Giant Bombcast Giant Bomb Game of the Year 2013: Day Two

Yeah, I don't know about Lamar winning Best Character. He was great and really liked him but best character? Most of the staff weren't even on the same page about the decision.

I am a person very worried about spoilers and I have played exactly 0 of the games featured in the best story category. For anyone out there like me, skip to 45 minutes into the podcast.

@dynamitekyle: @chilibean_3: Bf4 has been patched many, maaaany times. And it still has problems. I should know, I've spent 200 hours playing it. As of the recent patch it's mostly stable but it has been a very long period of problem after problem.

Mr. Drippy!

I actually agree with Vinny. It seems like they only think of the best film stories and the mediocre game stories. For every great story in film I've seen, I've seen 100 that are mediocre or bad. Some films like action movies don't focus on story and that's fine. But that goes for a lot of games too. The games that go after story totally are up there with the best movies for me.

Might be my taste in movies though. I don't like the artsy stuff. Maybe I generally just like movies with shit stories by default.

Same question as yesterday: Any heavy "The Last of us" spoilers in here?

Thanks for the warning. Now if it isn't too much, can you tell me which part of the podcast I have to avoid? It has not to be accurate on the second, but I just started playing it yesterday and still want to hear the rest of the podcast.

@hassun: Yeah, BF4 is hella broken. Did it read like I was saying something different?

The Best story part looped over 2 times seemlessly for me and I was super confused since I thought they were talking and repeating themselves about it for an hour and a half.

Who expected a suicide? I don't get that whatsoever, Bradley and like. Plus, if we're gonna say video game stories can happen in nothing else other than video games, then why not Stanley's Parable? Even if it's just an experiment on plot, the point is that game does some incredible, inventive stuff with how it conveys its message. It can only be in a video game, and it's such an evolution of the medium. No knock on at least Infinite, there's a great reason why it should be nominated and everything, but crossing out Stanley's Parable so easily over it is so dang criminal to me. Unsettling is how I find it all, especially with so much reasoning for Bioshock being nominated for its creativity in the music category, but I guess it's just how these awards shows do.

I have never disagreed harder with the circlejerk that is: Bioshock infinite, the landscapes were beautiful and I really liked the soundtrack, but other than that, the gunplay was shallow, I didn't enjoy the deus ex machina, spoilers, the quantum theory suddenly making it's way into it, as a way to suddenly explain everything. I believe it is a solid game with an enjoyable narrative, but, I believe, the Lutece twins were the weakest character(s) in the game compared to Elizabeth, Booker and Comstock, who aren't even nominees in this podcast

So because there are a bunch of people that enjoyed that game (including me and including the gunplay) it's a circlejerk? ... Maybe you value your own opinion a little too much :)

@2headedninja: What I'm saying is that this game is receiving much more praise than it deserves because there are many flaws in it.

I guess they just forget about Far Cry 3: Blood Dragon until it was time to design the GOTY theme?

Does Lamar actually become likeable later on in the game or is everyone just fond of scumbags.

@turambar: He is the greatest scumbag of all time.

as I said ... you value your opinion too much. I think the game deserves every bit of praise it gets. To me it was a fun to play game with great characters, a great story and a good ending (even though it was a little hard to understand for me).

I don't mean to be agressive in any way btw. It's just that I think a lot of people speak in absolutes about games too often. If you didn't like the game thats fine, no game is for everyone ... but at least say "To me the game gets more praise than it deserves", don't paint with broad strokes ... because obviously the game was a good one to many people.

As I said, I don't mean to offend.

@2headedninja: That's my problem, everyone speaks in absolutes about Infinite! You said it yourself, "I think the game deserves every bit of praise it gets." Also, I value my opinion because it's my own, I never said it was the correct view and everyone should think that way.

Saints Row IV soundtrack playlist GO! http://open.spotify.com/user/darkfury/playlist/6gXfrcoC66awVnCFFA5qie

@washablemarkers: Ah thanks!

I'm not even 10 minutes into the recording and it's amaaaazingly entertaining and interesting and there are strong points. It's just plain explosive.

@turambar: Scumbag + Apache blood = greatest

I haven't heard all of the music for the nominees, but one I loved the "evening" music in Animal Crossing. Wonderfully melancholy.

That rant on Sim City is pure gold. Its exactly the sort of rage I feel about that game. Its easily the greatest disappointment since Spore, probably more

I want to skip the story section because spoilers, where to I ahve to skip in the recording?

You will notice that I said "I think the game ..." ... while you said "What I'm saying is that this game is receiving much more praise than it deserves because there are many flaws in it." ... maybe it's because english is not my native language, but your comment reads to me like it's a fact, not an opinion. "The game is not as good as people say, hence everyone that liked it is wrong." ... Usually a game that gets as much praise as BS:I has a chance of being a good experience to most people.

There is always a chance someone (you being proof) doesn't like it, but that doesn't make it a bad game or everyone that liked it is wrong. The praise you are talking about can only be reviews, which are subjective by nature and the opinions of gamers which are also subjective.

I don't want to lessen your opinion, I'm just trying to say (with my limited options, as I said: english is not my native language) that it really bugs me how many people dismiss the opinions of others purely because they don't like a thing :) ... In the end we proabably have to agree to disagree :)

@boomhauer: There's a huge backlash against Infinite on gaming forums, and it doesn't seem to be THAT prominent on the top 10 of gaming sites (some exceptions, of course). I generally think people are being too nitpicky about the game now, not praising it more than it deserves. The GB guys really like the game of course, but I think they're being fair when discussing its flaws etc. on the podcast (the game isn't even in my top 10 of the year, but that's mainly because I hated the gameplay - I really liked the music, how it looked, some of the characters).

Surprised and delighted to see Brad show some restraint with regards to spoilers of DR3. Still listening to the cast, but I wanted to call that out. That was unexpected, and I was glad to hear it.

Best Music is Assassins Creed IV, sorry any game that has the players learning or discovering music they would normally ignore is doing it RIGHT. Nobody a year ago was listening to sea shanties, now most players are whisper "Drunken Sailor", "Roll and Go" and "'Way Me Susiana".

I think I disagree with almost everything in this GOTY awards so far. Not surprising. I don't care much for indie games, I hate Bioshock, I can't stand GTA, and I thought that The Last of Us had great presentation but HORRIBLY paced gameplay, just like Uncharted before it. Honestly, stuff that I would probably root for with end of year stuff is Beyond, Saints Row IV, DmC, Metal Gear Rising, and various other random things.

@tr0n: It's heartbreaking that Ni No Kuni wasn't even mentioned for best sound track.

Bioshock Infinite is Inception of videogames!

Can't believe in the discussion of BioShock Infinite's music no one mentioned Goodnight Irene and only briefly mentioned Will The Circle Be Unbroken. I'd call Circle the motif song of the game.

Jeff's righteous indignation over SimCity was glorious.

Pretty good discussion so far, and yeah Sim City was really bad, cant believe I got that day one.

They should have Best Ending and Best Storytelling awards instead of best story next year.

I don't think I'll listen to this just yet, gotta finish Last of Us first since that's going to come up no doubt.

Mostly I'm sad that Revengeance didn't even get mentioned for music. That game's music is amazing for almost every possible reason why a game's soundtrack can be good.

@wastrel said:

Came here to say this. There's nothing chiptune about Risk of Rain's soundtrack. Also it's fantastic.

I'm sorta bummed KI didn't get at least a serious mention on the music category. Not top 3 I could understand, but seems like it should have at least made the long list (only mention I heard was in brief passing talking about dynamic music, but even the raw music was awesome).

ANOTHER bad Maxis game. So many bad Maxis games in the past several years.

Everyone's getting pissed, I LOVE IT.

Gotta say, my only disappointment with these talks so far is how little love Bioshock is getting. Makes me wonder if their issues with story lies with bad implementation of science, or a lack of knowledge by the crew on the subject. Personally my only problem with the story was Fitzroy's sudden shift in personality(as mentioned by the crew).

Never forget...

Lamar...really? I rather have Mr. Drippy or even Trevor, he might be a psychopath but he's way more funny.

Dude! Major spoilers!

Drew is the real monster!!

Disappointed that they didn't mention Metal Gear Rising: Revengance or Rayman Legends for best music..

Patrick makes an argument, then when someone calls him out.... he totally reverses his opinion and forgets his original outburst.

He also half finishes sentences... like when he tries to say something too complicated for his little brain to comprehend... so he just goes onto saying a completely different point.,

Jeez, you'd think one of these years EA would manage to evade the most disappointing game category.

For certain; Jeff's anger is genuine.

Uh, they mention that they're going to spoil everything from the very first second they start recording, just like they do every year. If Brad had fought for DR3, I would've been super pissed that he didn't reveal it. I'm kinda pissed I'd have to go Google it. Same thing happened a few years ago when the Crew pulled aside to spoil that Silent Hill game. They should've just said it.

SPOILERS AWAY!

@boomhauer: The most circlejerky thing going on about Bioshock Infinite is the "THIS GAME ISN'T THAT GREAT WAKE UP SHEEPLE!!!" zeitgeist. Most people who likes the game (except few people who hyped it up so much like IGN, Adam Sessler) never consider it ~~the most thought provoking video game~~, they like the game because it's fun. The visual is astounding, they give you great moments. It's a great blockbuster movie like Jeff said. Sure, the story is dumb when you think about it, but who cares? That's just most video games.