explain who they are?  No, it doesn't. "
    They're Servants. "
    The op was asking about their living state.  If they're humans or whatnot.  Saying they're servants doesn't answer anything.  Does saying someone's a slave mean they're no longer human?  No, that's incorrect. "
    My bad, I miss understood.

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